Down The Garden Path Podcast

• Pondless Water Features & More with Ernest Williams from Aquascape

  This week on the podcast, Joanne Shaw speaks with Ernest Williams from Aquascape about the popularity of water features in landscaping, including pondless designs, fountainscapes, and natural swimming ponds. Here are some of the topics discussed in this episode: Pondless Water Features in Landscaping Increasingly popular in landscaping for their low maintenance and safety Enhances curb appeal and attracts wildlife Provides the sound of water without the upkeep of traditional ponds Preferred by homeowners seeking aesthetics and simplicity Pondless Water Features Design and Functionality Mimics natural water flow; includes bubbling elements and disappearing streams Built with similar mechanics as ponds but without standing water Water recirculates through a hidden basin, minimizing runoff Can integrate downspouts and rainwater harvesting for stormwater management Design and Maintenance Mini spillway and aqua basin designs allow features to fit any yard size Water should remain in basins during winter to prevent cracking/freezing Maintenance includes removing pumps before freezing temperatures Naturalistic design is achieved using varied rocks Proper maintenance and design extend feature lifespan Noise Reduction Water features help block unwanted sounds (e.g., traffic) Creates a soothing outdoor environment Watching water can lower blood pressure and heart rate An affordable and visually appealing way to improve outdoor spaces Installation Both professional installation and DIY options are available Certified landscape companies offer installation and customer service DIY products available for homeowners The Aquascape University program provides contractor training and certification Aquascape YouTube channel offers homeowner experiences and advice Construction and Materials Quality materials (granite, field stone) prevent calcium buildup and algae Kits are available for efficient construction Not all yard rocks are suitable for ponds Existing ponds can be converted to pondless features for less maintenance Aqua blocks allow efficient use of space and are load-bearing Pondless Features and Natural Pools Redesigning or converting old ponds to pondless features reduces maintenance Existing rocks can sometimes be incorporated into new designs Recreation ponds (natural swimming ponds) are eco-friendly pool alternatives Suitable for swimming and environmentally conscious homeowners Many specialized contractors are available in Ontario and Quebec Water Conservation in Yard Design Pools can be converted into natural swimming or recreation ponds Water collection systems (e.g., aqua blocks) help manage yard water issues Systems collect/filter water, reduce stormwater runoff, and address muddy yards Emphasizes the importance of water conservation and management in landscaping To learn more about pondless water features and everything Aquascape offers, visit them at www.aquascapeinc.com and view their videos on YouTube. Have a topic you'd like Joanne to discuss? Email your questions and comments to [email protected], or connect via her website at down2earth.ca. Are you a landscape or gardening expert? We'd love to have you on the show! Click here to learn more. Find Down the Garden Path on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube: @downthegardenpathpodcast. Down the Garden Path Podcast On Down The Garden Path, professional landscape designer Joanne Shaw discusses down-to-earth tips and advice for your plants, gardens and landscapes. As the owner of Down2Earth Landscape Design, Joanne Shaw has been designing beautiful gardens for homeowners east of Toronto for over a decade. She does her best to bring you interesting, relevant and useful topics to help you keep your garden as low-maintenance as possible.  In Down the Garden Path: A Step-By-Step Guide to Your Ontario Garden, Joanne and fellow landscape designer Matthew Dressing distill their horticultural and design expertise and their combined experiences in helping others create and maintain thriving gardens into one easy-to-read monthly reference guide. Get your copy today on Amazon. Don't forget to check out Down the Garden Path on your favourite podcast app and subscribe! You can now catch the podcast on YouTube.

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• Frontier Mushrooms with Deb McKee Kelly

