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    Molly Sims on Midlife Confidence (That Doesn’t Come From Perfection)

    2026-04-29 | 1h 6 mins.
    Description:This week, Jen and Amy sit down with actress, model, entrepreneur, and Lipstick on the Rim host Molly Sims for a conversation that starts light and breezy—backstage at a Hello Sunshine Shine Away event—and quickly moves into something deeper: what it’s like to live in a body that’s been watched, evaluated, and monetized for decades… and how your relationship to that body inevitably changes over time.

    Molly has spent most of her life being seen. But what she shares here is what it’s taken to actually see herself.

    Today, the discussion centers around the quiet (and sometimes jarring) shift into midlife. Molly opens up about figuring it out in real time, what surprised her most about this chapter, and the unexpected places where things have gotten easier.

    There’s also an honest look at what it means to keep showing up in an industry with very loud opinions about women’s bodies—and how Molly now navigates beauty, skincare, procedures, and wellness without losing herself in the process. Where’s the line between empowerment and pressure? And who gets to decide?

    But this conversation doesn’t stay theoretical. It lands in real life—in marriage, in motherhood, in the everyday negotiations of confidence and insecurity, and in the intentional ways Molly is trying to give her daughter a different starting point than the one she was handed.

    Along the way, the discussion turns to influence, identity, and the kinds of conversations Molly is creating now that she wasn’t having earlier in her career. And in one of the most tender moments of the episode, she reflects on what she would say to her younger self—not to fix her, but just to sit beside her with a little more perspective.

    This one feels like sitting across from someone who’s done a lot of living—and is finally comfortable telling the truth about it.

    Thought-provoking Quotes:


    “To be in on something from the inception has given me a lot of fire to keep going.” – Molly Sims


    “My resilient wall of armor is very strong. I've been told I'm too fat, I'm too tall, I'm too dark, I'm too blonde. Sometimes shit needs to go wrong to give you that, okay, let's cry ourselves out of this hole and pull ourselves out.” – Molly Sims


    “To be in your forties and not have the energy of being in your twenties is a lot. It’s a lot. It’s a lot.” – Molly Sims


    “In my fifties, I’m more confident, I’m calmer, and I can handle a lot. But, I get tired.” – Molly Sims

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode:


    Raygun What The Hell Is Going On Here Tee - https://www.raygunsite.com/collections/home-page-special/products/what-the-hell


    Hello Sunshine Shine Away Event - https://hello-sunshine.com/shineaway-2/ 


    YSE BEAUTY - https://www.ysebeauty.com/  |  Get a 15% discount at YSE Beauty using the code FORTHELOVE15. Exclusions apply. 


    Lipstick on the Rim podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lipstick-on-the-rim/id1560226129


    Baby CO2 Laser Treatment


    Xtreme Glow Dewey Peptide Plumping Serum - https://www.ysebeauty.com/products/xtreme-glow-serum


    Organic Immune Bloom Jellies - https://greencompassglobal.com/products/immune-bloom


    Weleda Skin Food - https://amzn.to/41ARQn8


    Microneedling with PRP

    Guest’s Links:

    Website - https://www.mollysims.com

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mollybsims

    Twitter - https://x.com/MollyBSims

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MollySimsOfficial/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/mollysims

    TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@mollybsims

    Substack - https://mollysims.substack.com/

    Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lipstick-on-the-rim/id1560226129

    Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

    Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

    Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

    The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy. 


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    We Will Not Be Aging Quietly: Claiming Your Most Powerful Season with Katie Fogarty

    2026-04-22 | 51 mins.
    We Will Not Be Aging Quietly: Claiming Your Most Powerful Season with Katie Fogarty

    Description:

    What if the years everyone warned you about turned out to be the ones you'd been waiting for?

    Today, Jen and Amy sit down with Katie Fogarty—a former journalist, career coach, and the voice behind one of the most vibrant midlife podcasts in the country, called A Certain Age—for an honest, energizing hour about what it really means to thrive in this season.

    Katie launched A Certain Age thirty-five days before her 51st birthday with one mission: blow up the narrative that women become less relevant as they get older. Five years and 230-plus episodes later, she's interviewed hundreds of midlife women—and she has thoughts. Big ones.

    They dig into the myths about midlife that refuse to die, why Katie calls this season an "accelerant" rather than an obstacle, what it looks like when women stop waiting for permission and start claiming their lives—and what she's hearing that gives her real hope for the women coming behind us.

