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Sean Patchett and Erin Alladin
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  • Ep. 19 Moths and Butterflies with Stoned Affection
    Susie of Stoned Affection is a practicing entomologist who has been raising moths and butterflies—and raising awareness of them—since 2014. She also creates beautiful art from lepidoptera taxidermy. This week Susie joins Sean to talk about what it’s like to work with moths and butterflies, especially the ethical considerations that go into sourcing and raising both native and tropical species. If you’ve ever wondered about butterfly farming, butterfly houses, and sending live specimens through the mail, this is the episode to satisfy your curiosity. You’ll also find out what Susie thinks of lepidoptera in media, whether butterflies make good pollinators, and what the differences are between butterflies and moths. To learn more about Susie, her art, and her outreach, visit her website at www.stonedaffection.com, or catch a Twitch live stream at https://www.twitch.tv/stonedaffection.You can also find Susie on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stonedaffection Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stonedaffection/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stonedaffection Comments? Feedback? Want your garden question to be featured in a future Q&A segment? Email us, reach out over social media, or get Q&A priority by supporting us on Patreon. Bluesky: @plantsalwayswin.com TikTok: @plantsalwayswinpodcast YouTube: @plantsalwayswinpodcastWebsite: www.plantsalwayswin.com CreditsWebsite Design and Illustration by Sophia AlladinIntro and Outro Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/when-my-ukulele-playsLicense code: GWOIMMBAS15FG6PHTimestamps00:46 Introducing Susie of Stoned Affection|03:21 Name Origins: Plants Always Win05:00 Ordering Insects by Post07:45 The Difference Between Moths and Butterflies11:40 The Family Lepidoptera 12:50 Butterflies are Surprisingly Nasty, Little Creatures14:23 Moths That Can't Eat16:12 Are Butterflies Good Pollinators?17:35 Making Silk from Silk Moths19:25 What do Moths Get Up to at Night?22:30 Ethically Sourcing Tropical and Local Insects27:00 Farmed Tropical Insects28:00 Butterfly Houses: Good or Bad?30:50 Susie's Favourite Squeaking Moth Species33:10 Susie's Favourite Butterfly35:19 What Happens when a Butterfly Pupates?40:28 Lepidoptera in Movies and TV Shows43:20 Susie's Public Outreach Work47:14 Sean's Relationship with Insects50:40 Jumping Spiders as Pets54:52 Earthworms in North America58:45 Susie's Plugs1:04:15 Susie's Word of Wisdom1:04:30 Conclusion and Contact Us
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  • Ep. 18 Seed Starting vs. Direct Sowing
    As a changeable April wears on, spring-hungry northern gardeners are anxious to get seeds planted. But should they start those seeds indoors with grow lights or on a widow sill? Or can they put them directly in the ground outside (if the snow ever melts!)? That’s the subject of this versus episode.Normally, Erin and Sean compete to see who can make their versus topic more interesting. This week, it’s more of a collaboration. Erin gives us the rundown on materials needed for direct sowing (not much but a rake and a gentle watering head are your friends) and Sean does the same for seed starting, covering grow lights, types of soil and soilless media, fans, and more. They compare the pros and cons of each method, which plants have a preference for one or the other, and what gardeners need to know about timing, growing season, and microclimates. They also shine a light on common seed-starting mistakes and explain how hardening off works. As always, accessibility and flexibility are Erin and Sean’s watchwords; as they say, failure is a common part of gardening and anything is worth an experiment. By the end of the episode, you’ll have your own ideas germinating about how to make the most of your gardening season .Comments? Feedback? Want your garden question to be featured in a future Q&A segment? Email us, reach out over social media, or get Q&A priority by supporting us on Patreon. Bluesky: @plantsalwayswin.com TikTok: @plantsalwayswinpodcast YouTube: @plantsalwayswinpodcastWebsite: www.plantsalwayswin.com CreditsWebsite Design and Illustration by Sophia AlladinIntro and Outro Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/when-my-ukulele-playsLicense code: GWOIMMBAS15FG6PHTimestamps00:12 Introduction 00:44 What's Growing On: Erin's Seed Snails02:50 What's Growing On: Sean's late-season winter sowing05:17 The Plant Face-Off, Sort Of05:32 Water Break05:38 Definitions: Direct Sowing06:16 Definitions: Seed Starting07:05 When do I Direct Sow my Seeds?12:35 Winter Sowing: a Hybrid13:20 When do I Start Seeds Indoors?18:46 Materials for Direct Sowing21:33 Materials for Seed Starting22:49 Soilless Media24:02 "With Mycorrhizae" Advertising 31:04 Which Plants To Start Indoors or Out?37:10 Containers and Up-Potting37:43 Hardening Off and Transplant Shock42:45 Pros of Starting Seeds Indoors45:05 Pros of Direct Sowing Outdoors48:14 Sean's Biggest Problem: Managing Moisture49:22 Erin's Biggest Problem: Labels53:06 Outro
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  • Ep. 17 Plants Need Bugs
