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Tali Rosenblatt Cohen
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  • Jessica Berger Gross on on Cultural Judaism and Creative Resistance
    When Hazel Blum’s father gets a tenured job at a prestigious college, she and her family relocate from Brooklyn to a middle-of-nowhere college town in Maine. With her mother, Claire, a clothing designer, and her father, Gus, an American Studies professor, Hazel and her eleven-year-old brother, Wolf, spend the summer at the town pool, where they acclimate to their new lives and connect with the town’s sprawling community. That is, until a dramatic fallout on the very first day of her senior year tips the fickle balance of idyllic Riverburg and impacts everyone in her family. Jessica Berger Gross is the author of the memoir Estranged: Leaving Family and Finding Home. Her essays have appeared in The New York Times Magazine, The Cut, Longreads and many other publications. She graduated from Vassar College and has a master’s degree from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Originally from New York, she lives in Maine with her husband and teenage son. Hazel Says No is her first novel.  In our conversation, we’ll explore finding creativity after trauma, the joy of being “culturally” jewish, and how a high school production of Brighton Beach Memoirs changed the course of her life. We also talk about the power of saying no – not just as a personal boundary, but as an act of resistance, deeply rooted in Jewish tradition. Jessica Berger Gross’ Five Books: 1. Brighton Beach Memoirs by Neil Simon 2. Howard Stern Comes Again by Howard Stern 3. The Postcard by Anne Berest 4. The Heaven & Earth Grocery Store by James McBride 5. Hazel Says No by Jessica Berger Gross Other Books Mentioned: - Summer of My German Soldier by Bette Greene - Are you there God? It’s Me, Margaret. by Judy Blume - The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank- Far from the Tree by Andrew Solomon - She Said by Jodi Kantor & Megan Twohey - Random Family by Adrian Nicole LeBlanc - Fellowship Point by Alice Elliott Dark The Five Books is a podcast that celebrates the role of books in Jewish culture. Through author interviews, we delve into Jewish identity and discover each author’s favorite novels. Join us every week for new Jewish book recommendations! Some of our episodes have included conversations with Rabbi Sharon Brous (Senior Rabbi at IKAR, and author of The Amen Effect), Yael Van Der Wouden (author of The Safekeep), and Dara Horn (author of People Love Dead Jews.) ⁠⁠Sign up for our newsletter⁠⁠ to get new episode reminders, authors’ five book picks, and more delivered straight to your inbox. Find us on Instagram @fivebookspod or on Facebook at The Five Books Podcast. For feedback or author recommendations please email us at [email protected] For transcripts and more find us online at www.fivebookspod.org  The Five Books has the advisory and promotional support of the Jewish Book Council. Jewish Book Council is a nonprofit dedicated to amplifying and celebrating Jewish literature and supporting authors and readers. Stay up to date on the latest in Jewish literature! https://www.jewishbookcouncil.org/events/celebrate The Five Books is fiscally sponsored by FJC, a 501c3 public charity.  Hosted by Tali Rosenblatt Cohen Produced by Odelia Rubin Editorial and website support by Sarah Waring Artwork by Dena Friedman Music by Dov Rosenblatt and Blue Dot Sessions.
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  • Mary Morris on Hidden Histories and Jewish Identities
    Thirty years ago, Laura’s mother, Viola, went missing. She left behind her purse, her keys and her mysterious paintings of a red house. Viola was never found, and her family never recovered. Laura, an artist herself, held on to the paintings. On the back of each work, her mother scrawled in Italian, “I will not be here forever.” The family never understood what Viola meant.  Blending elements of true crime with settings that evoke Elena Ferrante, Laura follows her mother’s trajectory as she ventures north to Naples, Turin and finally home. Along the way, she confronts the dark truth of her mother’s story and at last makes sense of her own. Mary Morris is the author of numerous works of fiction, including the novels The Jazz Palace, and Gateway to the Moon, and of nonfiction, including All the Way to the Tigers and the travel memoir classic Nothing to Declare: Memoirs of a Woman Traveling Alone. She is a recipient of the Rome Prize in literature and the 2016 Anisfield-Wolf Award for fiction. Morris lives in Brooklyn, New York. In our conversation, we’ll explore the roots of the name, Mary, and how it has shaped her Jewish experience, what draws Morris to uncover buried histories in her work, and her unexpected and painful association with To Kill A Mockingbird. Mary Morris’ Five Books: 1. The Last of the Just by Andre Schwartz-Bart 2. The Weight of Ink by Rachel Kadish 3. To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee 4. The Paris Stories by Mavis Gallant 5. The Red House by Mary Morris Other Books Mentioned: - The Colossus of Maroussi by Henry Miller - Poems by Constantine P. Cavafy - Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis The Five Books is a podcast that celebrates the role of books in Jewish culture. Through author interviews, we delve into Jewish identity and discover each author’s favorite novels. Join us every week for new Jewish book recommendations! Some of our episodes have included conversations with Rabbi Sharon Brous (Senior Rabbi at IKAR, and author of The Amen Effect ), Yael Van Der Wouden (author of The Safekeep), and Dara Horn (author of People Love Dead Jews.) ⁠⁠Sign up for our newsletter⁠⁠ to get new episode reminders, authors’ five book picks, and more delivered straight to your inbox. Find us on Instagram @fivebookspod or on Facebook at The Five Books Podcast. For feedback or author recommendations please email us at [email protected] For transcripts and more find us online at www.fivebookspod.org  The Five Books has the advisory and promotional support of the Jewish Book Council. Jewish Book Council is a nonprofit dedicated to amplifying and celebrating Jewish literature and supporting authors and readers. Stay up to date on the latest in Jewish literature! https://www.jewishbookcouncil.org/events/celebrate The Five Books is fiscally sponsored by FJC, a 501c3 public charity.  Hosted by Tali Rosenblatt Cohen Produced by Odelia Rubin Editorial and website support by Sarah Waring Artwork by Dena Friedman Music by Dov Rosenblatt and Blue Dot Sessions.
