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This is AI x Multilateralism, a playlist of conversations at the UN Library & Archives Geneva where we’re joined by experts who help us unpack the many ideas and issues at the nexus of AI and international cooperation.  

For this conversation we’re joined by Emily Tucker, Executive Director at the Center on Privacy & Technology and Adjunct Professor of Law, at Georgetown Law. There are many calls today to enact redlines for AI, but what about redlines for data? In this episode, we explore Emily’s work and research on what’s called datafication. She shares what this means, the impact of datafication on political participation and the public interest, and the implications for our collective capacity to create the futures we want as communities and societies. She also reflects on three priorities for data redlines, and what multilateral fora should be asking when it comes to how data is collected and used in today’s world.  

Resources:

Learn about the Center on Privacy & Technology at Georgetown Law

Read Emily's article "To Have Democracy, We Must Contest Data" on TechPolicy.Press

Consult Emily's recommendation: "Datafication", by Ulises A Mejias and Nick Couldry (open access article, UN Library & Archives Geneva)

Explore the work of The Distributed AI Research Institute, Emily's recommended open access resource.

Production:   

Guest: Emily Tucker
Host, production and editing: Natalie Alexander Julien 


Podcast Music credits:

Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/img/sequence
License code: QZDC3ZLHIU6QJTSO


#AI #ArtificialIntelligence #Data #DataRedlines #Datafication

This is AI x Multilateralism, a playlist of conversations at the UN Library & Archives Geneva where we’re joined by experts who help us unpack the many ideas and issues at the nexus of AI and international cooperation.  

For this conversation we’re joined by Emily Tucker, Executive Director at the Center on Privacy & Technology and Adjunct Professor of Law, at Georgetown Law. There are many calls today to enact redlines for AI, but what about redlines for data? In this episode, we explore Emily’s work and research on what’s called datafication. She shares what this means, the impact of datafication on political participation and the public interest, and the implications for our collective capacity to create the futures we want as communities and societies. She also reflects on three priorities for data redlines, and what multilateral fora should be asking when it comes to how data is collected and used in today’s world.  

Resources:

Learn about the Center on Privacy & Technology at Georgetown Law

Read Emily's article "To Have Democracy, We Must Contest Data" on TechPolicy.Press

Consult Emily's recommendation: "Datafication", by Ulises A Mejias and Nick Couldry (open access article, UN Library & Archives Geneva)

Explore the work of The Distributed AI Research Institute, Emily's recommended open access resource.

Production:   

Guest: Emily Tucker
Host, production and editing: Natalie Alexander Julien 


Podcast Music credits:

Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
https://uppbeat.io/t/img/sequence
License code: QZDC3ZLHIU6QJTSO


#AI #ArtificialIntelligence #Data #DataRedlines #Datafication

Professor Marilyne Andersen, Director-General of GESDA explains how anticipatory science diplomacy works: gathering scientists’ foresight, translating breakthroughs into policy and practice, and preparing society for disruptive technologies.

The episode covers GESDA’s Radar of 5–25-year futures, the Open Quantum Institute’s “Quantum for All” approach, the importance of open science and inclusivity, training for decision‑makers, and the role of art in engaging the public.

Explore the GESDA Science Breakthrough Radar®: https://radar.gesda.global/

Resources: Ask a Librarian!

Where to listen to this episode 

Apple podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy

YouTube: https://youtu.be/fSosq7RxZ2c

Content   

Guest: Marilyne Andersen https://www.gesda.global/team-member/marilyneandersen/

Hosts: Amy Smith and Wouter Schallier
Production and editing: Amy Smith

Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

This is AI x Multilateralism, a playlist of conversations at the UN Library & Archives Geneva where we’re joined by experts who help us unpack the many ideas and issues at the nexus of AI and international cooperation.  

In this episode, we're joined by Wendell Wallach, a bioethicist who's been working on the ethics and governance of emerging technologies for decades. He’s the author of two books – A Dangerous Master, and Moral Machines – and until 2024, co-led the Carnegie Council’s AI and Equality Initiative. He’s also senior advisor to The Hastings Center, and a scholar at Yale University’s Interdisciplinary Center for Bioethics, where for 11 years he chaired Technology and Ethics studies.

For this episode, we’re sharing excerpts from a wide-ranging conversation where he shares his views on the ethics and governance of AI, the continued relevance of his books on robots and technologies many years after they were first published, what we can learn from bioethics, and the urgent need for oversight to align technology with human and environmental interests.

Resources:

Read "A Framework for the International Governance of AI" - Carnegie Council's AI & Equality Initiative.

Read the new preface to "A Dangerous Master - How to Keep Technology from Slipping Beyond Our Control" by Wendell Wallach.

Visit Wendell Wallach's website.

Learn about the UN Global Dialogue on AI Governance and the Independent International Scientific Panel on AI.

Production:   

Guest: Wendell Wallach
Host, production and editing: Natalie Alexander Julien 
Editorial assistance: Amy Smith and Wouter Schallier


Podcast Music credits:

Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): 
https://uppbeat.io/t/img/sequence 
License code: 18P7IHFDKCA4SHFM


Recorded & produced at the Commons, United Nations Library & Archives Geneva 

#AI #Multilateralism #AIEthics #AIGovernance

Start Close In: Diplomacy, Technology, and the Ground Beneath Our Feet

In this episode of The Next Page, we talk with Anja Kaspersen — an IEEE director and former director of the United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs in Geneva and Deputy Secretary General of the Conference on Disarmament — about having more confident discussions on technology, and how poetry, attention, and disciplined perception can guide diplomacy in an age of emerging technologies.

Anja argues that the ground for engagement is not technical mastery but institutional literacy. She explains why diplomats should remain at the table, ask architectural questions, and translate between technical and policy worlds.

The conversation covers science diplomacy, the changing nature of arms control and dual-use technologies, the importance of redundancy, resilience, and interoperability, and the need for anticipatory governance rather than reactive responses.

Takeaways include strengthening discernment, preserving archives and institutional memory, resisting binary framings, and investing in human skills to govern technology responsibly.


Resources: Ask a Librarian!

David Whyte: https://davidwhyte.com/
Maria Popova: https://www.themarginalian.org/ 

Where to listen to this episode 

Apple podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy

YouTube: https://youtu.be/w4L1S0nhCoo

Content   

Guest: Anja Kaspersen

Hosts: Amy Smith and Wouter Schallier
Production and editing: Amy Smith

Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva