The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance

Autism is reversible, and the science to prove it already exists. This episode delivers a master class on the biological roots of autism, what actually triggers it, and the protocols that have helped real families recover their children, including one mom who sold everything she owned to make it happen.

Host Dave Asprey sits down with Tracy Slepcevic, bestselling author of Warrior Mom: A Mother's Journey in Healing Her Son with Autism, certified integrative health practitioner, Air Force veteran, and founder of Autism Health, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to accelerating biomedical solutions for autism. Tracy has spent over 17 years researching treatments and therapies for autism and other neurological disorders, trained in complementary and alternative medicine, and built the Autism Health Summit into one of the most important annual gatherings for parents, physicians, and researchers in the autism recovery space. She is not a researcher observing from a distance. She is a mother who sold everything she owned, bartered for treatments, and traveled to Ukraine for stem cell therapy to recover her son Noah, who today lives a fully independent life, works full time, and travels the world alone.

Together, Dave and Tracy tear apart the myth that autism is a fixed genetic condition and expose it for what it actually is: a biological cascade triggered by a recipe of environmental factors colliding with genetic susceptibility. They cover how mitochondrial dysfunction and chronic neuroinflammation combine to create the sensory overload and cognitive fog that defines autism, why healing the gut first is the non-negotiable foundation that determines whether every other treatment works, how glyphosate, toxic mold, heavy metals, volatile organic compounds, and vaccine injury each contribute to a compounding toxic load that crosses the threshold into autism, why plasmalogen supplements are producing results in non-speaking children that the medical establishment insists are impossible, and how AI is now accelerating the ability of parents and practitioners to identify personalized biological pathways and act on them in hours instead of months. Dave also shares his own journey reversing Asperger's syndrome over ten years through biology, mitochondrial repair, neuroplasticity retraining, and supplements, and explains why catching these conditions early and acting on them aggressively with functional medicine is the difference between a life of suffering and a life of superpowers.

You'll Learn:
Why autism is biological, not purely genetic, and what environmental triggers pull the trigger on susceptible children
How mitochondrial collapse creates the energy deficit that drives sensory overload, social withdrawal, and cognitive dysfunction in autism
Why healing the gut first determines whether every other autism treatment works or fails
What plasmalogen supplements are doing for non-speaking children and adults with neurological disorders
How glyphosate, toxic mold, heavy metals, and volatile organic compounds compound into the recipe that causes autism
Why AI is transforming the ability of autism parents to identify personalized amino acid and supplement protocols overnight
How Dave reversed Asperger's syndrome through mitochondrial repair, neuroplasticity retraining, and targeted supplements
What stem cell therapy accomplished for Tracy's son Noah within 30 days of treatment
Why genetic testing before any vaccine or medication schedule should be mandatory for every child
How to clean your home environment of the VOCs, mold, and bacterial toxins that drive neuroinflammation in the whole family
Why the gifts that come with an autism diagnosis can become genuine superpowers once the biology gets fixed

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Dave Asprey is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade brings you the knowledge to take control of your biology, extend your longevity, and optimize every system in your body and mind. Each episode delivers cutting-edge insights inhealth, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, biohacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.

New episodes are released every Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday (BONUS). Dave asks the questions no one else will and gives you real tools to become stronger, smarter, and more resilient.

Keywords: Tracy Slepcevic, Warrior Mom book, autism recovery, biomedical intervention autism, autism gut health, mitochondrial dysfunction autism, plasmalogen supplements, stem cell therapy autism, glyphosate autism, toxic mold neuroinflammation, vaccine injury autism, Autism Health Summit, heavy metals autism, neuroplasticity, biohacking, Dave Asprey, functional medicine, anti-aging, human performance, brain optimization

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Timestamps:
0:00 – Trailer
1:15 – Dave's Personal Autism Journey
4:26 – What Causes Autism
8:20 – Gut Health as the Foundation
10:14 – Tylenol, Vaccines & Toxic Exposures
12:21 – The Gifts & Superpowers of Autism
15:42 – AI, Peptides & Plasmalogen
22:06 – Mold, Lyme & Toxic Load
27:57 – Top Autism Contributors
31:04 – Cleaning Up Your Environment
33:35 – Glial Cells & Neuroinflammation
39:27 – Tracy's Story & Noah's Diagnosis
51:55 – Warrior Mom: Sacrifice & Recovery
54:08 – Vaccines & the Coverup
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Most people buying "clean" supplements are unknowingly loading their bodies with heavy metals, rancid fish oil, and glyphosate, even inside products labeled organic and healthy. This episode breaks down exactly what the supplement industry refuses to tell you and gives you the tools to stop poisoning yourself every morning.