  This week, Joanne Shaw speaks with Deb McKee Kelly from Frontier Mushrooms, a leading producer of high-quality, sustainably grown mushrooms. About Deb McKee Kelly Deb is a longtime grower and passionate advocate for reconnecting with the natural world. Based in Grey County, Ontario, she has spent years cultivating gardens, food crops, and for the past 10 years, gourmet mushrooms. Today, her work with mushrooms and mycelium focuses on sustainable growing practices, education, and innovative uses for fungi in food systems and beyond. With a deep respect for nature’s intelligence — and a belief that fungi hold keys to a more resilient future — Deb and her growing partner Darin share their knowledge with growers, makers, and curious minds alike. Here are some of the topics discussed in this episode: Overview of Frontier Mushrooms: a family-run mushroom farm Deb’s background and how she got into mushroom cultivation Types of Mushrooms Grown at Frontier Mushrooms Focus on specialty mushrooms: Shiitake, Oyster, Lion’s Mane, and more Discussion on the unique qualities and flavours of each type The Mushroom Growing Process Step-by-step explanation of mushroom cultivation Importance of substrate and environmental controls (humidity, temperature, light) Challenges faced in mushroom farming (pests, contamination) Health Benefits of Mushrooms Nutritional value: protein, fibre, vitamins (B, D), minerals Medicinal properties: immune support, cognitive benefits (especially Lion’s Mane) Myths and facts about mushrooms’ health impacts Cooking and Using Mushrooms at Home Tips for storing and preparing fresh mushrooms Simple recipe ideas shared by Deb Advice on maximizing mushroom flavour in dishes Buying Local and Supporting Small Farms Benefits of sourcing mushrooms from local growers How Frontier Mushrooms connects with the community (farmers’ markets, local stores) The importance of sustainable and organic practices Common Questions from Listeners How to grow mushrooms at home: starter kits, best varieties for beginners Shelf life and storage tips for fresh mushrooms Identifying edible vs. wild mushrooms (safety tips) Deb’s Favourite Mushroom Varieties and Recipes Personal recommendations for cooking and eating Unique uses for lesser-known mushrooms Learn more at www.frontiermushrooms.com. Find them on Facebook @frontiermushrooms and Instagram @frontiermushrooms. Have a topic you'd like Joanne to discuss? Email your questions and comments to [email protected], or connect via her website at down2earth.ca. Are you a landscape or gardening expert? We'd love to have you on the show! Click here to learn more. Find Down the Garden Path on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube: @downthegardenpathpodcast. Down the Garden Path Podcast On Down The Garden Path, professional landscape designer Joanne Shaw discusses down-to-earth tips and advice for your plants, gardens and landscapes. As the owner of Down2Earth Landscape Design, Joanne Shaw has been designing beautiful gardens for homeowners east of Toronto for over a decade. She does her best to bring you interesting, relevant and useful topics to help you keep your garden as low-maintenance as possible.  In Down the Garden Path: A Step-By-Step Guide to Your Ontario Garden, Joanne and fellow landscape designer Matthew Dressing distill their horticultural and design expertise and their combined experiences in helping others create and maintain thriving gardens into one easy-to-read monthly reference guide. Get your copy today on Amazon. Don't forget to check out Down the Garden Path on your favourite podcast app and subscribe! You can now catch the podcast on YouTube.

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• Plants Always Win Podcast with Sean Patchett and Erin Alladin

  This week on Down the Garden Path, Joanne speaks with Erin Alladin and Sean Patchett about their podcast, Plants Always Win. Plants Always Win Podcast Plants Always Win is a podcast where two Ontario gardeners dive down plant-fact rabbit holes, answer audience questions, interview intriguing guests, and compete to bring you the most interesting stories and information. Erin Alladin, a.k.a. Earth Undaunted, is a professional communicator with a love for gardens, especially garden ecosystems. She’s known online for her writing and videos about gardening with chronic illness and disability, as well as her background in permaculture and community garden-organizing. While chronic illness has kept Erin from making gardening her livelihood, she leaps at any chance to bring it into her work as an author, copywriter, and editor. Sean Patchett, a.k.a GardenGuyMuskoka, is a professional gardener, horticulture technician, and member of the Master Gardeners of Ontario. Sean completed the Horticulture Technician C.O.D.A. Program at the University of Guelph’s Kemptville Campus and went on to build a landscaping design and maintenance business in Northern Muskoka. When he learned of The Master Gardeners in 2020, their mandate of freely learning and sharing plant knowledge inspired him to join. Sean continues to do public speaking and community projects. Sean and Erin discuss the origins of their podcast, the community they've created and Erin's latest children's book:  The podcast began with Sean’s initial attempts at podcasting, which later evolved after he connected with Erin through TikTok. Their shared interests and local proximity led to a partnership, and after experimenting with different formats, they officially launched the podcast in December 2024. Episodes alternate between: Plant face-offs, where each host champions a particular plant or gardening concept (e.g., Borage vs. Cosmos) and encourages listeners to vote for their favourite. Guest interviews, featuring experts from related fields such as entomology and forestry. Topic selection is guided by a spreadsheet, trending questions from social media, and input from their Patreon supporters, who are given advance notice of upcoming episodes to submit relevant questions. Plants Always Win has an active and growing community, including a Discord group. They regularly solicit listener questions and feedback, encouraging corrections and further inquiries at the end of each episode. Sean and Erin discussed the importance of context and nuance in their research, highlighting the need to evaluate sources critically and avoid spreading misinformation. They believe in fostering a love of nature in both children and adults, advocating for hands-on experiences and the benefits of getting “dirty” in the garden. Erin is also a children’s book author. Her books, Outside, You Notice, and Wait Like a Seed, aim to connect children and adults with nature, emphasizing the importance of outdoor exploration and environmental awareness. They are available everywhere books are sold. Find Sean and Erin online: Website: www.plantsalwayswin.com TikTok: @plantsalwayswinpodcast You can find Sean online as @GardenGuyMuskoka. Erin’s blog, www.earthundaunted.com, makes the big ideas behind regenerative agriculture accessible to home gardeners. Find her on TikTok at @earthundaunted. Have a topic you'd like Joanne to discuss? Email your questions and comments to [email protected], or connect via her website at down2earth.ca. Find Down the Garden Path on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube: @downthegardenpathpodcast. Down the Garden Path Podcast On Down The Garden Path, professional landscape designer Joanne Shaw discusses down-to-earth tips and advice for your plants, gardens and landscapes. As the owner of Down2Earth Landscape Design, Joanne Shaw has been designing beautiful gardens for homeowners east of Toronto for over a decade. She does her best to bring you interesting, relevant and useful topics to help you keep your garden as low-maintenance as possible.  In Down the Garden Path: A Step-By-Step Guide to Your Ontario Garden, Joanne and fellow landscape designer Matthew Dressing distill their horticultural and design expertise and their combined experiences in helping others create and maintain thriving gardens into one easy-to-read monthly reference guide. Get your copy today on Amazon. Don't forget to check out Down the Garden Path on your favourite podcast app and subscribe! You can now catch the podcast on YouTube.

