The 311 Podcast

Historically, we've relied on government and the public sector to regulate the development of society-altering technologies, radio, telephone, automobiles, air travel, broadcast, internet have all come under the slow but steady oversight of the public sector. Even social media is being scrutinized and regions like Australia are beginning to legislate age limits for access.
Artificial intelligence is a different animal and it's moving at an exponential rate of development. It also promises radical social and cultural change from eliminating entire workforces; to shifting global power centers; consolidating wealth; and creating scientific fiction inspiring potentials. AI promises tectonic shifts in healthcare, human thriving, science, energy, economic output, social equity, and more. How can we navigate a future with such wide ranging potentials? Is government able to regulate at this pace of change? Should we, what about in regions like the US where all regulation of AI is being intentionally sidestepped? Is legislation even the right construct for dealing with the future of AI?
Enter the AI collective, a global gathering of civil society, including individuals, researchers, investors, and operators. The AI Collective is a fast growing, nonprofit, grassroots community still in its early days, but already 200,000 members strong with more than 300 organizers and operating on every continent except Antarctica. And that's just as of this recording date. They boast a relationship with almost every major AI and tech organization you can think of.
Today we're gonna talk to two of the founding leadership team from the AI Collective, AJ Green, Founding Director of Growth, and Catherine McMillan, Founding Director.
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Guest Information
The AI Collective Website | LinkedIn

Catherine McMillan, Founding Director | LinkedIn
AJ Green, Founding Director (Growth) | LinkedIn
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On this episode of The 311 Podcast, Paul, Catherine, and AJ chat about:

Welcome to Season 3
Introduction to the AI Collective
AJ Green's Journey to the AI Collective
Catherine McMillan's Path to the AI Collective
Diverse Team and High Agency
Corporate Partnerships and Community Trust
Manis Event: A Case of Perfect Timing
The Role of AI Collective
Moonshots & the Secret Sauce Ahead
 Final Thoughts from Paul
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Bonus Resources for Stuff We Talked About:
Edelman Trust Barometer
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Recorded in January 2026
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The Heart of Public Service with Pearl Amanfu

Today my guest is Pearl Amanfu. Pearl is the Digital Inclusion Officer for Metro Nashville. Although Pearl and I just met, she's the model for the type of person I started this podcast to amplify: the humans who believe deeply in community, human thriving and progress, and are willing to do the hard organizational work to create real change through digital enablement. 
Borrowing her words, Pearl has a helper heart, and she genuinely wants a better world for the residents of Metro Nashville. Pearl is a community builder, and in this episode she shines a light onto what it's like to make sure that Metro Nashville is accountable and of service to the greatest number of Tennesseans possible, and she also shares a bit about where she thinks their work could go next. Here's my conversation with Pearl.

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Guest Information
Pearl Amanfu LinkedIn

To learn more on the Nashville Metro Digital Inclusion work please visit Metro Digital Skillslink | Nashville.gov
For more information on organizations Pearl highlights please see:
Nashville Public Library Digital Literacy Programs | NPL Digital Learn
National Digital Inclusion Alliance (NDIA) are the parent organization for the Digital Equity Leaders Network (DELN) 
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On this episode of the 311 Podcast Paul and Pearl cover the following topics:

Introduction to Pearl Amanfu and Digital Inclusion​​
Pearl's Career Journey
Challenges and Barriers in Digital Inclusion
Nashville's Unique Approach to Digital Inclusion
Proud Achievements and Key Projects
The Digital Navigator Program
Future Vision and Advice for Aspiring Helpers
Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Thank you to our season two sponsor Northern. For more information on their services, visit northern.co

Recorded in May 2025.