    If you've ever felt like midlife was quietly trying to make you smaller—this episode is your push back.

    Thought-provoking Quotes:


    “Sometimes the word ‘reinventing’ implies we're completely changing our lives and getting rid of everything that came before. It's more about reimagining, because we're drawing on all of our expertise to apply it in new ways, big and small.” – Katie Fogarty


    “Midlife is that moment where you say, let me get going. The kids are grown, the career maybe is established, life is sort of on track, moving forward, and we have this moment with space in our brain, maybe on our calendar, to actually hit go on whatever it is we've been thinking about for so long.” – Katie Fogarty


    “If you are feeling disconnected from relationships, or like you're not being supported, find people that you are visible to. There are communities of people out there who care about what you care about, who want to see you, who will see you.” – Katie Fogarty

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode:


    Jen’s first colonoscopy - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWz8nTvgo6p/


    Sophie Grégoire Trudeau on Life, Emotional Regulation and Midlife Reinventions - https://www.acertainagepod.com/shows/sophie-grgoire-trudeau-on-life-emotional-regulation-and-midlife-reinventions


    Tamsen Fadal - https://www.tamsenfadal.com/


    Grown Woman Talk: Your Guide to Getting and Staying Healthy by Dr. Sharon Malone - https://amzn.to/4t14kQY


    The New Perimenopause: What’s Actually Happening to Your Body with Dr. Mary Claire Haver - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-64/the-new-perimenopause-whats-actually-happening-to-your-body-with-dr-mary-claire-haver/


    When Life Happens: The Mindset Shift You Need to Manage Stress, Build Confidence, and Break Free by Dr. Rachel Goldman - https://amzn.to/4mnvZsY


    Midlife Private Parts: Revealing Essays That Will Change the Way You Think About Age - https://www.midlifeprivateparts.com/


    The Midlife Book Club - https://www.themidlifebookclub.com/about


    Jen Hatmaker Book Club - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/collections/book-club


    Sandwich by Catherine Newman - https://amzn.to/3QauFNM


    Same As It Ever Was by Claire Lombardo - https://amzn.to/4mkK8XI


    The Grand Paloma Resort: A Novel by Cleyvis Natera - https://amzn.to/4meEQNi


    The Secret Book Society by Madeline Martin - https://amzn.to/47MkGnX

    Guest’s Links:

    Website - https://www.acertainagepod.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/acertainagepod/

    Podcast - https://www.acertainagepod.com/episodes

    Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

    Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

    Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

    The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.


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    [ENCORE] Your Body Deserves Pleasure Too: A Conversation with Vanessa Marin

    2026-04-17 | 59 mins.
    Description:If any conversation belongs squarely in our “The Body Knows: Midlife In Our Skin” series, it’s this one, and for one simple reason — pleasure is a body conversation. Desire is a body conversation. And if midlife has shifted how you feel in your own skin, this episode meets you exactly there.

    Vanessa Marin is a licensed psychotherapist, sex educator, and bestselling author of Sex Talks: The Five Conversations That Will Transform Your Love Life, co-written with her husband Xander. With over two decades of experience helping people dismantle shame and build genuinely intimate relationships, Vanessa brings the kind of candid, warm, and disarmingly funny voice this conversation has always needed.

    Whether you're partnered or solo, whether your sex life feels complicated or just quietly neglected, whether you're carrying shame you never asked for — this one is for you. Vanessa is here to help us say yes to communication, to connection, and maybe most of all, to pleasure.

    Here's what we're getting into:


    Why so many of us have deeply wired, shame-rooted reactions to sex — and where they actually come from


    Why Vanessa says you should start having sex like a man (yes, really)


    The myth about the female orgasm that most of us were never taught the truth about


    The best things you can do for your sex life that have nothing to do with taking your clothes off


    The difference between spontaneous and responsive desire — and why understanding this might change everything

    Thought-provoking Quotes:


    “Despite not getting a great introduction to sex or intimacy or relationships, I had this intuitive sense that there should be joy with this act. There should be connection and intimacy, and it should be something I should feel excited to explore when the time is right.” – Vanessa Marin


    “This is literally what I am here on this earth for, is to help people get more comfortable talking about sex, connection, and intimacy.” – Vanessa Marin


    “A lot of people hear, she's a sex therapist. They must have this incredible sex life. The reality is, we've been through ups and downs, too. I am not immune to the water that we all have been swimming in. I've internalized plenty of crap myself. And so I want people to understand we are all struggling to keep that spark alive in one way or another. We are all struggling with our sex lives, with our bodies in one way or another.” – Vanessa Marin


    Research has shown that in male-female relationships, women are carrying the vast majority of the mental load. There is so much that is going through our heads on a daily basis—all this tracking, and preparing, and anticipating, and evaluating, our heads are just constantly going. And when you have so much in your brain, it makes it really hard to make the space for intimacy and desire too.” – Vanessa Marin

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode:


    Sex Talks: The Five Conversations That Will Transform Your Love Life by Vanessa Marin and Xander Marin - https://amzn.to/43VSwnS


    The Sex Talks Card Deck and Guidebook: 90 Prompts to Deepen Connection and Spark Intimacy - https://amzn.to/3Hys1xa


    Vanessa and Xander’s Deeper Monthly Membership - https://buy.vmtherapy.com/deeper

    Guest’s Links:

    Website - https://vmtherapy.com/about

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/vanessaandxander/

    Twitter - https://x.com/VMTherapy

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/vanessaandxander/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/vanessamarin

    TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@vanessaandxander

    Pinterest - https://www.pinterest.com/vanessaandxander/_created/

    Podcast - https://vmtherapy.com/podcast/ 

    Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

    Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

    Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

    The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy. 


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    Fertility Is a Health Marker: The Bigger Picture of Hormones and Women’s Health with Dr. Natalie Crawford

    2026-04-15 | 1h 3 mins.
    Description:This week, Jen and Amy sit down with double board-certified OB-GYN and reproductive endocrinologist Dr. Natalie Crawford, author of The Fertility Formula, for a wide-ranging conversation about hormones, inflammation, stress, and the powerful (and often misunderstood) signals our bodies are constantly sending.

    While Dr. Crawford’s work is rooted in fertility, this episode zooms out to something much bigger: how hormone health reflects our overall well-being — and why midlife is often the moment when the body stops whispering and starts speaking clearly.

    But this conversation isn’t just for women trying to get pregnant.

    It’s for women in perimenopause and menopause wondering what their bodies are doing now — and why. Because fertility is more than reproduction; it’s a health marker. The same patterns that shape our fertility years — inflammation, hormone signaling, metabolic health, stress — also influence how we experience menopause, what symptoms show up, and what kinds of support our bodies will need.

    And it’s also for women stepping into the grandparent years — who want to better understand what their daughters, daughters-in-law, and younger women in their lives are navigating. Because the more we understand our own bodies, the more compassion and clarity we bring to the next generation.

    Together, they unpack:


    Why your menstrual cycle (even in its changes) is one of your most important health indicators


    Natalie’s experience with pregnancy loss and how it shaped her approach to women’s health


    The effects of societal and political shifts on women’s reproductive choices


    How cycle awareness can support both fertility outcomes and menopause transitions

    Whether or not you are thinking about fertility — or are long past that season — this conversation reframes it as something more expansive: a reflection of vitality, resilience, and how supported your body truly feels across every stage of life.

    Thought-provoking Quotes:


    “We’re living in a different era now, luckily, where women are demanding more knowledge about their bodies.” – Dr. Natalie Crawford


    “I think that my own experience reframed how I educate my patients and the public in taking charge and learning how to listen to your body and believe it. What are those little red flags—whether it's my cycle, whether it's symptoms, whether it's fatigue, and how do I get answers or try to modify those so that I can have more control over what is happening to me?” – Dr. Natalie Crawford


    “Anybody who's trying to sell you a quick fix, especially if it comes in a bottle, is most likely not in your best interest. That doesn't mean there aren't medications or supplements that can help, but that comes after you've done what you can do.” – Dr. Natalie Crawford

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode:


    The Fertility Formula: Take Control of Your Reproductive Future by Dr. Natalie Crawford – https://amzn.to/47HZ1NR


    The New Perimenopause: What’s Actually Happening to Your Body with Dr. Mary Claire Haver - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-64/the-new-perimenopause-whats-actually-happening-to-your-body-with-dr-mary-claire-haver/


    Fora Fertility Clinic– https://www.forafertility.com/

    Guest’s Links:

    Website - https://www.nataliecrawfordmd.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/nataliecrawfordmd/

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/nataliecrawfordmd/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/c/NatalieCrawfordMD/videos

    TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@nataliecrawfordmd

    Substack - https://substack.com/@nataliecrawfordmd

    Podcast - https://www.nataliecrawfordmd.com/podcast

    Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

    Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

    Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

    The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.


