That Said with Talia Schlanger

What do fathers pass down to their children—and what does it take to break the patterns we inherit?
This week, Talia Schlanger speaks with filmmaker Hubert Davis about his new hockey film Youngblood, a story about a gifted young player and his complicated relationship with his demanding “hockey dad.” Davis reflects on masculinity, fatherhood, the expectations we place on young men, and the lessons he inherited from his own father, a Harlem Globetrotter. He also talks about his documentary Black Ice, his longtime friendship with filmmaker Charles Officer, and the importance of seeing new stories and perspectives represented in hockey.
Then, for Article Club, The Atlantic staff writer Faith Hill joins Talia to discuss her article The Growing Cohort of Single Dads by Choice. They explore why some men are deliberately choosing fatherhood without a partner, what this growing trend reveals about changing ideas of masculinity, and why fatherhood can offer men a powerful sense of purpose and fulfillment.
Two conversations about fatherhood, masculinity, identity, and the stories we inherit—and the ones we choose to change.

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What can the animals living alongside us teach us about the future of our planet? Author and social epidemiologist Dan Werb joins Talia Schlanger to discuss his bestselling book Our Wild Familiars: How Animals Are Adapting to Cities and Reshaping the Natural World. From raccoons to rats to coyotes to baboons, Dan explores the surprising ways animals are adapting to human environments—and why understanding them may be essential to conservation, climate resilience, and our own survival. Together, they examine what city-dwelling wildlife reveals about the changing relationship between humans and the natural world.
And for Article Club, Talia talks to behavioural neuroscientist Kelly Lambert about her article on Jimothy, the raccoon who captured the internet's attention after surviving against extraordinary odds. Using Jimothy's story as a starting point, Kelly explores animal intelligence, resilience, and the remarkable role mothers play in helping young animals navigate the challenges of life in the wild.

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What does it take to become the fastest person on Earth? Olympic champion and world-record holder Donovan Bailey joins Talia Schlanger to reflect on the 30 year anniversary of the race that made history, the rivalries that fueled him, and the mindset required to perform under extraordinary pressure. Donovan shares what he learned from competing at the highest level of sport and why the pursuit of speed continues to captivate us.
And for Article Club, Talia talks to WIRED contributing editor Brendan Koerner about his reporting on the teenage track stars redefining what's possible on the track. From record-breaking performances to advances in training and technology, Brendan explores how a new generation of athletes is pushing the limits of human speed. Together, they examine our enduring fascination with going faster and ask just how much room there is left to run.

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For decades, comedian Margaret Cho has used humor to talk about the things many people struggle to say out loud. Margaret joins Talia Schlanger for a candid conversation about body image, disordered eating, aging, and the pressures placed on women to look a certain way. She reflects on her experiences in the entertainment industry, the complicated relationship many people have with their bodies, and what she learned from her friendship with Robin Williams—including the hidden pain that can exist behind a public persona.
And for Article Club, Talia talks to writer Courtney Shea about her feature for Macleans Magazine called “The End of Fat” which looks at the massive popularity of GLP-1s. As these medications transform the conversation around weight loss, Courtney explores the cultural, ethical, and social questions they raise. Together, they discuss what happens in a world where thinness becomes more attainable than ever—and whether changing our bodies can change the way we see ourselves.

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Can a comedy show feel more like summer camp? Comedian, writer, and The Daily Show correspondent Josh Johnson joins Talia Schlanger to talk about the live experience he created to bring fans together through comedy, music, and community. Josh reflects on hosting The Daily Show, keeping up with his massively popular YouTube channel, writing jokes in an age of constant outrage, and why he approaches even the most divisive topics with curiosity. Together, they explore the value of paying attention to the news, to each other, and to the world around us. He
And for Article Club, Talia talks to writer and camp director Violet Piper about her Slate article “I Run a Summer Camp. I Can Tell You Right Now That You're Ruining Your Kid's Summer.” Drawing on her own experience this summer, Violet explains how constant communication and parental anxiety can get in the way of the very growth camp is meant to foster. Together, they discuss independence, unstructured play, life without smartphones, and what exactly parents are getting wrong about camp.

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