This Strange Land

In this episode of This Strange Land, Jason sits down with physiotherapist Robbie de Fleuriot to explore the profound connection between the body, trauma, and spiritual healing. Together they examine how pain, posture, and the nervous system carry our stories, why modern culture often disconnects us from embodiment, and how healing the body can become a pathway into deeper discipleship. A wide-ranging conversation on presence, trauma, theology of the body, and what it means to live integrated lives as followers of Jesus in an overstimulated world.Guest BioRobbie de Fleuriot is a physiotherapist and the founder of Fort Sport +Family Physio in Fort Langley, British Columbia. He works with individuals to understand pain, injury, and healing through a whole-person lens, integrating the body’s story with physical, psychological, and relational experience. Robbie has a particular interest in trauma, understanding anxiety, embodiment, and how physical healing can support deeper presence and integration. He lives in the Lower Mainland with his wife and their four children.Timestamps 00:00 — A Fishing Moment That Exposed a Lack of Trust in the Body02:16 — Choosing “Kindness” as a Word of the Year—and Missing the Point05:05 — A Physiotherapy Session That Reawakened Trauma06:20 — The Body Keeps the Score Becomes Personal07:45 — Prayer, Sensation, and Following the Body’s Memory Trail10:55 — Evangelizing the Body as a Pathway to Reality12:30 — Trauma as Dissociation and the Body as Truth-Teller16:50 — Injury as a Portal for Deeper Healing18:45 — Salvation, Healing, and the Resurrection of the Body22:00 — Why Bodies Heal Themselves—and What Clinicians Really Do31:20 — Chronic Pain as an Invitation to Relationship41:30 — Posture as an Emotional and Spiritual Expression47:00 — Healing Requires Trust, Not Just Repair53:45 — A Javelin Thrower, an Ankle Injury, and a Career Saved01:06:45 — Presence as the Core Task of Ministry01:10:45 — Matching Energy to Love Others Well01:17:55 — Sugar, Performance, and Hidden Belief Systems01:25:50 — Presence, Formation, and Spiritual Disciplines01:33:55 — Becoming Yourself as a Vocation01:39:15 — Health Is Not HolinessStay ConnectedThank you for listening to this episode with Robbie de Fleuriot. To learn more about Robbie' work visit fortphysio.com.If this episode encouraged you, make sure to subscribe on your favourite streaming platform and follow us on Instagram to be notified about our latest episodes.Instagram | Apple | Spotify | YoutubeLearn more about Glass Canvas ➡︎ https://glasscanvas.io

In this episode of This Strange Land, Jason sits down with Evangelical Pastor Jeremy Johnson of Village Church to explore why so many people—especially younger generations—are becoming hungry for transcendence and turning toward ancient expressions of faith. Together they examine the limits of modernism, the dangers of consumer-driven Christianity, and what the Catholic and Protestant traditions can learn from each other in recovering a deeper encounter with Christ. A thoughtful, honest ecumenical conversation about discipleship, culture, and the future of the Church.Guest BioJeremy Johnson is a Senior Pastor at Village Church based in Surrey British Columbia, with locations across Canada. He has spent time teaching and writing about theology and culture and has a specific interest in how theological anthropology intersects with digital technology and spaces. Jeremy studied theology at Regent College where he completed an MA and ThM and has been married to his wife Jennifer for twenty two years and they have two six year old identical twin boys.Timestamps00:00 — The Transcendent Center of the Church00:32 — Welcome to This Strange Land01:15 — Introducing Jeremy Johnson01:41 — Why an Evangelical Is Speaking to Catholics03:45 — From “Convince Me It’s True” to “Show Me It’s Real”04:55 — The Cultural Shift Toward Transcendence06:30 — Why Young People Are Turning to Catholicism08:07 — Liturgy as an Encounter With the Transcendent10:10 — Village Church: Modern Excellence Meets Mystery12:28 — Using Modern Tools Without Losing Transcendence14:26 — The Consumer Christian Problem17:08 — Bad Questions and Reductionist Faith21:06 — Wrestling With Faith vs. Control24:13 — Defining Modernism and Its Limits29:53 — Technology’s Agenda vs. the Church’s Mission31:18 — The Mental Health Crisis as a Modernist Failure35:34 — Post-Postmodernism and Emerging Worldviews40:29 — Transcending Philosophies, Not Becoming Them59:13 — “It’s God’s Work, Not Ours”1:20:58 — Pope Leo and the Power of TranscendenceStay ConnectedThank you for listening to this episode with Jeremy Johnson. If this episode encouraged you, make sure to subscribe on your favourite streaming platform and follow us on Instagram to be notified about our latest episodes.Instagram | Apple | Spotify | YoutubeLearn more about Glass Canvas ➡︎ https://glasscanvas.io

