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• America tells the world (and Canada) the new rules of the game

  In the latest episode of The Line Podcast, recorded on December 5th, 2025, hosts Matt Gurney and Jen Gerson open with the newly released U.S. foreign policy document, and they’re not exactly thrilled. They agree it’s an accurate  reflection of how the White House sees the world — uncomfortably accurate, in fact. They’ve been flagging many of these issues for months, hoping Canadians and Canadian policymakers would start paying attention. Now the White House has packaged all of it into one tidy, unsettling summary.Some of what the document lays out is simply true, and Canadian and other allied politicians, especially on the left, have ignored those realities at their peril. Some of it is debatable, or at least worth taking seriously. And some of it is outright nuts, pulled straight from the conspiratorial anxieties of America’s far-right social media ecosystem. But whether reasonable, arguable, or deranged, it is now official White House policy — and the rest of us are going to have to learn to live with it.From there, the conversation turns to how Canadians are, or aren’t, learning to live with it. There is still very little evidence that anyone here grasps the scale of the threat or the urgency involved. Jen introduces a new theory: Canada as a nation is increasingly resembling the federal New Democrats — and that’s not good news for anyone. She also says that at a moment we desperately need to be pulling together, we're instead getting set to fight another series of sovereignty referendums and a fresh pipeline war. She has concerns, is all. Oh, and also. Katy Perry!All that and more in the latest episode of The Line Podcast. Visit our main site at ReadTheLine.ca.

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• The Last Straight Women Discuss

  Today On The Line, host Jen Gerson sits down with Toronto writer Phoebe Maltz Bovy, who has recently completed her book The Last Straight Woman. They dig into "the Discourse," the absolute state of heterosexuality in a post MeToo, post online dating app era. Sexual harassment, cosplay oppression, age gaps in relationships, marriage, the romanticization of the single mother, and why it's almost embarrassing for straight women to just be straight women. There is no subject made taboo today! 

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• Carney and Smith cut a deal, Guilbeault packs his bags

  In the latest episode of The Line Podcast, recorded on November 28th, 2025, your hosts start with the biggest story of the week before veering off into a surprisingly long but very entertaining tangent about seafood and the possible unsustainability of our entire civilization. Trust us, it’s a good one.They do eventually get to the Memorandum of Understanding signed this week between Ottawa and Alberta. Both hosts agree it ended up being a solid week for Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. They also wonder whether it somehow turned into a good week for Steven Guilbeault, who is now out of Carney’s cabinet. Did Guilbeault’s decision to walk away mark the moment more Liberals finally realized the Trudeau era is really, truly over? Matt also notes that Carney can't keep offering everyone carrots; sooner or later, someone is going to need to get the stick. And he names the province he thinks should be made example of ... to encourage the others, of course.From there, the conversation shifts to Matt’s recent trip to the Halifax International Security Forum. He’s working on a series of columns about it that will begin rolling out soon, but he shares a few early stories — all circling the theme of America having ghosted the world, and how some Americans, bless them, still think this is something they can fix quickly after a midterm or the next election. Matt isn’t convinced. He also has a few thoughts about the relative cleanliness of some Canadian cities he has visited lately. Halifax, you’re looking good.All that and more in the latest episode of The Line Podcast.

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• Should Canada Join America?

  In this week's On The Line, host Jen Gerson speaks with New York Times columnist Ross Douthat, who was in Ottawa this week to give the inaugural Ian Shugart lecture, held by Christian think tank Cardus. Gerson grills Douthat on an infamous column he wrote earlier this year arguing Canada should join Empire America. They go on to discuss the religious and political landscape in the U.S., and what we have right -- and probably wrong -- about the advent of Christian nationalism. 

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• Canada needs new values — or any values

  In the latest episode of The Line Podcast, recorded on November 21st, 2025, both of your hosts are on the road, and both of them bring stories and observations from where they’re visiting.This episode of The Line Podcast is brought to you by Forestry For The Future. Canada’s housing crisis demands bold, scalable solutions. Build Canada Homes is an opportunity to leverage Canadian wood in modern construction. Wood-based methods like mass timber and modular construction can significantly reduce build times, waste, and carbon emissions, while supporting local economies. Expanding building codes, streamlining approvals, and prioritizing domestic wood in federal projects could double demand and foster job creation in rural and northern communities.Despite trade challenges and market volatility, a partnership between industry and government is vital to stabilize the sector, enhance competitiveness, and deliver innovative, sustainably sourced Canadian wood products for homes across Canada and abroad. With capacity growing across provinces, stable demand and predictable financing are key to unlocking the sector’s potential.We need to Build Canada Homes with Canadian wood. To learn more, visit ForestryForTheFuture.ca.First up, Jen Gerson joins us from Ottawa, where she’s at the Cardus conference talking about issues of faith and values in Canadian public life. Your hosts get into a long conversation about what “values” actually mean in a Canadian context, how they show up (or don’t) in public policy, and where we might look to find them.They also talk a bit about fighter jets, but that’s neither here nor there. From there, the episode shifts into a deeper discussion about immigration. The Conservatives have rolled out some proposals that both your hosts think are reasonable, but the larger conversation becomes one about national identity. What is Canada’s sales proposition, and what are we asking new Canadians to adopt as part of becoming Canadian? There’s a lot to unpack, including a few shared worries.Last up, Matt Gurney dives into an interesting — and overdue — development in Canadian health-care. And yes, it ties right back into the values theme, making this a rare three-segment through line.All that and more in the latest episode of The Line Podcast.

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