The Jann Arden Podcast

In this episode of Behind the Song, Jann Arden shares the story behind her iconic song 'Good Mother,' reflecting on gratitude in her early 30s, family relationships, and the song's profound impact on listeners. She recounts writing the lyrics with black eyeliner on the inside of a cigarette package in under an hour! She also speaks about how the song is equally about her father and mother, and being yourself.

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Friend of the show, actress & author Mary Jo Eustace joins Jann to discuss her recent return to live television! She tells Jann about her experience on Breakfast Television, while reflecting on her early challenges in the entertainment industry. They discuss the legacy of her cooking show 'What's for Dinner', which MJ would love to reboot.

As always, they also talk love, relationships, and personal growth. The discussion also touches on the challenges and triumphs of navigating life after divorce. Mary Jo shares her insights on sexuality and the misconceptions surrounding aging, ultimately celebrating the vibrancy and resilience of women over 60.

https://www.instagram.com/maryjoeustace/

https://www.womeninmedia.network/show/senior-bitches/

What's For Dinner on YouTube

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Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction to Mary Jo Eustace

(02:57) Love and Relationships: A Shift in Perspective

(05:52) The Journey of Self-Discovery

(08:55) Returning to Television: Morning TV Experience

(11:59) The Legacy of 'What's for Dinner'

(14:57) Navigating Divorce and Personal Growth

(18:00) Future Aspirations and New Projects

(30:53) The Rise of Online Contempt

(32:10) Sabotage and Reality Distortion

(34:11) Public Humiliation and Personal Growth

(35:23) Aging and Self-Acceptance

(36:59) Cutting Toxic People Out

(38:42) Navigating Relationships and Expectations

(40:34) The Complexity of Modern Relationships

(42:52) Compassion and Understanding in Relationships

(46:11) Sexuality and Aging

(47:53) Challenging the Narrative of Invisibility
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This week's edition of Ask Jann includes her better half, Thordis Elva! Along with Caitlin and Sarah, Jann and Thordis reminisce about the early days of their love and reveal more of their wedding planning journey. They flashback to their initial and immediate romantic connection and the podcast episode where they both tried to hide it (Link below).

They also discuss the unique traditions they are incorporating into their wedding, from food choices to personal touches. They share their honeymoon plans and reflect on the importance of normalizing love in all its forms and the joy of community support.

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(00:00) Introduction and Setting the Scene

(03:01) Romantic Connections and Wedding Planning

(06:00) Wedding Traditions and Personal Touches

(08:59) Food and Drink Choices for the Wedding

(11:58) Unique Wedding Gifts and Fun Moments

(15:56) The Challenge of Summarizing Important Moments

(17:40) Wedding Preparations and Excitement

(19:00) Honeymoon Plans and Travel Adventures

(26:59) The Impact of Kindness and Community

(27:58) Normalizing Love and Relationships

(30:00) Pre-Wedding Jitters and Shitters
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This week Jann and Caitlin welcome Jen Agg, a prominent figure in the Canadian dining scene an intriguing author. She discusses her journey in the restaurant industry, her new memoir 'Table Boss', and the challenges of caregiving after her husband's stroke. They also touch on the evolution of Toronto's restaurant culture, and the importance of customer experience in dining. Jen shares her insights on love, relationships, and the realities of running a restaurant in today's world, all while making us laugh. She shares insights on the challenges faced by women in the restaurant industry and her connection with the late Anthony Bourdain, and the importance of self-care practices for resilience.

More About Jen Agg:

Jen Agg is a restaurateur in Toronto, owner of Bar Vendetta, Grey Gardens, Rhum Corner, Le Swan, General Public and Cocktail Bar. She is the co-host of Restaurant Impossible: Last Call on Food Network. She’s the author of I Hear She’s a Real Bitch and Table Boss: How To Build a Restaurant When Your Life Falls Apart (A Love Story). Her writing has appeared in the New Yorker, the New York Times, and more.

https://www.instagram.com/jen___agg/

https://torontolife.com/food/jen-agg-restaurant-impossible-last-call-reality-tv-show/

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https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/authors/2134211/jen-agg

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(00:00) Introduction to Jen Agg and Her Impact on Canadian Dining

(02:49) Rapid Fire Questions: Getting to Know Jen Agg

(06:04) The Journey of Success and Its Challenges

(08:52) The Evolution of the Toronto Restaurant Scene

(12:02) The Black Hoof: A Turning Point in Dining

(14:58) The Reality of Restaurant Ownership Today

(18:01) The Importance of Customer Experience in Dining

(20:47) Caregiving and Its Impact on Love and Relationships

(23:57) Navigating Love and Caregiving After a Stroke

(29:24) Navigating Caregiver Burnout

(30:00) Public Perception and Misunderstanding

(31:47) The Impact of Social Media on Public Figures

(34:58) The Role of Criticism in Public Life

(38:12) Understanding Anthony Bourdain's Influence

(43:24) Self-Reflection and Personal Growth
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In this deeply personal edition of Behind the Song, Jann Arden tells the story behind one of her most heartbreaking and beloved tracks, prompted by a moving voice message from longtime listener. Jann and Sarah discuss the song “Hanging by a Thread” from her 1997 album Happy?

Jann opens up about the real-life family trauma that shaped the lyrics, sharing the painful memories of visiting her brother in Bowden Penitentiary, the haunting words her mother said in a prison parking lot, and the moments that became the emotional core of the song.

She reflects on addiction, shame, unresolved questions around her brother’s conviction, and the lasting sorrow for the victims. Jann also talks about navigating media sensationalism, the complicated love she has for her family, and why “Hanging by a Thread” remains one of the most important (and most requested) songs of her career.

Which song do you want to hear more about?

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