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Host Dave Asprey sits down with Oliver Amdrup-Chamby, founder and CEO of PUORI and a serial entrepreneur in the health and wellness space with over 16 years building what has become one of the most rigorously tested supplement brands in the world. Oliver opened the first CrossFit gym in Denmark in 2006, served as Regional Director of CrossFit HQ across Europe and the Middle East, holds an Executive Program credential from Stanford, and advises longevity projects including One Thirty Labs in Copenhagen. He founded PUORI in 2009 with a single obsession: creating the cleanest third-party tested fish oil on the market. That obsession grew into a full supplement line built on batch testing every finished consumer product for environmental toxins, a standard the industry has yet to catch up to.

Together, Dave and Oliver expose the hidden contamination crisis inside the supplement industry, from oxidized fish oil that creates inflammation instead of fighting it, to plant-based protein powders carrying up to 10 times more heavy metals than whey. They break down why organic does not mean safe, how glyphosate embeds itself directly into your collagen infrastructure and disrupts the body's ability to build healthy connective tissue, and why the omega 3 index is one of the most powerful and measurable longevity biomarkers you are probably ignoring. They also dig into the surprising brain optimization and anti-aging benefits of creatine, including new research on concussion recovery and sleep deprivation, and how foundational supplements like vitamin D, magnesium, and high-quality fish oil remain the non-negotiables that no nootropic stack can replace.

You'll Learn:
Why organic protein powder often contains more heavy metals than non-organic options
How glyphosate infiltrates collagen and gets rebuilt into your body's own tissue
What the omega 3 index is, why most Americans are dangerously low, and how raising it correlates with years of additional longevity
Why plant-based omega 3s fail to convert to DHA and what to take instead
How oxidized fish oil creates inflammation rather than reducing it, and what to look for on the label
Why vitamin D deficiency persists even with regular sun exposure and how genetics affect your required dose
The creatine research that has longevity doctors and neuroscientists paying attention for the first time
How foundational supplements support mitochondria, metabolism, and long-term resilience in ways that trendy biohacking stacks cannot replicate
What to look for in a clean supplement brand and why third-party batch testing of finished goods is the only standard that matters


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Dave Asprey is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade brings you the knowledge to take control of your biology, extend your longevity, and optimize every system in your body and mind. Each episode delivers cutting-edge insights inhealth, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, biohacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.

New episodes are released every Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday (BONUS). Dave asks the questions no one else will and gives you real tools to become stronger, smarter, and more resilient.

Keywords: Oliver Amdrup-Chamby, PUORI supplements, fish oil oxidation, omega 3 index, heavy metals protein powder, glyphosate collagen, organic protein powder toxins, foundational supplements, creatine brain health, vitamin D deficiency, clean label testing, longevity supplements, biohacking, Dave Asprey, anti-aging, human performance, functional medicine, supplement transparency, plant-based protein heavy metals, whey protein

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Timestamps:
0:00 – Trailer
0:47 – Introduction
2:19 – Foundational vs. Sexy Supplements
4:33 – Omega-3 Index Explained
5:45 – Vegan Omega-3s & DHA
7:39 – Fish Oil Oxidation
8:48 – Batch Testing & Industry Transparency
16:03 – Storing Fish Oil Properly
17:30 – Vitamin D, Magnesium & Fish Oil Stack
19:11 – Vitamin D Dosing & Genetics
21:34 – RDAs & Government Nutrition Advice
23:06 – Glyphosate in the U.S. Food Supply
26:40 – Heavy Metals in Fish Oil
37:44 – Protein Powders & Heavy Metals
45:52 – Creatine for Brain & Concussion
48:48 – TrueDark & Brain Recovery
51:24 – Brain Scanning
53:58 – Toxins in Plant vs. Animal Protein
56:30 – Collagen: Sourcing & Glyphosate Risk
1:02:26 – Outro & PUORI Discount
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I have spent 20 years and over $2 million testing my biology, and the biggest lesson I've learned is that sleep is a neurological system, not just a chemical one. Most people fail to get deep rest because they are stuck in Beta brainwaves—a state of hypervigilance fueled by stress and blue light. You can take all the melatonin in the world, but if your brain is electrically "awake," you will stay "tired but wired."

The "switch" I use to fix this is an amino acid called L-theanine. It crosses the blood-brain barrier to increase Alpha waves, which quiet the prefrontal cortex and stop overthinking. By boosting GABA and lowering glutamate, it prepares the brain for rest without the groggy "hangover" of traditional sedatives.

To make this work, I follow a strict protocol: taking 400mg–1000mg about 45 minutes before bed on an empty stomach. I also protect my "Alpha state" by blocking blue and green "junk light" with TrueDark glasses, which prevents cortisol spikes that ruin sleep architecture. When you combine the right compounds with a dark, low-stimulation environment and consistent timing, sleep stops being something you chase and becomes something your body does automatically.

Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction
00:23 – How the Brain Enters Sleep
01:00 – Why Most Supplements Fail
02:15 – Beta Waves: The Sleep Blocker
03:29 – Alpha Waves: The Sleep Gateway
04:51 – The Amino Acid That Shifts Your Brain
06:11 – Introducing L-Theanine
06:48 – Common L-Theanine Mistakes
08:02 – The Right Protocol
09:34 – Light & Your Sleep Environment
11:13 – Fixing Your Light Environment
12:14 – The Full Sleep System
13:59 – Putting It All Together

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Your brain is hardware, and if the hardware is broken, no supplement stack, nootropic, or biohacking protocol in the world will get you to full capacity. This episode goes inside the most advanced stem cell and brain optimization clinic on the planet, where Host Dave Asprey undergoes a cutting-edge neurocognitive protocol that combines focused ultrasound, transcranial magnetic stimulation, and mesenchymal stem cells to target specific regions of the brain with millimeter precision.

- Watch this episode on YouTube for the full video experience: https://www.youtube.com/@DaveAspreyBPR
- Learn more about all the treatments at RMI by visiting: https://daveasprey.com/rmi/

Dr. Victor Urzola is a plastic and reconstructive surgeon with training from the University of Milan, microsurgery credentials from University Henri Poincare in France, and fellowship experience in facial aesthetic surgery and body contouring on both sides of the Atlantic. He is the former president of the Costa Rican Society of Plastic Surgery and holds membership in the Italian, European, and American societies of plastic and aesthetic surgery. As co-founder of RMI Clinic in Costa Rica, Dr. Urzola has spent years pushing the frontier of regenerative medicine, applying the rigor of academic surgical training to stem cell therapy, neurocognitive protocols, and longevity treatments that most clinics in the world are not yet attempting.

Dave and Dr. Urzola break down how neuroinflammation silently degrades cognitive function the same way joint inflammation destroys athletic performance, and why treating the brain like a biological system you can upgrade changes everything. They cover the full RMI longevity protocol Dave completed in Costa Rica, including the neurocognitive brain upgrade, plasmapheresis for full-body anti-aging, orthopedic stem cell joint repair, and yes, the enhanced protocol Dave has become known for discussing without apology.

This is next-level biohacking and regenerative medicine for anyone serious about brain optimization, longevity, and upgrading every system in the body before problems become permanent.

You'll Learn:
How RMI uses functional MRI, neuronavigation, and focused ultrasound to target hypofunctioning brain regions with millimeter accuracy
Why neuroplasticity and cognitive recovery in dementia patients improved after just 15 days of treatment
How plasmapheresis removes pro-inflammatory mediators and toxins from your entire vascular system and why Dave does it annually
What shockwave therapy combined with stem cell injection accomplishes for both men and women in ways pharmacological treatment cannot
Why cell viability and placement matter more than raw cell count, and how RMI measures both 10 minutes before every injection
How orthopedic stem cell protocols achieve 82.5 percent improvement in joint function across 8,000 treated joints
Why Dave calls RMI the best hardware upgrade available and 40 Years of Zen the best software upgrade, and how the two work together
What the difference feels like between going from standard resolution to 4K inside your own brain

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Dave Asprey is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade brings you the knowledge to take control of your biology, extend your longevity, and optimize every system in your body and mind. Each episode delivers cutting-edge insights inhealth, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, biohacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.

New episodes are released every Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday (BONUS). Dave asks the questions no one else will and gives you real tools to become stronger, smarter, and more resilient.

Keywords: Victor Urzola, RMI Clinic Costa Rica, stem cell therapy, brain optimization, neurocognitive protocol, focused ultrasound, transcranial magnetic stimulation, neuroinflammation, plasmapheresis, orthopedic stem cells, mesenchymal stem cells, blood brain barrier, regenerative medicine, anti-aging, longevity, biohacking, Dave Asprey, erectile dysfunction treatment, stem cell facelift, human performance

Resources:
• Learn More About All Of The Treatments at RMI by visiting: https://daveasprey.com/rmi/
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• Danger Coffee: https://dangercoffee.com/discount/dave15
• My Daily Supplements: SuppGrade Labs (15% Off)
• Favorite Blue Light Blocking Glasses: TrueDark (15% Off)
• Dave Asprey’s BEYOND Conference: https://beyondconference.com
• Dave Asprey’s New Book – Heavily Meditated: https://daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated
• Join My Substack (Live Access To Podcast Recordings): https://substack.daveasprey.com/
• Upgrade Labs: https://upgradelabs.com

Timestamps:
00:00 – Trailer
01:02 – Introduction and RMI Overview
03:02 – Cognitive Protocol Explained
05:39 – Dave's Brain Treatment Experience
13:08 – RMI Results & Patient Outcomes
15:32 – Plasmapheresis (Blood Cleanse)
17:10 – Orthopedic Stem Cell Treatments
23:49 – Enhanced Protocol (Sexual Health – Men)
25:29 – Sexual Health – Women
27:40 – Facial Stem Cell Treatment
30:05 – Closing & Resources
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What if the real reason you feel stuck, anxious, or unfulfilled has nothing to do with your biohacking stack and everything to do with which half of your brain you're actually using? In this episode, Host Dave Asprey sits down with Harvard professor and bestselling author Arthur Brooks to reveal the neuroscience of meaning, consciousness, and why your left brain's obsession with optimization is quietly destroying your happiness and human performance.