In this episode of This Strange Land, Jason Simon and Jason Jensen dive deep into what real accompaniment looks like in today’s Church. They explore why traditional ministry metrics are no longer enough, how parishes can cultivate “accompaniment capacity,” and why curiosity, presence, and trust in the Holy Spirit are essential to walking with people far from faith. Together, they unpack the shift from program-driven ministry to people-driven mission — one authentic relationship at a time. Guest Bio Jason Simon is the President of the Evangelical Catholic, an organization dedicated to forming missionary disciples and equipping parishes, campuses, and dioceses for evangelization. Based in Madison, Wisconsin, Jason has spent decades helping Catholic leaders build cultures of accompaniment, discipleship, and mission. He and his wife, Grace, have been married for 27 years and are parents to six children. Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction to the Episode 00:53 – Jason Simon Introduces Himself 02:00 – What Excites Jason About the Church Today 03:33 – The Changing Language of Evangelization 04:20 – The New Shift: Equipping the Laity 06:00 – Luis Shares His Parallel Conversion Story 09:00 – The Rise of “Accompaniment” as a Core Concept 10:50 – Introducing the Idea of Accompaniment Capacity 14:45 – Jason Reacts to Accompaniment Capacity 15:40 – A Powerful Example of Real Accompaniment 18:00 – “The Measure Is Love, Not Numbers” 19:45 – Mission Capacity vs. Accompaniment 23:00 – The Fear of Letting Go of Old Metrics 25:00 – Why Current Metrics Don’t Measure Evangelical Vibrancy 30:00 – How Leaders Should Track Actual Mission Stories 33:00 – Why Pastors Must Invest in the 5% 36:30 – The Limits of Programs Like Alpha 38:45 – Luis on the Truth Pastors Must Face 45:00 – What Qualitative Accompaniment Looks Like 47:00 – Curiosity as the Superpower of Accompaniment 50:00 – Compassionate Curiosity & Seeing People as God Sees Them 56:00 – How Being Seen Heals the Accompanier Too 01:00:00 – Why Apologetics Often Short-Circuits Accompaniment 01:05:30 – Identity, Shame Culture, and Evangelization Today 01:14:00 – Apprenticing Under Jesus as the Framework for Discipleship 01:20:00 – Hope + Radical Acceptance 01:33:00 – Helping People See Jesus as Personally Relevant 01:43:00 – Final Reflections on the Slow Work of Accompaniment Stay Connected Thank you for listening to this episode with Jason Simon. If this episode encouraged you, make sure to subscribe on your favourite streaming platform and follow us on Instagram to be notified about our latest episodes. Instagram | Apple | Spotify | Youtube Learn more about Glass Canvas ➡︎ https://glasscanvas.io

In this episode of This Strange Land, Jake Khym joins us to explore how a Gospel worldview can transform our identity, relationships, and spiritual lives. He and Jason unpack how to invite others into Kingdom reality, why identity is central to healing, and how our loves and sins reveal our deepest beliefs about who God is. Together, they reflect on how healing happens, how to pray with expectation, and why even the “crumbs” of God are enough to change everything. This is a deep and honest conversation about discipleship, desire, and discovering who we truly are in Christ. Guest Bio Jake is a Catholic leader with over 20 years experience in various ministry settings. He has a Masters Degree in Counselling Psychology and a Bachelor of Arts in Theology with a concentration in Catechetics. Jake has worked in adult faith formation, seminarian and priestly formation, diocesan evangelization, catechesis, RCIA, retreat ministry, and has a private counseling practice for over 15 years. He is the cofounder of Life Restoration Ministries. Timestamps 0:00 - Introducing Jake Khym 02:10 - How Jake & Jason see the world 05:11 - Inviting people into a Biblical worldview 13:41 - Who do you follow? 15:41 - How to engage with people 23:00 - What are things that bring us into a Kingdom reality? 34:20 - The power of understanding who you are 50:20 - Discovering your identity enables you to discover God 59:00 - How what we love & where we sin reveals our faith 1:03:57 - What we believe about ourselves is at the heart of why we’re sinning 1:05 - What healing really is 1:14:11 - How to pray & experience the ‘crumbs’ of God 1:32:33 - Last thoughts from Jake & Jason Mentioned Restore the Glory Podcast - https://www.restoretheglorypodcast.com/ Life Restoration Ministries - https://www.liferestoration.ca/ Franciscan University - https://franciscan.edu/ Abiding Together Podcast - https://www.abidingtogetherpodcast.com/ Sprints with Glass Canvas - https://www.glasscanvas.io/sprints Stay connected Thank you for listening to this episode with Jake Khym. If this episode encouraged you, make sure to subscribe on your favourite streaming platform and follow us on Instagram to be notified about our latest episodes. Instagram | Apple | Spotify | Youtube Learn more about Glass Canvas ➡︎ https://glasscanvas.io  

Summary In this episode of This Strange Land, we sit down with members of the Brotherhood of Hope to explore how we can live faithfully in today’s postmodern, often pagan, culture. We talk about the core beliefs of the Brotherhood, the deep hunger people have to be seen, to know their identity, hear truth, and be in authentic community. We also dive into the prophetic role of the Church today—what it means to speak truth in love, the risks involved, and hear stories from the Brotherhood’s experience on college campuses. From conversations about sin to living in the Spirit and expecting God to speak, this is a rich and stirring look at what it means to follow Christ with courage and hope in this strange land. Timestamps 0:00 - Introducing Brotherhood of Hope 01:52 - BoH core beliefs  03:33 - The pagan culture we find ourselves in 08:27 - Postmodern vs. modernism  12:46 - What are people actually looking for? 17:00 - The actual value of community 21:40 - Shame, guilt, and identity 25:07 - How to approach a conversation about sin 31:12 - The prophetic gift of BoH 50:00 - Reacting to the Second Vatican Council 56:00 - What does risk have to do with being a prophet? 1:11:45 - How can we start living this? 1:25:13 - How to remain living in the Spirit 1:29:26 - Expecting God to speak Noteworthy Quotes “We’re no longer in Jerusalem. We’re in Babylon. We’re a Christian people no longer living in Christendom – we’re living in a foreign land.” – Brother Clinton Mentioned Brotherhood of Hope – https://brotherhoodofhope.org/life Dallas Willard – https://www.amazon.ca/Hearing-God-Dallas-Willard/dp/0830835695 Eric Chow – https://weareproclaim.com/ Stay connected Thank you for listening to this episode with the Brotherhood of Hope. If this episode encouraged you, make sure to subscribe on your favourite streaming platform and follow us on Instagram to be notified about our latest episodes. Instagram | Apple | Spotify | Youtube Learn more about Glass Canvas ➡︎ https://glasscanvas.io