GET A LIFE w/ David and Vanessa

If you are like David, you have been completely obsessed with the Artemis II lunar flyby mission the last 10 days. If you are like Vanessa, you're like "why are they going to the moon but not even landing on it?"
So we decided to break our radio silence (of not having put out an episode in weeks) to argue about:
why humans explore space
what the moon mission has to do with the Toronto Blue Jays playing in the World Series last season
what Katy Perry actually did in space
whether our cover of Space Oddity is better than astronaut Chris Hadfield's
whether it matters if billionaires fund space travel because of altruism or egoism

We released a new single today called "Over You"!
In this episode we argue about:
what the song is or isn't about
what genre people seem to think this song is
what's the difference between punk and pop punk
are radio edits of songs still necessary today
what does David think of Vanessa's exes
does David ever wonder about his own exes
Listen to Over You now!

As we enter our final days of writing songs for our next album, Vanessa gets real vulnerable and plays a bunch of random song ideas recorded on her phone. Let us know what you think! And please sign the attached NDA.

This episode was recorded live from a car on the highway. As a result, it's the first ep to break our "no editing" rule, but honestly it sounded like garbage and was unusable if we hadn't cleaned up the audio.
When we finally got around to treating it we had released another episode, so this is also out of chronological order. But it was a fun discussion about the joys and perils of creativity and publishing personal works.
In this episode we also argue about:
why we made a podcast
why we make & release music 
why "creativity loves speed"
the roadblocks that slow creativity down
the fights we get into as a result

David and Vanessa argue about:
Overcoming writer’s block
How each of their writing styles have evolved over the years
Which of us is Charli XCX and which is Lorde
Are toplining or rhyme dictionaries cheating?
How songwriting is like an escape room