Scott and Dan Jones wrap up Season 4 with a guestless, unscripted year-end review recorded during an extreme Alberta cold snap. The episode opens with humour and disbelief at the weather before turning reflective, as the hosts acknowledge the impact of winter on unhoused communities and the serious human cost of extreme cold. With no set topic and no guest by design, the brothers look back on the conversations that defined Season 4—episodes that were meaningful not just to them, but to listeners who continue to share how specific guests resonated and sparked reflection. The episode also touches on the importance of friendship, routine versus growth, men’s mental health, and maintaining long-standing relationships—particularly for first responders. Scott and Dan reflect on the value of intentional time together, including their annual friends’ night tradition. A thoughtful, funny, and grounded conclusion to a season defined by meaningful conversations and human connection.
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Guestless by confusion- Season 4 Episode 16
In this unplanned guest-free episode, Scott and Dan dive into an early year-end wrap-up filled with family milestones, travel oddities, and the emotional whiplash of major life transitions. Dan shares the joyful news of becoming a grandfather, including a Thanksgiving surprise and a golf-ball gender reveal announcing a granddaughter due April 11. The brothers also explore the strange realities of flying—plane-triggered periods, forgotten Lysol wipes, and the high carbon-dioxide levels James Nestor discusses on the Tim Ferriss Show. Scott opens up about the deeply difficult shift into empty-nest life, recounting a raw, unforgettable cry in his car after moving his youngest out. The two discuss retirement adjustments, maintaining purpose through teaching and community, and learning to slow down without slipping into isolation. With humor, honesty, and their usual brotherly banter, this episode captures everything from holiday irritations to big-picture perspective—highlighting resilience, family connection, and the unexpected moments that define a year.
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A chat with Andrew Martin - Season 4 Episode 15
In this deeply honest and insightful episode, Just Us on Justice and Other Things hosts Scott and Dan Jones sit down with Andrew Martin, a veteran firefighter and paramedic who has spent two decades in service — and just as many years studying the human side of the job: stress, recovery, and what it means to stay well in a system that rarely slows down. Scott opens the episode by sharing a vulnerable story about his own recent nervous system crash — a moment of hypoarousal where he struggled to find motivation or energy. He recalls reaching out to Andrew, who offered reassurance drawn from lived experience and research. Their candid exchange sets the tone for an hour of reflection, science, and systems-level conversation about what happens when helpers hit their own limits. As always, the hosts remind listeners that these are personal opinions and reflections, not tied to any organization or department. The goal is to explore the systems behind the experiences of first responders, educators, and others working in high-stress environments — not to criticize any one agency.
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Intentionally Guestless. Season 4 Episode 14
In this episode, Scott and Dan sit riverside in Edmonton’s fall colors to tackle some big and timely issues. After scrapping a first attempt (because they realized they were “grossly wrong” on a key point), the brothers return with a candid conversation that blends politics, education, policing, and a call for compassion. Topics Covered Alberta Teacher Strike Why teachers are without a contract and heading toward a strike. Class sizes, class complexity, and the wage gap. How underfunding impacts not just teachers, but kids, families, and long-term social outcomes. Personal stories from inside the education sector and why being “pro-teacher” matters. Book Bans in Alberta From The Handmaid’s Tale to 1984: why banning books is never just about books. The slippery slope of censorship and distractions from real educational issues. Gun Buybacks in Canada Evidence from around the world: why buybacks don’t reduce crime. The problem of performative politics vs. evidence-based policing. New Edmonton Police Chief The appointment of Warren Dreichel. Mental health and wellness in policing—why it matters more than ever. The importance of second chances and leadership rooted in lived experience. Truth and Reconciliation Day Beyond checkboxes and land acknowledgments. Walking daily with Indigenous peoples in a spirit of love and compassion. Key Takeaways Education is the strongest crime prevention tool we have. Teachers are not babysitters—they’re professionals shaping the future. Political parties on both sides have failed educators, and it’s time for accountability. Performative policies, whether book bans or gun buybacks, don’t solve real problems. Compassion—in classrooms, police services, and communities—has to be our starting point. Closing Thought “Truth and Reconciliation isn’t a day—it’s how we live, walk, and honor history every single day.”
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A Chat With Chef Shane Chartrand - Season 4 Episode 13
In this episode, Scott and Dan welcome renowned chef Shane Chartrand to the table for a wide-ranging and heartfelt conversation. From humble beginnings in rural Alberta to competing on Top Chef Canada, Shane shares his journey through food, culture, and identity. Together they explore: 🌾 Shane’s early days growing up on a farm and how food first became his calling 🔥 His competitive spirit in culinary contests and the lessons learned from winning—and losing 🍲 Staying true to Indigenous roots in the world of fine dining and television 🌍 Traveling, learning from communities across Canada and beyond, and honoring cultural food traditions 💡 The challenges of representing Indigenous cuisine in mainstream culinary spaces ❤️ How food can heal, connect people, and preserve culture—from cooking with youth to dreaming of programs for the incarcerated 📚 His acclaimed cookbook tawâw and future plans for Indigenous culinary experiences in Edmonton This is more than a conversation about cooking—it’s about resilience, truth, and the power of food to bridge cultures and tell stories. 🔗 Connect with Chef Shane Chartrand Instagram | Facebook | TikTok: @shanemshartrand 📖 Book: tawâw: Progressive Indigenous Cuisine
Brothers, Scott and Dan Jones have both worked in the justice system for over 25 years. Their unique perspectives are often paired with remarkable guests they've met along the way. On this podcast they will discuss lived experiences, gaps and challenges in systems, stories of resilience and success, trauma informed justice, efforts and ideas to effect change, wellness strategies and much more. The topics, views and opinions discussed on this show are their own and are not representative of the current or former employers or affiliations.