    Plants always win…and to manage it, they need insects, arachnids, and other creepy-crawlies on their side. Of course, those creatures need plants too. In this episode, Sean and Erin are joined by Kelly and Amanda of Bugs Need Heroes. And what happens when you cross-pollinate a gardening podcast with one where an entomologist and an illustrator create bug-based superheroes? There’s a lot of laughter, a heaping scoop of science, and the birth of a new squad of garden defenders.Insects and their compatriots come armed with some pretty impressive real-world superpowers that savvy gardeners can use to their advantage. This week’s discussion delves into the incredible diversity of insect species, the role biting insects play in pollination, the importance of leveraging friendly neighbourhood garden expertise for advice that suits your location, and the villainy of spraying for mosquitoes. Then there’s the highlight of the episode: superhero personas based on the denizens of the garden, including bumblebees, wolf spiders, and…well, you’ll have to listen to find out.Want more of Kelly and Amanda? Visit the Bugs Need Heroes website at https://www.bugsneedheroes.com/ or find their Reddit at https://www.reddit.com/r/BugsNeedHeroes/. Fact Check:The year of the last recorded death by black widow venom in the United States is stated on many websites as 1983. Wikipedia offers a link to the Clinical Toxicology paper this fact apparently comes from, although the link is broken. If you have questions of your own or if you want to weigh in on these topics (we love learning new things through respectful discussion!), email us or reach out over social media.Bluesky: @plantsalwayswin.com TikTok: @plantsalwayswinpodcast YouTube: @plantsalwayswinpodcastWebsite: www.plantsalwayswin.com Remember that you can get Q&A priority and other perks by supporting us on Patreon. CreditsWebsite Design and Illustration by Sophia AlladinIntro and Outro Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/when-my-ukulele-playsLicense code: GWOIMMBAS15FG6PHCitationBumblebee Proboscises by RustyBurlew, R. (2024, July 8). Hey bee, stick out your tongue and say “Ahh.” Honey Bee Suite. https://www.honeybeesuite.com/hey-bee-stick-out-your-tongue-and-say-ahh/Timestamps00:00 Introducing Bugs Need Heroes!02:40 Bugs are everywhere03:22 How Many Wolf Spiders? We Don't Know. 04:45 Plants vs. Insects: How they Make New Ones07:40 Amanda's Real Superhero Background09:20 Kelly's Real Bug Background10:53 Mosquitoes are Essential, Actually (Stop Spraying!)17:43 Context! Nuance! Location Matters.21:26 The One Species Kelly would Remove from Earth22:30 Yes, Sean has Mites in his Eyebrows (So Do You)23:40 Insect Superheroes24:56 Erin's Insect Hero: Just a Happy Lil Bumblebee30:45 Kelly's Insect Hero: Wolf Spider32:46 Black Widow Bites37:16 Maman the Spider Sculpture in Ottawa40:03 The Hunter Hunter Phagogenesis Tangent42:15 Amanda's Luck-Powered Hero Insect47:50: Sean's Serviceberry Hero51:18 Is Superman a Plant?57:33 Snail Teeth are Stronger than Diamonds58:50 Our Hero Costumes1:01:16 Shout-Outs1:02:30 Outro and Contact Us
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  • Ep. 16 Q&A Special: Cedars, Compost, and Cardboard Mulch
    We’re cultivating a safe space to ask gardening questions!We have been plotting for some thyme to add some dedicated Q&A episodes to the recording schedule. While we love seeding quick questions into the end of a show, and while many of our most popular episodes have sprouted from a particularly juicy inquiry, there are plenty of other questions that merit ten minutes of discussion rather than sixty or two. In this inaugural Q&A special, we tackle a bushel of cedar and shrub questions and spend some time in the vegetable garden as well:Do you need to mitigate any environmental impacts when removing cedars near your home?Are the rumours true? Is using cardboard mulch in your veggie garden unsafe?Why do some people call Rose of Sharon a “dirty” tree?When an old cedar hedge develops gaps, how can they be filled?Can you shorten an established cedar hedge that’s giving too much shade?What’s the best soil-to-compost ratio to help a struggling vegetable garden?If you have questions of your own or if you want to weigh in on these topics (we love learning new things through respectful discussion!), email us or reach out over social media.Bluesky: @plantsalwayswin.com TikTok: @plantsalwayswinpodcast YouTube: @plantsalwayswinpodcastWebsite: www.plantsalwayswin.com Remember that you can get Q&A priority and other perks by supporting us on Patreon. CreditsWebsite Design and Illustration by Sophia AlladinIntro and Outro Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/when-my-ukulele-playsLicense code: GWOIMMBAS15FG6PHCitationsUnderstanding PFASOur current understanding of the human health and environmental risks of PFAS | US EPA. (2024, November 26). US EPA. https://www.epa.gov/pfas/our-current-understanding-human-health-and-environmental-risks-pfasFigure out if your cardboard mulch has (significant amounts of) PFASOlson, T., & Olson, T. (2024, May 23). Is cardboard mulch toxic? – Mother Earth News. Mother Earth News – the Original Guide to Living Wisely. https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/gardening-techniques/is-cardboard-mulch-toxic-zm0z24jjzols/Debunking