-Watch this episode on YouTube for the full video experience: https://www.youtube.com/@DaveAspreyBPR
- Buy Arthur’s new book “The Meaning Of Your Life” at: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/724315/the-meaning-of-your-life-by-arthur-c-brooks/

Arthur Brooks is a professor at both the Harvard Kennedy School and Harvard Business School, where he teaches leadership and happiness. He writes the wildly popular "How to Build a Life" column at The Atlantic, hosts the weekly podcast "Office Hours with Arthur Brooks," and has authored 15 books, including two number one New York Times bestsellers: Build the Life You Want with Oprah Winfrey, and From Strength to Strength. His new book, The Meaning of Your Life: Finding Purpose in an Age of Emptiness, releases March 31, 2026. Brooks is one of the world's foremost experts on the science of human happiness.

Dave and Arthur go deep on hemispheric lateralization, the rediscovered neuroscience showing your right brain holds everything that makes life worth living: meaning, mystery, consciousness, and the ineffable experiences that no AI, no nootropic, and no amount of fasting or sleep optimization can manufacture for you. They break down why the depression and anxiety epidemic is really a right-brain deficiency crisis, and why all the supplements, ketosis protocols, and functional medicine hacks in the world won't fix it if you're living entirely in your left hemisphere.

This is a rare episode that bridges hard neuroscience with the deepest questions of human existence. Whether you're deep into anti-aging, neuroplasticity training, or Smarter Not Harder living, this conversation will change how you think about what you're actually optimizing for.

You'll Learn:
Why the mental health crisis is fundamentally a meaning crisis, and what your brain hemispheres have to do with it
How technology, AI, and screen culture are suppressing the right hemisphere and wiring you for anxiety
The six scientifically backed ways to open your right brain and unlock experiences of real meaning
Why self-improvement fails without first understanding the neuroscience of how ideas install in the brain
How suffering, handled correctly, is the single most powerful path to consciousness and purpose
Why romantic love, beauty, and deep conversation are forms of neurological medicine
What Dave's $2.5 million biohacking journey taught him about the limits of optimization
The Buddhist physics of suffering: pain times resistance, and how to lower the resistance instead of the pain


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Dave Asprey is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade brings you the knowledge to take control of your biology, extend your longevity, and optimize every system in your body and mind. Each episode delivers cutting-edge insights inhealth, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, biohacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.

New episodes are released every Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday (BONUS). Dave asks the questions no one else will and gives you real tools to become stronger, smarter, and more resilient.

Keywords: Arthur Brooks, Harvard happiness research, meaning of life, hemispheric lateralization, right brain left brain, brain optimization, neuroplasticity, consciousness neuroscience, mental health crisis, depression anxiety solutions, human performance, self-improvement science, longevity mindset, biohacking happiness, Dave Asprey, functional medicine, suffering and purpose, AI limits, meaning and purpose, How to Build a Life

Resources:
• Buy Arthur’s new book “The Meaning Of Your Life” at: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/724315/the-meaning-of-your-life-by-arthur-c-brooks/
• Get My 2026 Clean Nicotine Roadmap | Enroll for free at https://daveasprey.com/2026-clean-nicotine-roadmap/
• Dave Asprey's Latest News | Go to https://daveasprey.com/ to join Inside Track today.
• Danger Coffee: https://dangercoffee.com/discount/dave15
• My Daily Supplements: SuppGrade Labs (15% Off)
• Favorite Blue Light Blocking Glasses: TrueDark (15% Off)
• Dave Asprey’s BEYOND Conference: https://beyondconference.com
• Dave Asprey’s New Book – Heavily Meditated: https://daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated
• Join My Substack (Live Access To Podcast Recordings): https://substack.daveasprey.com/
• Upgrade Labs: https://upgradelabs.com

Timestamps:
00:00 – Trailer
00:49 – Introduction
02:09 – Teaching & Learning Science
07:05 – Consciousness & Brain Hemispheres
18:51 – Mental Health & Meaning Crisis
20:08 – 6 Ways to Open the Right Brain
21:44 – Deep Questions & Life's Purpose
27:16 – Romantic Love & Relationships
34:37 – Transcendence & Self
41:18 – Finding Your Calling
49:33 – Beauty
53:41 – Suffering & Meaning
57:20 – Closing
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