Winged Wheel Podcast - A Detroit Red Wings Podcast

Dylan Larkin says he's done playing for the Red Wings, and Detroit has suspended him without pay. This Detroit Red Wings podcast emergency episode tackles the resulting Red Wings trade rumors, Shawn Horcoff's press conference and Larkin's 10-team list.
(00:00) - Intro & Jamie Daniels Fundraiser
Inspired by "Hellebucks", we've launched "DylanDough.com" (or "LarkinBucks.com", we're not picky) to count the roughly $41,000 a day Larkin is giving up. The goal: raise one day of his salary for the Jamie Daniels Foundation.
(03:45) - Dylan Larkin Suspension Reaction
Agent Pat Brisson's statement and the Red Wings' suspension set the scene, as we compare Larkin's move to Connor Hellebuyck's holdout in Winnipeg. The guys also find a silver lining for Detroit: a healthier player, the distraction out of the room, better draft lottery odds, and Emmitt Finnie as the true number one center.
(21:35) - Shawn Horcoff Press Conference
Horcoff says Detroit has talked to teams on and off Larkin's 10-team list, will consider futures, and is prepared to wait as long as it takes for the right deal. With every team on that list a contender, the list might really be one or two teams deep.
(29:25) - Trade Timeline Predictions
The holdout could get other teams calling, and Larkin's $8.7 million cap hit isn't adjusted like Hellebuyck's since he was at training camp. All three hosts lean 60-40 that he ends up with a team outside his list, with Montreal or Buffalo as the pick.
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Michal Postava wins his first NHL start in the most legendary way possible, as this Detroit Red Wings podcast has the Red Wings vs Oilers a 4-3 shootout game recap. Max Bultman joins to break down Red Wings trade rumors around Simon Edvinsson and Dylan Larkin.
(00:00) - Intro
Max Bultman joins us for another Good in the Room episode!
(03:55) - Oilers Shootout Win
MICHAL. POSTAVA. Massive win for the Czech netminder in his 1st career start. Viktor Arvidsson scores his fifth goal of the season, fourth on the power play, before Dylan Larkin ties it late with the goalie pulled. Moritz Seider's shift against the best player of his generation is pure "teach tape", and Michal Postava goes three-for-three in the shootout against McDavid, Draisaitl, and Nugent-Hopkins.
(29:50) - Postava & Goaltending Future
Michal Postava still hasn't allowed more than three goals in a game in North America. Max sees him heading back to Grand Rapids once Daniil Tarasov is healthy, but with John Gibson a pending UFA, more NHL starts should follow this season.
(34:30) - Axel Sandin-Pellikka Scratches
Axel Sandin-Pellikka has now sat in the press box for three straight games, and Brad warns against coaching the creativity out of him. Kris Letang comes up as the best-case comparable, while Max sees a 40-point career like Shayne Gostisbehere's.
(46:50) - Dylan Larkin Trade Market
Max runs through all 10 teams on Dylan Larkin's list and only sees two or three real fits, with Minnesota the big one. Off the list, Buffalo makes sense thanks to Tage Thompson and their assets, Larkin's Olympic linemate in Milan, and Boston isn't crazy either if Hagens or Minten are available.
(57:00) - Simon Edvinsson Landing Spots
The longer this drags on, the more Simon Edvinsson's situation looks like a real trade request, with a month and four days left to sign him for this season. The panel looks at St. Louis, Nashville and San Jose, building a package around Michael Misa with the Noah Dobson or Sergachev trade as a price check.
(01:09:05) - Quinn Hughes & Bill Guerin
Bill Guerin admits "I don't know what's going to happen" with Quinn Hughes, and the crew debates whether Minnesota should sell or go for it while sitting first in the Central. Plus, why an Edvinsson-for-Hughes swap is still a no.
(01:17:45) - Overtime Mailbag
Your questions on why Carter Bear is better off with the Griffins for now, taking a swing at Ivan Miroshnichenko, and whether a hot dog is a sandwich. Plus, Larkin's "muted" goal celebrations and interim GM Shawn Horcoff making the call on his trade.
