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Colonel Patrick Saunders was the Base Adjutant at Roswell Army Air Field in 1947. He was on-site when the UFO incident occurred, and it was only many years later that he revealed to his son, Tim Saunders, what he saw amid the military scramble to retrieve the crash site debris and bodies. “We’re not alone in the universe,” he told Tim. Tim shares what his father shared with him: Patrick’s private account, the extraterrestrial bodies that he says were recovered from the crash site, and the description of those bodies. Tim says his father lived under the shadow of the secrets of Roswell for much of his life, and that sharing the truth was fraught with valid threats. Tim believes with absolute certainty that there is life beyond this planet.

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Col. Saunders told his son that several bodies were recovered from the Roswell wreckage, having larger heads, eyes, and thin frames

It’s possible that the U.S. military developed stealth technology from captured UFO aircraft and communicating with these alien beings

Col. Saunders assigned troops to go to the debris field in Roswell and catalogued what was found there

Col. Saunders also told his son about a ‘foil-like’ substance that could crumple and then return to its original, flat shape

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When a UFO incident is reported, what happens afterward? In the case of Roswell, New Mexico, what happened was a massive government effort to conceal and secure the crash site and 'little people', sparking questions, theories, and confusion. Through the haze of misdirection, investigative researcher and author Thomas Carey joined forces in 1991 with Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt to uncover the truth. Amid their research, Thomas was able to track down the archeologist who first witnessed the Roswell crash site and eliminate some of the incorrect theories being shared, like whether debris was also collected on the Plains of San Agustin, roughly 120 miles west of Roswell. He also reveals shocking details about the extraterrestrial bodies allegedly taken from the crash site: four dead and one still alive!

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Thomas says there have been 30 deathbed confessions among the several hundred witnesses interviewed about Roswell

Kevin Randall and Donald Schmitt reopened the Roswell research case decades after the crash

The official government narrative around Roswell claimed that it was a weather balloon without any evidence to support their claim

Years later, the Air Force clarified that the balloons were part of a top-secret program aimed at spying on the Soviets, also inaccurate

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Kevin Randle is a retired military officer with a background in intelligence. Today, he’s a full-time writer with more than 146 books to his credit, and a deep knowledge of the topics surrounding UFOs. Kevin has spent 35 years investigating the Roswell UFO crash and the mystery surrounding it, speaking to other military officers who witnessed elements of the crash site, including alien bodies, and shared shocking testimony about what the government has tried so hard to hide for decades. He explains Project Mogul and how it was used to divert attention away from the Roswell incident in 1947. Kevin also highlights another UFO sighting in 1957, allegedly witnessed by countless people, including military officials. Daily, the conversation around UFOs and UAPs becomes more mainstream, heightening public interest, despite government efforts to suppress the topic. 

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The physical evidence from Roswell was quickly confiscated by the U.S. government and officials were sworn to secrecy

Several sources told Kevin that the alleged bodies recovered from the Roswell site were processed through Wright-Patterson Air Force Base

The 1957 UFO incident reportedly caused cars near the aerial object to stall which doesn’t line up with the supposed bolt of lightning theory

Witnesses to these UFO events describe seeing an ‘egg-shaped’ aerial object

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What really happened in Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947? Following the discovery of strange metallic debris, the U.S. military secured the area amid murmurs of a downed UFO. Roswell has since become the epicenter of UFO speculation and theories, prompting many, like Donald Schmitt, to dedicate their time and research to finding the truth about what happened. Donald is an investigative journalist, author, and expert on all things Roswell-related. He recounts the 1947 UFO incident, the alleged government cover-up, and the hundreds of testimonies from people with firsthand knowledge. Was the debris really just a fallen weather balloon as claimed? From allegations of possible alien bodies removed from the Roswell wreckage to accounts of an underground research facility and refrigerated hangar, Donald dishes out all the details on this alien phenomenon.

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Some accounts claim that bodies were recovered from the crash site with one alien being still being alive when discovered

The Roswell Army Air Field initially announced in 1947 that they had recovered a flying ‘disc’

Military officials changed the original claim of discovering a flying ‘disc’ to only finding a weather balloon

The Roswell crash site was well secured, and any tangible evidence was quickly removed by the U.S. military

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Frederick Price Jr., the pastor of Crenshaw Christian Center and the author of Angels, Demons, and the Battle for the Soul: How to Recognize, Resist, and Reign in Spiritual Warfare, gives details about the supernatural battle constantly happening all around us. He starts by answering a burning question: Are UFOs or aliens in the Bible? In Ezekiel 1, the famed prophet describes creatures that he encountered by the River Kebar, whilst exiled by King Jehoiachin. These creatures were bizarre and otherworldly, like humans, but with many faces, wings, and animalistic features. The Bible has a lot to say about angels, demons, and the spiritual realm, but many Christians, including pastors, are afraid to talk about it. The spiritual world is very real, and Christians should be armed with knowledge on this key subject, which explains the tumult and dangers of this fallen realm.

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God placed a curse on the serpent, Satan, and promised enmity between his seed and Eve’s seed - seed wars

The Bible does not talk about terrestrial beings on other planets

Genesis 6 recounts the creation of half-men, the offspring of fallen angels and human women

It is possible that Biblical references to aerial ‘chariots’ could be what we describe today as a ‘UFO’

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