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  • Announcement: Now an Always-On, Every Other Week Show, and a Newsletter!
    Hi everyone! If you’re new here, welcome! At The Five Books, we’re all about connecting through stories. What role do books play in shaping who we are? Which beloved books do you share with your favorite author? What’s the next great read that might shift your worldview? Stick around and we’ll have your summer reading pile stocked in no time. In case you missed it, we’re moving to an every-other-week publishing schedule! That means no more long breaks between seasons – you’ll now be able to discover great Jewish authors and the books they love, all year long. We’ll be back next Tuesday and every other Tuesday after that. If you’d like to get reminders when new episodes drop plus a full list of the books discussed - with links - delivered straight to your inbox, subscribe to our newsletter! You’ll find the link in the show notes of this episode or on our website: fivebookspod.org Our newsletter was inspired by listener feedback! So if YOU have a suggestion, or an author you’d love to hear from, email us anytime at [email protected]. We can’t wait to hear from you. Thank you so much for listening, reading, and supporting Jewish authors. Whether you’re here for literary insight or cultural connection, The Five Books is a space for book lovers and curious minds to explore what it means to live, write, and read as a Jewish American today.  See you next week!
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  • Rabbi Sharon Brous on Finding Her Place in the Jewish Community and Working to Mend Our Broken Hearts and World
    In a time of loneliness and isolation, social rupture and alienation, what will it take to mend our broken hearts and rebuild our society? Sharon Brous—a leading American rabbi—makes the case that the spiritual work of our time, as instinctual as it is counter-cultural, is to find our way to one other in celebration, in sorrow, and in solidarity. To show up for each other in moments of joy and pain, vulnerability and possibility, to invest in relationships of shared purpose and build communities of care.  Sharon Brous is the founding and senior rabbi of IKAR, a trail-blazing Jewish community based in Los Angeles. A leading voice at the intersection of faith and justice in America, she has been named #1 Most Influential Rabbi in the U.S. by Newsweek/The Daily Beast. She blessed both President Obama and President Biden at their National Inaugural Prayer Services, and her TED Talk “Reclaiming Religion” has been viewed 1.5 million times. Her work has been featured in the New York Times, Los Angeles Times and Washington Post. She lives with her husband, David Light, and their children in California. In our conversation, Rabbi Brous shares what it took for her to carve out a place for herself in a community that didn’t always feel welcoming. We’ll also discuss the power of foundational stories, the idea that religion begins with asking the right questions, and how to stay in conversation even when it’s difficult. Rabbi Sharon Brous’ Five Books: 1. Deborah, Golda, and Me: Being Female and Jewish in America by Letty Cottin Pogrebin 2. The Sabbath by Abraham Joshua Heschel and The Prophets by Abraham Joshua Heschel  3. Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi  4. The Postcard by Ann Berest 5. The Amen Effect: Ancient Wisdom to Mend Our Broken Hearts and World by Sharon Brous Other Books Mentioned: Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl The Jewish Way: Living the Holidays by Rabbi Irving Greenberg  The Book And The Sword: A Life Of Learning In The Shadow Of Destruction by  David Weiss Halivni  The Five Books is a podcast that celebrates the role of books in Jewish culture. Through author interviews, we delve into Jewish identity and discover each author’s favorite novels. Join us every week for new Jewish book recommendations! Some of our episodes have included conversations with Yehuda Kurtzer (host of Identity/Crisis), Yael Van Der Wouden (author of The Safekeep), and Dara Horn (author of People Love Dead Jews.) ⁠⁠Sign up for our newsletter⁠⁠ to get new episode reminders, authors’ five book picks, and more delivered straight to your inbox. Find us on Instagram @fivebookspod or on Facebook at The Five Books Podcast. For feedback or author recommendations please email us at [email protected] For transcripts etc find us online at www.fivebookspod.org  The Five Books has the advisory and promotional support of the Jewish Book Council. Jewish Book Council is a nonprofit dedicated to amplifying and celebrating Jewish literature and supporting authors and readers. Stay up to date on the latest in Jewish literature! https://www.jewishbookcouncil.org/events/celebrate The Five Books is fiscally sponsored by FJC, a 501c3 public charity.  Hosted by Tali Rosenblatt Cohen Produced by Odelia Rubin Editorial and website support by Sarah Waring Artwork by Dena Friedman Music by Dov Rosenblatt and Blue Dot Sessions.