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• Growing Lettuce, Spinach and Potatoes with Julia Dimakos

  In this episode of Down the Garden Path, Joanne Shaw discusses growing fresh staples like lettuce, spinach and potatoes with “The Gardening Girl” Julia Dimakos. About Julia Dimakos Julia Dimakos’ 7000 square foot kitchen garden is in Mono, Ontario, on 25 acres on the Niagara Escarpment. Julia has been growing vegetables and writing about gardening for over 14 years. She was twice published in Canadian Organic Grower magazine and became a published author in July 2022 with her first book, Tea Gardening for Beginners. In this episode, Joanne asked Julia about a few things we can grow ourselves instead of buying from the grocery store.  Lettuce  If we start now, lettuce is one of the fastest-growing options. Julia explains how easy it is to grow and which varieties to grow throughout the seasons. It is important to start with fresh seeds, so buy a new packet instead of using seeds from an old package. Multi-sowing is an easy way to get started. Fill a small, shallow container with soil, a moist seed starting mix. Compact the soil. Sprinkle a generous amount of seed on top of the soil. Julia explains how and why to sprinkle a layer of vermiculite on top of the seed, then water gently. Label and date your tray, then add a dome or clear cover. Put them under a grow light 2 inches above the soil to prevent the seedlings from stretching toward the light. Grow lights should be on a timer, 16 hours on and 8 hours off. Get a multicell container ready for when true leaves start to grow on the seedlings. Take the cover off when you see germination. Carefully lift out the seedlings by the leaf before their true leaves form to make it easier to separate and to successfully grow in the cell.   Lettuce produces more roots than you think, and they do not like competition. Julia explains the best way to succession plant a continuous crop. They go from seed to plant in the ground in 3 weeks. They can be planted successfully in an ornamental garden shaded by other plants. Julia also discusses how to save your own seeds, and recommends buttercrunch, iceberg, Lollo, oak leaf varieties are perfect growing in the cooler spring weather.  In the summer, try romaine varieties like little gem, shady spot or merlot. Grow in partial shade and or under other plants, e.g. tomato plants. Harvest right into a bowl of ice-cold water. Clean in a salad spinner. You can store freshly harvested lettuce in a Ziplock bag full of air for 1 week. In August, start growing the cooler varieties again, up until a hard frost. Spinach  Julia explains how growing spinach is different from growing lettuce: it is not interested in any heat at all.  Spinach is good to start now in cold temperatures, 2 to 3 seedlings per cell. It can grow right now in the garden or inside in a dome and quickly move outside. It will stop growing in the summer heat. In August, you can start sowing it again; it will grow for the fall, and then it will grow again in the spring The same plant will return and be ready for you to harvest the leaves. Spinach plants are small, only about a foot high. Julia also explains why spinach could be the best plant for spots where you grow your annuals.  You’ll never have to worry about E. coli or salmonella when growing your own lettuce and spinach—no recalls! Potatoes  Homegrown potatoes are successfully grown without the chemicals that commercial growers use.  Start with seed potatoes Why it is best to purchase true seed potatoes and not use potatoes from the grocery store, even the organic ones. Buying seed potatoes ensures that you are growing tested and healthy potatoes.  Plant the seed potatoes whole for a stronger plant instead of cutting them. Julia recommends pre-sprouting the seed potatoes. Use an egg carton or shallow box, place the seed potatoes eye side up and tail down. Place them in the light with no soil to sprout. The goal is to grow short, stubby green stems. Julia prefers the no-dig method. Use a dibber or handle of a trowel to create a deep hole in the garden or raised bed and place a potato in the hole, cover lightly with soil and then a layer of straw. No need to hill or mound. Determinate varieties of potato make potatoes on one layer in the garden, so soil can be grown in a shallow container, and indeterminate varieties make many layers of potatoes, which will require deeper soil.  How to grow potatoes in a grow bag or container, even a recycling bin makes a great container. And you can line your driveway with them! The best way to harvest the potatoes and what to do for pest control.  Find Julia Dimakos online: Website: www.juliadimakos.com  Instagram: @juliadimakos YouTube: @gardeninggirl  Check out past shows with Julia and hear more of her great tips for growing herbs and more: All About Tomatoes Microgreens & Sprouting Tea Gardening for Beginners Growing Under Lights Growing Herbs Digging Deep with Veggies Growing Indoors Autumn Edibles Have a topic you'd like Joanne to discuss? Email your questions and comments to [email protected], or connect via her website at down2earth.ca. Find Down the Garden Path on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube: @downthegardenpathpodcast. Down the Garden Path Podcast On Down The Garden Path, professional landscape designer Joanne Shaw discusses down-to-earth tips and advice for your plants, gardens and landscapes. As the owner of Down2Earth Landscape Design, Joanne Shaw has been designing beautiful gardens for homeowners east of Toronto for over a decade. She does her best to bring you interesting, relevant and useful topics to help you keep your garden as low-maintenance as possible.  In Down the Garden Path: A Step-By-Step Guide to Your Ontario Garden, Joanne and fellow landscape designer Matthew Dressing distill their horticultural and design expertise and their combined experiences in helping others create and maintain thriving gardens into one easy-to-read monthly reference guide. Get your copy today on Amazon. Don't forget to check out Down the Garden Path on your favourite podcast app and subscribe! You can also catch the podcast on YouTube.

