S13 Ep65: How The Giro Was Won (And Lost) On The Finestre, with Matt White
As the dust settles on a sensational 20th stage of the Giro d’Italia, Lionel Birnie is joined by Matt White – one of the people in cycling who knows Simon Yates best – to analyse how the race was won (and lost) on the Colle delle Finestre.
Until the eve of the Giro, Matt was head of performance at the Jayco-Alula team, having been with the Green Edge organisation since it was founded. Until this season, Yates had spent his whole professional career with the team and he and Matt shared many highs and one memorable low.
Matt was in the team car when Simon Yates lost the 2018 Giro on the Finestre following Chris Froome’s audacious long-range attack on stage 19, so he has a fascinating insight into the tactical and psychological issues that played out on the mountain on Saturday. Yates bounced back later that season to win the Vuelta a España.
But what else stood out to Matt as he watched the stage on Saturday? How did Visma-Lease A Bike pull it off, and could Isaac Del Toro, Richard Carapaz and their respective teams have done anything differently?
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S13 Ep64: Stage 21 | Roma – Roma | Giro d’Italia 2025
Join us for daily coverage of the Giro d’Italia recorded on the road as the race makes its way from Albania to Rome. Our daily coverage features race analysis, interviews and daily postcards from Italy, plus our regular check-in with Tudor Pro Cycling’s Larry Warbasse.
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S13 Ep61: Irish Legs Are Smiling
On The Cycling Podcast Féminin this month, Rose Manley, Denny Gray and Rebecca Charlton head back to their virtual cabana to talk about everything that happened in the Spanish racing block.
With a win at Vuelta a Burgos, Marlen Reusser’s ascendency continues. The Movistar rider has put a difficult 2024 behind her to become one of the very best GC stage race contenders in the world. Plus we can’t agree on whether to put Team SD Worx’s lacklustre GC stage racing campaign in Burgos and Itzulia down to overreaching team orders or plain old bad luck. And there are some new names to look out for in the peloton, with riders like Mie Bjørndal Ottestad and Celia Géry enjoying breakthrough performances.
For this month’s mini feature, we speak to two Irish riders who have joined the World Tour this season - Lara Gillespie of UAE-ADQ and Mia Griffin of Roland. The pair formed half of the quartet that made history at the Paris Olympics as Ireland’s first ever female pursuit team, a feat all the more remarkable considering the country is yet to have an indoor velodrome. We hear from both riders as they turn their attentions to the road.
Also on the agenda, week-long Nienke Vinke Fan Club celebrations, Denny’s Union Jack bowler hat and how the TCP Féminin budget REALLY gets spent.
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