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Max's Postava Article: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7268794/2026/05/13/detroit-red-wings-michal-postava-sebastian-cossa-goalie/

Lucas Raymond finally breaks out! In our Red Wings vs Canucks and Flames recaps: a lopsided win, then a stinker that snapped a six-game point streak. This Detroit Red Wings podcast also asks what Connor Hellebuyck's trade to New Jersey means for Dylan Larkin.
(00:00) - Intro
Brad thanks Mark Scheifele for being the other mutant who knows which way every NHL player shoots, and Evan's reputation for hating mid-day emergency episodes gets aired out.
(06:35) - Canucks & Flames Game Recaps
Lucas Raymond scores twice as Detroit jumps out 3-1 inside nine minutes, and Michal Postava stops seven of eight in relief in his NHL debut on a night where the Canucks went an hour and 42 minutes of real time without a shot. Then, a flat loss followed in Calgary as John Gibson and the Red Wings' special teams struggled.
(26:45) - Brandsegg-Nygard Calder Race
Michael Brandsegg-Nygard was tied with the Sharks' Ivar Stenberg for the rookie scoring lead at eight points, all without a power-play point. Why we call him the most impressive rookie in the league so far, positive defensive numbers included.
(32:10) - John Gibson Trade Debate
John Gibson's rough start and Daniil Tarasov's spot among the league leaders in goals saved above expected put a trade on the table, with goalie prospects stacked up behind them. What kind of trade offer would leave Horcoff and the Red Wings comfortable with Postava backing up and Augustine & Gylander in Grand Rapids?
(40:40) - Hellebuyck Deal & Larkin Market
We grade Winnipeg's return for Connor Hellebuyck and explain why the trade likely takes New Jersey out of the Dylan Larkin race. Plus, Larkin's list potentially growing more and why interim GM Shawn Horcoff is right to wait for a better offer.
(01:00:40) - Edvinsson Contract Standoff
Alexander Nikishin ends his holdout with a one-year, $3 million deal in Carolina after chasing around $9 million long term (the Hurricanes were one of the teams sniffing around Simon Edvinsson). Why the Edvinsson situation may now be about whether he still wants out rather than the numbers, and why a trade beats him sitting out the year.
(01:11:40) - Dustin Byfuglien Alumni Game
Former NHL defenseman Dustin Byfuglien is back on the ice and the crowd goes berserk. We relive his biggest hits, including one on Mark Stone that might be the hardest we've ever seen.
(01:14:40) - Overtime Mailbag
Moritz Seider's knee scare in the boards (he returned), why Axel Sandin-Pellikka can't keep getting scratched, and arena pet peeves from the stands to the concourse. Plus, whether it's time to panic on Nate Danielson and a listener's point that Larkin's trade value drops with age.
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Dylan Larkin's 10-team trade list is out, & the Utah Mammoth may change the outlook. This Detroit Red Wings podcast also covers Simon Edvinsson's contract meeting & the Red Wings vs Kraken recap in a 4-3 shootout loss to open a West Coast road trip.
(00:00) - Intro
The Finnie turtlenecks are coming.
(04:00) - Larkin's Ten-Team Trade List
Helene St. James of the Detroit Free Press reports the 10 teams Dylan Larkin would accept in his trade request, and Utah and New Jersey are among the new names. Utah's prospect pool could spark a bidding war with Desnoyers and Iginla being targets, but Elliotte Friedman reports the Mammoth aren't keen on moving their top young pieces, and they're known as brutal trade partners.
(20:00) - Montreal Omission & Prospect Targets
Montreal and every other Canadian team are still missing from the list, so which prospects would be an automatic yes? Tij Iginla or Caleb Desnoyers would get a yes as the headliner of a package, while prying a top prospect like Cole Hutson or Ilya Protas out of Washington is an extreme long shot.
(24:20) - Ownership's Win-Now Mandate
Chris Ilitch wants to win now, but demanding NHL-ready players in a trade while stalling on Simon Edvinsson's contract doesn't add up.