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  • Jeremy Dauber on Jewish Literature, Pop Culture, and What The Horror Genre Reveals About America
    “Show me what scares you, and I’ll show you your soul.”  In American Scary, noted cultural historian Jeremy Dauber draws a captivating through line that ties historical influences ranging from the Salem witch trials and enslaved-person narratives directly to the body of work we associate with horror today: from the taut, terrifying stories of Edgar Allan Poe to the grisly, lingering films of Jordan Peele. Jeremy Dauber is a professor of Jewish literature and American Studies at Columbia University, where he has also served as director of its Institute for Israel and Jewish Studies. Jeremy grew up in a modern Orthodox Jewish community in New Jersey; went to Harvard and then Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship, where he wrote about Hebrew and Yiddish literature – and while there, wrote the libretto for an opera that played in Boston and a movie that screened at the Cannes market (you can still find it bouncing around the lower cable channels late at night); came back to America and took a job at Columbia, where he now teaches about, among other things, Dostoevsky, Mel Brooks, graphic novels, and Sholem Aleichem. To honor Jewish American Heritage Month, we tweaked our Book 3 section and asked Dauber to tell us about three books that shaped the Jewish American Story. In our conversation, we’ll also discuss how to get started reading Yiddish literature in translation, why American Jews may channel their fears more into comedy than horror, and how writing for mainstream American culture is also a Jewish act.  Jeremy Dauber’s Five Books: 1. A Treasury of Jewish Folklore by Nathan Ausubel⁠ 2. ⁠The Book of Esther⁠ 3. Three Books That Tell the Jewish American Story: - ⁠Bread Givers by Anzia Yesierska⁠ ⁠- Rosemary’s Baby by Ira Levin⁠ ⁠- MAUS by Art Spiegelman⁠ 4. 11/22/63 by Stephen King⁠ 5. ⁠American Scary by Jeremy Dauber⁠ Other Books & Resources Mentioned: - Tevye the Dairyman by Sholem Aleichem  ⁠ - ⁠Miriam Karpilove, Diary of a Lonely Girl⁠ - ⁠The I. L. Peretz Reader⁠ - Sefaria.org⁠  - ⁠It by Stephen King⁠ - ⁠The Cafeteria by Isaac Bashevis Singer⁠ Jeremy Dauber’s Other Titles: Cultural Criticism: - ⁠American Comics: A History⁠ - ⁠Jewish Comedy: A Serious History⁠ - ⁠Mel Brooks: Disobedient Jew⁠ Yiddish Literature: - The Worlds of Sholem Aleichem: The Remarkable Life and Afterlife of the Man Who Created Tevye ⁠ - In the Demon's Bedroom: Yiddish Literature and the Early Modern⁠ - ⁠Antonio's Devils: Writers of the Jewish Enlightenment and the Birth of Modern Hebrew and Yiddish Literature⁠ - ⁠Landmark Yiddish Plays: A Critical Anthology⁠ Young Adult: - Press 1 for Invasion⁠ (PREORDER) - Mayhem and Madness: Chronicles of a Teenaged Supervillain⁠ The Five Books is a podcast that celebrates the role of books in Jewish culture. Join us every week for new Jewish book recommendations! Some of our episodes have included conversations with Yehuda Kurtzer (host of Identity/Crisis), Yael Van Der Wouden (author of The Safekeep), and Dara Horn (author of People Love Dead Jews.) ⁠Sign up for our newsletter⁠ to get new episode reminders, authors’ five book picks, and more delivered straight to your inbox. Find us on Instagram ⁠@fivebookspod ⁠or on Facebook at The Five Books Podcast For feedback or author recommendations please email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠ For transcripts etc find us online at ⁠www.fivebookspod.org ⁠ The Five Books has the advisory and promotional support of the Jewish Book Council. Jewish Book Council is a nonprofit dedicated to amplifying and celebrating Jewish literature and supporting authors and readers. Stay up to date on the latest in Jewish literature! ⁠https://www.jewishbookcouncil.org/events/celebrate⁠ The Five Books is fiscally sponsored by FJC, a 501c3 public charity.  Hosted by Tali Rosenblatt Cohen Produced by Odelia Rubin Editorial and website support by Sarah Waring Artwork by Dena Friedman Music by Dov Rosenblatt and Blue Dot Sessions.
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The Five Books celebrates the role of books in our lives. Each week we’ll talk with a Jewish author about five books in five categories.  We’ll hear about: two Jewish books that have impacted the author’s Jewish identity; one book (not necessarily Jewish) that they think everyone should read - a book that changed their worldview. We’ll get a peek into what book they're reading now, and we’ll hear the inside scoop on the new book they’ve just published. The Five Books creates a space for all listeners to explore what it means to live, write, and read as a Jewish American today.
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