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Today, my guest is Stephanie Deitrick, who is the Enterprise GIS [Geographic Information System] and Open Data Program Manager for the city of Tempe, Arizona.
She's also a program director for the Master's of Advanced Study in GIS program at Arizona State University. Stephanie has her PhD in geography from Arizona State and has spent her career building the next generation of data experts with a focus on GIS, but a broader lens on public data. 
As someone who consults with municipalities on digital strategy, I spend much of my time trying to paint a narrative of what mature digital practice around data and public service looks like. Imagine my surprise when I stumbled on the city of Tempe, Arizona and their open data portal and service performance dashboard. It was everything I'd been imagining for my clients and more. So I had to find out who was behind this category leading work. That's how I came across Stephanie, her team, and their work.
Tempe is a model city for these values and what can happen when great leadership and great teams come together. Tempe has launched not just a best of breed open data portal, but a performance dashboard featuring KPIs powered by real-time data that openly publishes their compliance with the various service levels and outcomes that they have committed to on behalf of their citizens.
This courageous approach is a model for how local government can rebuild, trust and engage with their community. I think you'll learn a lot from Stephanie's mindset, and even if you're not in government, it's helpful to understand the internal workings of government entities and how with the right alignment and leadership, organizations can find new ways to prove their value and serve their communities.
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Guest information:
Dr. Stephanie Deitrick LinkedIn
Open Tempe  "The City of Tempe is committed to transparency and to providing accurate and easy to access data about our community. Below are the tools you can use to get information about our community’s finances, strategic priorities and more."
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What Paul and Stephanie talk about:
Tempe's approach to open data, including their "open by default" policy.
The importance of courageous leadership in driving digital transformation and open data initiatives.
Tempe's performance management program and its integration with budgeting.
The city's work with opioid emergency calls for service and wastewater testing for opioids and COVID.
The process of data classification and balancing public access with privacy protection.
The impact of AI on data privacy and the need for continuous reassessment of data masking strategies.
The importance of cross-functional teams, understanding subject matter, and building trust and communication with business units.
The role of trust and communication in enabling the City of Tempe to achieve transformative outcomes in public service.
Resources Referenced in the Interview
 Simon Sinek, The Golden Circle.
Recorded in May 2025.
This is a show about the people that make digital public service work. If you'd like to find out more, visit the311podcast.com
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Transforming the Department of Defence with Savan Kong. 
Today my guest is Savan Kong. Savan has a unique resume and set of experiences. He was most recently the first ever Customer Experience Officer for the United States Department of Defense. One of the largest organizations of any kind in the world. 

When the CIO of the DOD tapped Savan to pioneer the new CXO role, Savan brought a design mindset to the job in every way. And in this episode, he's going to share his mindset and models for how to introduce design infrastructure into an organization as complex as the US DOD. I think you'll like his approach, and in the show notes, we'll be sure to spell out the model he lays out in the episode in great detail. Here's my conversation with Savan.
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Guest information:
Savan Kong LinkedIn | www.savankong.com
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Savan's Model
Savan highlighted that design is an intentional act of problem-solving. He applied these principles to explore how the CXO office within the Department of Defense could leverage policy and strategy to enhance customer experience.
While establishing the CXO office, Savan applied four key strategies in his model. Including specific steps in creating design infrastructure that embraces the problem solving nature of design thinking into the CXO infrastructure.
Building Alliances: Identify key individuals to understand the organization and advance the CXO agenda.
Identifying Leverage Points: Understand the organization's priorities, learn its culture, and identify key levers for initiative momentum.
Defining Measurable Outcomes: Establish IT governance, update strategy for investment guidance, implement performance management (including OKRs), create a consistent intake structure for customer feedback, and build a user experience foundation.
Developing a Robust Design Infrastructure: Ensure the infrastructure is authoritative (vetted, signed off, and documented),
sustained (funded, adopted, and continuously improved), and
scaled (impacts many, is agnostic, and normalizes expectations).

Recorded in May, 2025
This is a show about the people that make digital public service work. If you'd like to find out more, visit the311podcast.com
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Today my guest is Tim Bouma. Tim is Canada's public sector digital identity expert. He's held key roles in the federal government for years and was a key player in the Pan-Canadian Trust Framework, which brought together regional and federal government players to define standards and best practices for digital identity.

Tim now sits as a special advisor to Canada's Digital Governance Council, Conseil de Gouvernance Numérique, a member driven nonprofit working on responsible design, architecture, and management of digital technologies for the public service. 
Guest information:
Tim Bouma, Special Advisor, Digital Governance Council LinkedIn
Digital Governance Council Website LinkedIn
Public Sector Profile of the Pan-Canadian Trust Framework | Cadre de Confiance pancanadien
The 311 episode with guest and shared friend, Ashley Casovan, that recommended Paul look to Tim Bouma for Canadian expertise in the digital identity area: S1 E1 - Governing A.I. with Ashley Casovan, The 311 Podcast
Additional information on some of the technologies mentioned in the episode:
Most Minimal Trust Framework, Tim Bouma’s Newsletter
Trust Frameworks, The Digital ID and Authentication Council of Canada (DIACC)
Frequently Asked Questions, The Digital ID and Authentication Council of Canada (DIACC)
Your Guide to Self-Sovereign Identity (SSI), Identity.com
Decentralized Identity: The Ultimate Guide 2025, Dock Labs 
Border Gateway Protocol (BGP), LivingInternet BGP
Public Key Encryption, Geeks for Geeks
What is public key infrastructure?, IBM 
Self­-Sov­er­eign Ide­nt­ity: A New Appr­oach to Dig­ital Ide­nt­ity, DSR Corporation
Issuer / Holder / Verifier Model, LUNA.CO
What is Blockchain Technology?, Amazon Web Services
Chaumian ecash, chaum.com
Nostr: A Simple Protocol for Decentralized Social Media
This is a show about the people that make digital public service work. If you'd like to find out more, visit the311podcast.com
We're going to keep having conversations like this. If you've got ideas of guests we should speak to, send us an email to [email protected]