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• Perennial Plant Association with Ed Lyon

  This week on Down the Garden Path, Joanne Shaw speaks with Ed Lyon, president-elect of the Perennial Plant Association. About Ed Lyon Throughout his public garden administration roles and green industry experience, Ed has been as passionate about education as he is about horticulture. He has had roles in public garden education departments and served as director of three public gardens for twenty years. He retired from public garden service in 2024 and currently sits on the Perennial Plant Association (PPA) board as president-elect. Here are some of the topics discussed in this episode: The challenges of managing botanical gardens in different regions. The Fling, in Memphis, June 5-8 The Perennial Plant Association Annual Symposium in Asheville for the organization's 40th anniversary Includes educational sessions, tours, and networking opportunities for horticulture professionals Covers various aspects of the industry, from plant breeding to wholesale operations The association focuses on herbaceous plants that come back year after year, excluding annuals, tropicals, and woody plants. PPA’s role in promoting perennial plants through marketing and educational programs, including the selection of the Perennial Plant of the Year The perennial plant, Big Bluegrass, specifically the variety Blackhawks A native grass known for its dark purple to black stems Featured on PPA’s website A potential winner for next year's award The concept of native plants and their classification Native plants can mutate and change The term "native" does not necessarily imply purity The challenges of finding plants that are both native and non-invasive The importance of considering climate change in plant selection The PPA’s role in promoting plants that are readily available, hardy, and drought-resistant The process of selecting plants for the Perennial Plant of the Year award The PPA website: a valuable resource for gardeners seeking accurate information The value of attending horticultural symposiums and visiting gardens for education and inspiration How learning from other gardeners' experiences is often more valuable than books or online resources Staying updated with the latest horticultural research, as practices like tree planting methods have changed over time Climate change's impact on gardening and how the PPA symposium addresses these timely issues through expert speakers and research presentations Learn more about the Perennial Plant Association at perennialplant.org. Register for the 2025 PPA National Symposium here. Find them on Facebook @PerennialPlantAssociation and Instagram @PerennialPlantAssociation. Have a topic you'd like Joanne to discuss? Email your questions and comments to [email protected], or connect via her website at down2earth.ca. Find Down the Garden Path on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube: @downthegardenpathpodcast. Down the Garden Path Podcast On Down The Garden Path, professional landscape designer Joanne Shaw discusses down-to-earth tips and advice for your plants, gardens and landscapes. As the owner of Down2Earth Landscape Design, Joanne Shaw has been designing beautiful gardens for homeowners east of Toronto for over a decade. She does her best to bring you interesting, relevant and useful topics to help you keep your garden as low-maintenance as possible.  In Down the Garden Path: A Step-By-Step Guide to Your Ontario Garden, Joanne and fellow landscape designer Matthew Dressing distill their horticultural and design expertise and their combined experiences in helping others create and maintain thriving gardens into one easy-to-read monthly reference guide. Get your copy today on Amazon. Don't forget to check out Down the Garden Path on your favourite podcast app and subscribe! You can now catch the podcast on YouTube.

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