Love to See It with Emma and Claire

(Trigger Warning: Domestic violence) If you or someone you know has been impacted by domestic violence, you can call 800-799-7233, or text BEGIN to 88788. Please listen to this episode with care. On Thursday afternoon, in the wake of some pretty horrifying video footage of a 2023 domestic incident between Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen, Disney announced that it would not be moving forward with the 22nd season of “The Bachelorette.” In this episode, we talk through the lead-up to the cancellation and the fallout, the era of “messy” women on reality TV, the network’s culpability in all of this, and our own. We tried to be as thoughtful, nuanced and responsible as possible in this discussion, and hold a lot of hard truths at once.

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It’s almost time for Taylor Frankie Paul’s journey on “The Bachelorette” to officially begin, which means that it’s time for us to dive into the cast bios. Twenty-two strapping men who fall broadly into the categories of Former Athlete, Surf Guy, Cowboy and self-proclaimed Mama’s Boy (with a side of Dakota Mortensen lookalikes), will be wooing TFP. And turns out, we had a lot to say about them, despite knowing very little. We also discuss the “Bachelorette” reunion / season preview that aired after The Oscars, as well as the social media rollout of the official cast announcements. This season might end up being a trainwreck, but it absolutely won’t be boring.

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The latest ‘Love Is Blind’ reunion brought together pod squads past and present, so Vanessa could celebrate “our marrieds” and the growing “LIB” baby boom. But the focus was on this season’s drama – and there was plenty of it. A very red-faced, bob-haired Chris tried to repair, or at least not do further damage to, his image. A polo-shirt-wearing Alex tried to out-lawyer Ashley and the hosts. Amber and Jordan air their grievances. Devonta has some big news – and not just that he’s living with Alex in Austin. But we also do get some bright spots: Jess hard-launches a new relationship, Vic and Christine give the most pure marital updates, and one couple who seemed to break up reveals that they are in fact still together! And perhaps the brightest spot of all: The Lacheys finally learned to ask some follow-up questions.

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It’s wedding time on “Love Is Blind”! Five couples are marriage-bound when the day dawns, but by reception hour, just two to four (depending on how you read it) are still standing. We finally get Mike’s answer to Emma’s “I do,” and head into two deeply ominous weddings – including the franchise’s first ceremony fueled purely by mutual hatred – as well as a pre-altar, one-sided break-up. Finally, we get a taste of romance, as the finale concludes with one purely happy marriage. We also dive into some pod squad gossip at the top of the episode, including Alex’s public apology to Tim Howard and more uncomfortable revelations about Devonta’s relationship history.

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In this grab bag bonus episode, we dip into some thoughts on the “Traitors” reunion, including Candiace’s dubious insinuation that Rob cheated and Colton’s moment in the hot seat. Then we turn to “Love Is Blind,” catching up with two of our favorite ladies from this season, Emma Betsinger and Jessica Barrett, who each have a lot to say about some of the most controversial and shocking moments from their storylines. Emma weighs in on the (at times harsh!) audience reaction to her maternal ambivalence, and Jess reacts to some post-filming revelations about Chris and tells us what she thinks was really going on when he told her he usually dates women who “go to pilates every day.”

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