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    March 2026 JHBC: Allen Levi’s Theo of Golden

    2026-04-10 | 48 mins.
    Description:Some stories feel less like books and more like quiet companions. Theo of Golden is one of those.

    This month in the Jen Hatmaker Book Club, Jen sits down with author Allen Levi to talk about the small-town novel that has quietly captured the hearts of readers around the world. Set in the fictional town of Golden, Georgia, the story introduces us to Theo — a mysterious newcomer whose little shop becomes an unlikely gathering place for the people around him. As neighbors wander in carrying grief, questions, regrets, and ordinary Tuesdays, something remarkable begins to happen: lives shift, wounds soften, and the quiet work of grace unfolds in the most unexpected ways.

    But Allen’s path to writing Theo of Golden is a story of its own.

    Before this book found its way into readers’ hands, Allen spent decades living another life — as a litigator and as a musician and songwriter, telling stories in courtrooms and through songs long before he ever sat down to write a novel. In this conversation, Jen and Allen talk about how those two worlds — law and music — shaped the storyteller he would eventually become, and how the long arc of a creative life sometimes leads us somewhere we never expected.

    Together, Jen and Allen talk about the beauty of slow stories, the sacredness hiding in ordinary places, and why the most transformative moments in life rarely arrive with fanfare. They explore the characters of Golden, the themes of redemption and belonging woven through the book, and the deeper invitation at the heart of Theo’s story — to pay attention to the people and moments right in front of us.

    If you’ve ever believed that kindness still matters, that communities can heal one conversation at a time, or that ordinary lives are full of extraordinary grace, this conversation will feel like coming home.

    Grab your coffee, pull up a chair, and join Jen and Allen Levi for a conversation about stories, second acts, and the quiet magic that happens when people really see one another.

    Thought-provoking Quotes:


    “All through the writing of the book, I cried and cried and I'm not an easy crier, but I fell in love with these characters. They still kind of inhabit the space around me. But it told me that there was something bigger going on than just the story. Maybe the better angels of our nature are waking up and bringing something to the surface that maybe is good for us. I hope so.” – Allen Levi


    “I have heard, if you want to write, you just sit down with a pen and you start writing and the story will bubble up. And so I did that and the story never bubbled up. It just frustrated me and frustrated me. That's why I quit so many times, but eventually it started coming together almost like writing a song.” – Allen Levi


    “Everything that I've done professionally has required me to use words to tell stories, usually to persuade people. As a lawyer, I did that. As a singer songwriter, I did that. And now as a novelist.”– Allen Levi

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode:


    Theo of Golden: A Novel by Allen Levi - https://amzn.to/47J6V9p


    Allen Levi’s Music - https://open.spotify.com/artist/2UaP04apWp23PxnhKQHJgx?si=3tzeCi3HROqRampni92Dew


    Jen Hatmaker Book Club - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/collections/book-club


    Alan Bradley - https://alanbradleyauthor.com/


    The Flavia de Luce series by Alan Bradley - https://amzn.to/412lNMm

    Guest’s Links:

    Website - https://www.allenlevi.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/allenlevi/

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/allen.levi.31/

    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQa2G5Ym0pyNnnK0nocxZ3Q

    Substack - https://substack.com/@allenclevi

    Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

    Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

    Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

    The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy. 


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About For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

New York Times bestselling author Jen Hatmaker and her longtime friend, Amy Hardin, have arrived in the middle years — and they couldn’t be happier about it.  Each has navigated the ins and outs of life — from careers, to parenting, marriage (and, for Jen, divorce), spiritual evolution, and the joys of being hardcore Gen Xers. With each weekly episode, Jen and Amy serve as our “everywoman” guides to all the seasons — past, present, and future — as they walk excitedly and tenaciously into the second half of life. While Jen and Amy have plenty of wisdom to share — and some pretty hilarious stories, too — they don’t claim to know it all. That's why they invite some of the most interesting and accomplished guests to the podcast, bringing insight, expertise, and understanding to the most relevant topics of our time. From Jen and Amy’s compelling conversations with guests to their witty banter (and the occasional eye-rolls at the absurdities of life), they’re here reassure you that you’re not alone in this game of life.  It’s “For the Love” of all that is good, justified, exasperating, exhilarating, real, fun — and so much more.

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