the anti-cardboard crusadeHoag, M. (2024, April 2). Addressing the 2024 cardboard Sheet-Mulching myth madness. Transformative Adventures. https://transformativeadventures.org/2024/04/01/debunking-the-2024-cardboard-sheet-mulching-myth-madness/ Timestamps00:11 Introduction00:53 What's Growing On? Erin's False Spring04:36 What's Growing On? Sean's Pupdate and Seedling Roulette17:10 Water Break17:26 Removing Cedars Near a House: Environmental Impacts?12:35 Is Cardboard Mulch Really Unsafe?24:48 What Gives Rose of Sharon a "Dirty Tree" Reputation?31:18 How Can You Fill in Gaps in a Sparse, Old Cedar Hedge?37:10 Can You Shorten an Established Cedar Hedge?48:55 What's the Best Soil-to-Compost Ratio for Veggie Gardens?57:37 Invitation to Conversation58:39 Conclusion and Contact Us
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  • Ep. 15 Lost Ladies of Garden Writing with Carol Michel
    Carol Michel is a garden author and co-host of The Gardenangelists podcast. She boasts of having the world’s largest hoe collection…which is overshadowed only by her library-worthy collection of gardening books. Among the hundreds of volumes on her shelves are hard-to-find copies of books by a number of American women who were horticultural experts of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, but who have been all but forgotten by history. To honour them, Carol started a Substack called the Lost Ladies of Garden Writing. On this week’s episode of Plants Always Win, she invites us into some of their stories. Publishing styles and garden trends change over time, but some things stay the same. People want to know how to make their poinsettia re-bloom, how to get rid of pests, how to find the hottest new cultivar. Carol uses genealogical records, newspaper archives, and Google Books to piece together the lives of the women who were answering those questions in decades past, then shares them with her subscribers. It’s a project of passion and dedication, and it has given her some extraordinary stories to tell!Lost Ladies featured in this episode include:Cynthia Westcott, who saved the Azaleas of the southern United States Grace (G.A.) Woolson who was, as America’s foremost fern expert, often assumed to be a manViola Brainerd Baird, whose 1940s Wild Violets of North America is still unmatchedKate Brewster, whose book The Little Garden for Little Money was somewhat hampered by her own wealthAlma C. Guillet moved from Toronto to New York City and catalogued all the trees and shrubs in Central ParkMrs. L.L. Huffman, who wrote under her husband’s initials and was actually called Minnie EnolaSome better-known ladies of garden writing are also mentioned:Cassandra Danz, A.K.A. Mrs. GreenthumbsElizabeth Lawrence, whose Charlotte, North Carolina garden was so beloved it’s now part of a bird sanctuaryJean Hersey, whose book The Shape of the Year is still read and enjoyedTo enjoy more garden gab with Carol, find her in the following places:The Lost Ladies of Garden Writing Substack, which is updated weekly with new lost ladiesHer helpful weekly gardening newsletter, In the Garden with Carol J MichelThe Gardenangelists Podcast, which she co-hosts with Dee NashHer website, caroljmichel.com, where you will also find her books of humorous and helpful gardening essays:Potted and Pruned: Living a Gardening LifeHomegrown and Handpicked: A Year in a Gardening LifeSeeded and Sodded: Thoughts from a Gardening LifeCreatures and Critters: Who’s in my GardenDigging and Delighted: Live your Best Gardening LifeComments? Feedback? Want your garden question to be featured in a future Q&A segment? Email us, reach out over social media, or get Q&A priority by supporting us on Patreon. Bluesky: @plantsalwayswin.com TikTok: @plantsalwayswinpodcast YouTube: @plantsalwayswinpodcastWebsite: www.plantsalwayswin.com CreditsWebsite Design and Illustration by Sophia AlladinIntro and Outro Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/when-my-ukulele-playsLicense code: GWOIMMBAS15FG6PHTimestamps00:30 Introducing Carol Michel01:30 The World's Largest Hoe Collection04:45 Carol's Gardening Book Library07:40 The Lost Ladies of Garden Writing Project10:30 Garden Writing Then and Now11:34 Cynthia Westcott, PhD: The Gardener's Bug Book13:48 Can We Trust Old Gardening Books?15:18 Buckner Hollingsworth, Gardening on Main Street16:51 Carol convinces Sean to Become a Collector19:57 G.A. (Grace) Woolson, Ferns24:39 Elizabeth Lawrence, A Southern Garden26:29 How Carol Does her Research27:38 Writing Under their Husbands' Names29:33 Kate Brewster, The Little Garden for Little Money30:41 Jean Hersey, The Shape of the Year34:36 Alma C. Guillet, Make Friends of the Trees and Shrubs 35:20 Cassandra Danz, Mrs. Greenthumbs38:54 Carol's "Humorous but Helpful" Gardening Books39:07 Find Carol Online40:53 Contact us and Outro
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Plants Always Win is a podcast where two Ontario gardeners dive down plant-fact rabbit-holes, answer audience questions, interview intriguing guests, and compete to bring you the most interesting stories and information. We care about ecologically sound gardening, strong human communities, and up-to-date science.
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