Amy Odell (author of Gwyneth: The Biography) interviews Linus Karp and Joseph Martin, stars and creators of the hit play with music, Gwyneth Goes Skiing — a send-up of the 2023 trial involving Gwyneth Paltrow and retired optometrist Terry Sanderson.
Amy talks about her interview with Terry Sanderson for her book; Linus and Joseph talk about their research process for the play; props (yes, they visited the Goop store); and why this viral courtroom moment translated so well to the stage. Gwyneth recently discussed Amy's book in British Vogue, and the three discuss that, too.
Guests: Linus Karp & Joseph Martin
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00:00 — Intro: 'Gwyneth: The Biography' + 'Gwyneth Goes Skiing'
00:29 — How Gwyneth and Terry Sanderson ended up in court
01:40 — A preview of 'Gwyneth Goes Skiing'
03:30 — Research: the play and the book
09:00 — Portraying Terry Sanderson & Gwyneth Paltrow
18:00 — Goop store visit & props
22:00 — Amy recalls interviewing Terry Sanderson
28:00 — Discussing Gwyneth's response to 'Gwyneth' in British 'Vogue'
31:00 — Closing thoughts
Credits
Host and producer: Amy Odell
Editing: Amy Odell and Jonathan Voytko
Recorded October 17, 2025
Photos: Anna Clare (Courtesy of Awkward Productions)
Video: Courtesy of Awkward Productions
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The Untold Story of Victoria Beckham's Brand
Amy reviews Victoria Beckham's new Netflix documentary, which sheds light on how she went from maligned tabloid star to the founder of her own fashion brand — and how she made over her image to earn the industry's respect. Plus, "Loose Threads" about Anna Wintour, Victoria's Secret, and more.
This episode originally ran in the Back Row newsletter.
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Fashion Month Awards: Spring 2026
Amy is joined by Dana Thomas, fashion journalist and New York Times bestselling author of Deluxe, to pick spring 2026 Fashion Month Awards. Categories include: Most Baffling Success; Best Debut; Most Polarizing Collection; and more.
For more stories like this, subscribe to the Back Row newsletter and Amy's YouTube channel.
Get more from Dana Thomas in her Style Files newsletter.
Books referenced: Amy's Anna: The Biography; Dana's Gods & Kings: The Rise and Fall of Alexander McQueen and John Galliano
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The Verdict on Chanel!
Amy reviews designer Matthieu Blazy's historic debut collection for Chanel.
This podcast is based on this issue of her Back Row newsletter.
Also referenced: this "Retail Confessions" column where a former Chanel sales person talks about what it was really like working in the store selling to some of the world's wealthiest people.
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Jonathan Anderson's Dior Debut: The Response!
Well, it happened. At long last, Jonathan Anderson showed his first Dior women’s collection.
Is everyone happy now? Well, not really.
Read this story in Back Row and see the images discussed.
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