Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

This week, Thomas sits down with award-winning researcher, author, and science communicator Britt Wray to discuss the need for collective care, systemic action, and spiritual introspection in addressing the climate crisis and its psychological effects.

Britt offers an approach to climate anxiety, called “Transformational Resilience,” that focuses on channeling emotional distress into meaningful action and care, rather than resorting to denial or returning to an unhelpful baseline.

She and Thomas also explore how climate action is like a relay race, where action is sustained over time by passing the baton, and how acting in alignment with environmental values reduces cognitive dissonance and fosters emotional well-being.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/qP5Iq4gBcPE
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/

Join Thomas and leading psychologists, clinical practitioners, artists, teachers, and cultural leaders for ✨ Healers on Healing ✨, a free online event from September 17-19.

Dr. Sharon Salzberg, Michael Meade, Dr. Mariel Buqué, and more will engage in ten in-depth conversations exploring how healing happens, what we experience, and how it shapes the future.

Learn more and sign up for free here 👉 https://conversationsonhealing.com

✨ Dr. Britt Wray is an award-winning researcher, author, and science communicator focused on the mental health impacts of climate change. She directs CIRCLE at Stanford Psychiatry and also founded Unthinkable, a nonprofit addressing the climate-mental health crisis. Britt is the author of Generation Dread, a bestselling book on climate anxiety, and a leading voice in the emerging field of climate psychology. She’s received multiple honors, including the 2025 American Climate Leadership Award (Runner-Up) and the 2023 Canadian Eco-Hero Award. As a TED and World Economic Forum speaker, Britt brings global attention to the emotional toll of the ecological crisis.

Connect with Britt here 👉 https://www.brittwray.com

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

This week, Thomas shares a teaching on what fuels your life energy and how this connects to your spiritual health and sense of purpose.

Thomas focuses in on the idea of interdependence, or interconnectedness, and how your vitality is dependent on relational dynamics, co-regulation, and collective wellness.

He explores healing modalities and spiritual practices that can recharge your energetic battery, with wisdom on how to shift from repetitive, stagnant patterns to emergent, authentic movements.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/GruhKm9RwGU
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
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This week, Thomas shares a teaching on becoming grounded to integrate ancestral wisdom and initiate yourself into the digital age in a spiritually centered and holistic way.

He explores the perspective shifts that occur in both healing and spiritual awakening, and how we can harness this transformative power to heal collectively and evolve technologically without abandoning spiritual connection.

Thomas also discusses the importance of embracing uncertainty to expand your consciousness, what it means to truly process the past, and how to open yourself to your unique, higher calling.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/3s4ULNqNfzs
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
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This week, Thomas sits down with Ashanti Kunene, an activist, slam poet, writer, and the founder of Learning 2 Unlearn, for a conversation about spiritual alignment and integrity in leadership and the connection between individual healing and systems change.

In a time when we’re all faced with the repercussions of intergenerational trauma, oppressive systems, and unethical leadership, those of us who feel called to facilitate change must first confront our personal narratives, ethics, and shadow-self so that our actions align with our inner spiritual and moral compass.

Ashanti and Thomas explore what that really looks like, what people in positions of power are truly responsible and accountable for, and what we can learn from the good AND the bad deeds of those who came before us.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/vGKfLeyFKis
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/

✨ Ashanti Kunene is an art activist, slam poet, published writer, two-time TEDx speaker, and the founder of Learning 2 Unlearn – a decolonial strategic narratives consultancy cultivating leadership coherence in the context of the polycrisis. She also serves as the Co-Lead of the Transforming Wealth Lab for the Joseph Rowntree Foundation.

Connect with Ashanti here 👉 https://www.learning2unlearn.com

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
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This week, Thomas sits down with mythologist Michael Meade for a conversation about initiations, awakenings, and how to access your innate gifts to be a transformative force in a world in crisis.

Michael shares about his formative experience as a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War, and how the confinement, isolation, and trauma that he endured informed his spiritual development and life philosophy.

He and Thomas look at the current uncertain state of the world where old structures are collapsing as a liminal space where the new world has not yet been born. Michael argues that healing and evolving into a better world requires us to be present with conflict, sustain soulful connections, maintain creative and contemplative practices, and find the courage from our heart to lean into our authentic, imperfect selves.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/WxJM-YICdkQ
Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/

✨ Michael Meade, D.H.L., is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. He is the creator of the Living Myth Podcast, and the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a nonprofit that encourages greater understanding between diverse peoples.

Connect with Michael here 👉 https://www.mosaicvoices.org

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:
Website: https://thomashuebl.com/
Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:
👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:
👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9