This Strange Land

In this episode of This Strange Land, Jason sits down with physiotherapist Robbie de Fleuriot to explore the profound connection between the body, trauma, and spiritual healing. Together they examine how pain, posture, and the nervous system carry our stories, why modern culture often disconnects us from embodiment, and how healing the body can become a pathway into deeper discipleship. A wide-ranging conversation on presence, trauma, theology of the body, and what it means to live integrated lives as followers of Jesus in an overstimulated world.
Guest Bio
Robbie de Fleuriot is a physiotherapist and the founder of Fort Sport +Family Physio in Fort Langley, British Columbia. He works with individuals to understand pain, injury, and healing through a whole-person lens, integrating the body’s story with physical, psychological, and relational experience. Robbie has a particular interest in trauma, understanding anxiety, embodiment, and how physical healing can support deeper presence and integration. He lives in the Lower Mainland with his wife and their four children.
Timestamps
00:00 — A Fishing Moment That Exposed a Lack of Trust in the Body
02:16 — Choosing “Kindness” as a Word of the Year—and Missing the Point
05:05 — A Physiotherapy Session That Reawakened Trauma
06:20 — The Body Keeps the Score Becomes Personal
07:45 — Prayer, Sensation, and Following the Body’s Memory Trail
10:55 — Evangelizing the Body as a Pathway to Reality
12:30 — Trauma as Dissociation and the Body as Truth-Teller
16:50 — Injury as a Portal for Deeper Healing
18:45 — Salvation, Healing, and the Resurrection of the Body
22:00 — Why Bodies Heal Themselves—and What Clinicians Really Do
31:20 — Chronic Pain as an Invitation to Relationship
41:30 — Posture as an Emotional and Spiritual Expression
47:00 — Healing Requires Trust, Not Just Repair
53:45 — A Javelin Thrower, an Ankle Injury, and a Career Saved
01:06:45 — Presence as the Core Task of Ministry
01:10:45 — Matching Energy to Love Others Well
01:17:55 — Sugar, Performance, and Hidden Belief Systems
01:25:50 — Presence, Formation, and Spiritual Disciplines
01:33:55 — Becoming Yourself as a Vocation
01:39:15 — Health Is Not Holiness

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In this episode of This Strange Land, Jason sits down with Evangelical Pastor Jeremy Johnson of Village Church to explore why so many people—especially younger generations—are becoming hungry for transcendence and turning toward ancient expressions of faith. Together they examine the limits of modernism, the dangers of consumer-driven Christianity, and what the Catholic and Protestant traditions can learn from each other in recovering a deeper encounter with Christ. A thoughtful, honest ecumenical conversation about discipleship, culture, and the future of the Church.
Guest Bio
Jeremy Johnson is a Senior Pastor at Village Church based in Surrey British Columbia, with locations across Canada. He has spent time teaching and writing about theology and culture and has a specific interest in how theological anthropology intersects with digital technology and spaces. Jeremy studied theology at Regent College where he completed an MA and ThM and has been married to his wife Jennifer for twenty two years and they have two six year old identical twin boys.
Timestamps
00:00 — The Transcendent Center of the Church
00:32 — Welcome to This Strange Land
01:15 — Introducing Jeremy Johnson
01:41 — Why an Evangelical Is Speaking to Catholics
03:45 — From “Convince Me It’s True” to “Show Me It’s Real”
04:55 — The Cultural Shift Toward Transcendence
06:30 — Why Young People Are Turning to Catholicism
08:07 — Liturgy as an Encounter With the Transcendent
10:10 — Village Church: Modern Excellence Meets Mystery
12:28 — Using Modern Tools Without Losing Transcendence
14:26 — The Consumer Christian Problem
17:08 — Bad Questions and Reductionist Faith
21:06 — Wrestling With Faith vs. Control
24:13 — Defining Modernism and Its Limits
29:53 — Technology’s Agenda vs. the Church’s Mission
31:18 — The Mental Health Crisis as a Modernist Failure
35:34 — Post-Postmodernism and Emerging Worldviews
40:29 — Transcending Philosophies, Not Becoming Them
59:13 — “It’s God’s Work, Not Ours”
1:20:58 — Pope Leo and the Power of Transcendence
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In this episode of This Strange Land, Jason Simon and Jason Jensen dive deep into what real accompaniment looks like in today’s Church. They explore why traditional ministry metrics are no longer enough, how parishes can cultivate “accompaniment capacity,” and why curiosity, presence, and trust in the Holy Spirit are essential to walking with people far from faith. Together, they unpack the shift from program-driven ministry to people-driven mission — one authentic relationship at a time.

Guest Bio

Jason Simon is the President of the Evangelical Catholic, an organization dedicated to forming missionary disciples and equipping parishes, campuses, and dioceses for evangelization. Based in Madison, Wisconsin, Jason has spent decades helping Catholic leaders build cultures of accompaniment, discipleship, and mission. He and his wife, Grace, have been married for 27 years and are parents to six children.

Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction to the Episode

00:53 – Jason Simon Introduces Himself

02:00 – What Excites Jason About the Church Today

03:33 – The Changing Language of Evangelization

04:20 – The New Shift: Equipping the Laity

06:00 – Luis Shares His Parallel Conversion Story

09:00 – The Rise of “Accompaniment” as a Core Concept

10:50 – Introducing the Idea of Accompaniment Capacity

14:45 – Jason Reacts to Accompaniment Capacity

15:40 – A Powerful Example of Real Accompaniment

18:00 – “The Measure Is Love, Not Numbers”

19:45 – Mission Capacity vs. Accompaniment

23:00 – The Fear of Letting Go of Old Metrics

25:00 – Why Current Metrics Don’t Measure Evangelical Vibrancy

30:00 – How Leaders Should Track Actual Mission Stories

33:00 – Why Pastors Must Invest in the 5%

36:30 – The Limits of Programs Like Alpha

38:45 – Luis on the Truth Pastors Must Face

45:00 – What Qualitative Accompaniment Looks Like

47:00 – Curiosity as the Superpower of Accompaniment

50:00 – Compassionate Curiosity & Seeing People as God Sees Them

56:00 – How Being Seen Heals the Accompanier Too

01:00:00 – Why Apologetics Often Short-Circuits Accompaniment

01:05:30 – Identity, Shame Culture, and Evangelization Today

01:14:00 – Apprenticing Under Jesus as the Framework for Discipleship

01:20:00 – Hope + Radical Acceptance

01:33:00 – Helping People See Jesus as Personally Relevant

01:43:00 – Final Reflections on the Slow Work of Accompaniment

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In this episode of This Strange Land, Jake Khym joins us to explore how a Gospel worldview can transform our identity, relationships, and spiritual lives. He and Jason unpack how to invite others into Kingdom reality, why identity is central to healing, and how our loves and sins reveal our deepest beliefs about who God is. Together, they reflect on how healing happens, how to pray with expectation, and why even the “crumbs” of God are enough to change everything. This is a deep and honest conversation about discipleship, desire, and discovering who we truly are in Christ.

Guest Bio
Jake is a Catholic leader with over 20 years experience in various ministry settings. He has a Masters Degree in Counselling Psychology and a Bachelor of Arts in Theology with a concentration in Catechetics. Jake has worked in adult faith formation, seminarian and priestly formation, diocesan evangelization, catechesis, RCIA, retreat ministry, and has a private counseling practice for over 15 years. He is the cofounder of Life Restoration Ministries.

Timestamps
0:00 - Introducing Jake Khym

02:10 - How Jake & Jason see the world

05:11 - Inviting people into a Biblical worldview

13:41 - Who do you follow?

15:41 - How to engage with people

23:00 - What are things that bring us into a Kingdom reality?

34:20 - The power of understanding who you are

50:20 - Discovering your identity enables you to discover God

59:00 - How what we love & where we sin reveals our faith

1:03:57 - What we believe about ourselves is at the heart of why we’re sinning

1:05 - What healing really is

1:14:11 - How to pray & experience the ‘crumbs’ of God

1:32:33 - Last thoughts from Jake & Jason

Mentioned
Restore the Glory Podcast - https://www.restoretheglorypodcast.com/

Life Restoration Ministries - https://www.liferestoration.ca/

Franciscan University - https://franciscan.edu/

Abiding Together Podcast - https://www.abidingtogetherpodcast.com/

Sprints with Glass Canvas - https://www.glasscanvas.io/sprints

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Summary
In this episode of This Strange Land, we sit down with members of the Brotherhood of Hope to explore how we can live faithfully in today’s postmodern, often pagan, culture. We talk about the core beliefs of the Brotherhood, the deep hunger people have to be seen, to know their identity, hear truth, and be in authentic community.

We also dive into the prophetic role of the Church today—what it means to speak truth in love, the risks involved, and hear stories from the Brotherhood’s experience on college campuses.

From conversations about sin to living in the Spirit and expecting God to speak, this is a rich and stirring look at what it means to follow Christ with courage and hope in this strange land.

Timestamps
0:00 - Introducing Brotherhood of Hope

01:52 - BoH core beliefs 

03:33 - The pagan culture we find ourselves in

08:27 - Postmodern vs. modernism 

12:46 - What are people actually looking for?

17:00 - The actual value of community

21:40 - Shame, guilt, and identity

25:07 - How to approach a conversation about sin

31:12 - The prophetic gift of BoH

50:00 - Reacting to the Second Vatican Council

56:00 - What does risk have to do with being a prophet?

1:11:45 - How can we start living this?

1:25:13 - How to remain living in the Spirit

1:29:26 - Expecting God to speak

Noteworthy Quotes
“We’re no longer in Jerusalem. We’re in Babylon. We’re a Christian people no longer living in Christendom – we’re living in a foreign land.” – Brother Clinton

Mentioned
Brotherhood of Hope – https://brotherhoodofhope.org/life

Dallas Willard – https://www.amazon.ca/Hearing-God-Dallas-Willard/dp/0830835695

Eric Chow – https://weareproclaim.com/

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