(33:30) - Edvinsson Contract Meeting
Pierre LeBrun reports Simon Edvinsson and agent J.P. Barry met face to face with the Red Wings this past weekend, though the read is that Edvinsson's side still prefers a trade. LeBrun points to the Bowen Byram, Sergachev, and Dobson trades as comparables, but with a December 1 deadline to sign him for this season, waiting out the contract standoff might be the smart play for Horcoff.
(51:05) - Kraken Comeback & Shootout
Down 3-0 with 11 shots through two periods, Detroit claws back on goals from Viktor Arvidsson and Lucas Raymond, whose power play tally is his first of the season. Alex DeBrincat ties it with 16 seconds left to stretch the point streak to five games, but Dylan Larkin can't convert the final attempt of the shootout.
(01:00:25) - Around the NHL
Henrik Zetterberg has his number retired by Timrå, and the Penguins' Ben Kindel is conscious and stable after a medical scare turned the team plane around. Plus, Ottawa fans' signs for Brady Tkachuk's homecoming and Connor McDavid's 243-point pace with six goals and 20 assists through nine games.
(01:05:10) - Overtime Mailbag
Your questions on Trevor Connelly's hot start in Vegas and Jimmy Devellano saying the Red Wings and Dylan Larkin have "kind of kissed and made up." Plus, Michael Rasmussen's heavy minutes, Carter Mazur's outlook and why the Red Wings lineup runs 11 forwards and seven defensemen.
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Two straight wins for the first time this season! This Detroit Red Wings podcast brings the Red Wings vs Flyers and Sharks recaps, from Anton Johansson's first NHL goal in a 2-1 win to Moritz Seider's stalwart play & Lucas Raymond's shootout winner in Saturday's comeback.
(00:00) - Intro & Rasmussen Reverse Jinx
Calling out Michael Rasmussen's point drought last episode worked!
(05:30) - Red Wings Game Recaps
Johansson skips a line change coming out of the penalty box to score on a two-on-one, and Andrew Copp buries the late winner against a winless Philadelphia team. Down 3-1 in the third to San Jose, Detroit gets more stellar play from Finnie & MBN, Alex DeBrincat's tying goal with about a minute and a half left, and nearly 30 minutes from Moritz Seider.
(31:30) - Bernard-Docker On Waivers
Jacob Bernard-Docker, signed through next season at $1.6 million, goes unclaimed and heads to Grand Rapids, a vote of confidence in Detroit's young right-handed defensemen.
(36:20) - Edvinsson Sighting
Simon Edvinsson pops up at a Colgate women's hockey pregame skate in a Red Wings practice jersey and a Boston University helmet - sign a contract is close, or just noise?
(39:10) - Larkin Montreal Trade Theory & Red Wings Notess
Ryan's tinfoil-hat theory is that Detroit and Montreal both want to settle Larkin's trade request together, with Canadiens prospect Michael Hage as the dream return, even though most call him a non-starter. Plus, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard sits tied for second in rookie scoring playing alongside 1C Emmitt Finnie, and the Rangers kick tires on goalies with John Gibson's name in the mix.
(53:05) - Ilitch on Horcoff's Future
Chris Ilitch tells a group of reporters that interim GM Shawn Horcoff is a candidate to have the tag removed but the GM/President of Hockey Ops search continues, right after Horcoff got the Alex DeBrincat contract done. Is Horcoff the president of hockey ops type? What's his path where he stays on as GM under one?
(01:00:05) - Hellebuyck Suspension Fallout
The Jets suspended Connor Hellebuyck without pay for about three weeks after he skipped training camp to push for a trade. With captain Adam Lowry saying there'll have to be a conversation, will Winnipeg play him at all?
(01:04:05) - Overtime Mailbag
Your questions on trading for Oilers forward Isaac Howard and MBN's Calder odds. Plus, why running 11 forwards and seven defensemen is the right lineup call and how Todd McLellan is deploying the kids.
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