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- Is it a plane or a helicopter? The MV-22 Osprey has features from both, but that’s not what makes it one of the most controversial aircraft in the American military. Its history of deadly crashes has earned it a reputation as a dangerous machine, but former Marine Corps pilot Bubba Scott takes a different view Today, Scott joins School of War to explain why he believes the Osprey is “unfairly maligned,” what makes it so revolutionary, why the Marine Corps depends on it, and what it takes to fly one of the most demanding aircraft in military aviation. From a terrifying near-collision to harrowing nighttime landings, Scott offers a rare look inside the cockpit—and the extraordinary skill, training, and leadership required to operate at the limits of modern military aviation.
04:11 – Becoming a Marine Osprey Pilot
09:05 – A Lesson in Marine Corps Toughness
12:54 – Why the Military Needed the Osprey
18:54 – Operation Eagle Claw and the Osprey's Mission
24:07 – Is the Osprey Really Dangerous?
27:07 – The Osprey's Safety Record
30:46 – What Is It Like to Fly an Osprey?
34:34 – The Challenges of Flying the Osprey
38:56 – A Near-Fatal Midair Collision
46:35 – America's Night-Flying Capabilities
50:18 – American Military Excellence
52:20 – Leadership Lessons From the Cockpit
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Reporting from northern Israel, Aaron sits down with two unidentified Israeli army officers and Druze community leader Tamir Murad to explore the threats facing the country’s northern frontier. From drones changing the battlefield to the plight of Syria’s Druze, their conversations reveal how closely war touches everyday life. As one Israeli army officer puts it, “There’s no distance between the front line and home. Home is the front line.”
01:10 — Tamir Morad on Israel’s Druze
02:50 — Four generations of service
07:28 — October 7
11:02 — Hezbollah rockets and tunnels
13:55 — Majdal Shams and Druze identity
17:29 — Violence in Suwayda
25:06 — A Druze state?
36:28 — Israeli officers on the 1973 war
39:57 — Lessons from Ukraine
42:07 — Hezbollah’s drones
50:02 — AI on the battlefield
54:15 — Israel’s Syrian buffer zone
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Will Iran cost Republicans the midterms? What happens when half of the GOP turns against Israel? Middle East expert Mike Doran returns to School of War for a wide-ranging discussion of these questions as the midterms threaten to widen divisions on the American right over foreign policy. Taking aim at Tucker Carlson’s influence, Doran argues that the consequences of this divide reach far beyond Israel: “It sets us against ourselves, Americans against Americans, conservatives against conservatives.” He and Aaron MacLean explore the stakes of another escalation with Iran and when it might unfold, the future of America’s alliances, and what it all means for 2028.
03:59 Trump’s Next Move on Iran
11:29 Can Trump Force a Deal?
17:24 What Iran Really Wants
20:26 Is Renewed War Inevitable?
26:58 Targeting Iran’s Refineries
30:36 Trump, Putin, and Russian Oil
37:55 Israel and Turkey’s Rivalry
45:05 The Fight Over Syria
51:35 The Right Turns on Israel
53:19 The Debate With the NatCons
1:00:09 What Should Conservatives Defend?
1:10:56 Can America Find the Center?
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - “It feels like an election where the nature of the country, the future of this foundational ethos of solidarity, is at stake,” says Haviv Rettig Gur. The Free Press Middle East analyst and host of Ask Haviv Anything joins Aaron MacLean in Jerusalem to explore the history behind the election’s deepest divisions. From Zionism’s origins as a rescue project to the military service that shapes its leaders, Gur explains the shared responsibility that built Israel—and why Israelis fear it is unraveling. What does Benjamin Netanyahu offer voters that his opponents don’t? And can a country united against its enemies agree on what it owes its own citizens?
02:05 What Is Zionism?
09:53 Herzl’s Warning
15:13 A Jewish Rescue Project
26:38 Visions of the Jewish State
30:24 Netanyahu’s Security Message
35:21 American Jews and Israel
43:32 Military Service and Political Power
47:41 The Foundations of Israeli Democracy
52:40 The Ultra-Orthodox Draft Fight
1:01:42 The Army and Israeli Identity
1:12:35 What’s at Stake in the Election?
1:21:23 Antisemitism in America
This episode of School of War is brought to you by Maven Smart System, the builder platform for the American warfighter, fielded across the force and live on the frontline today. Learn more at palantir.com.
This episode of School of War is also brought to you by Stratolaunch, a leading pure-play hypersonics company. Stratolaunch helps the U.S. and its allies move new hypersonic technologies from concept to capability, faster and cheaper. Learn more about how Stratolaunch is accelerating the future of hypersonics at Stratolaunch.com.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Sweden joined NATO in 2024. What took them so long? Historian Johan Wennström, author of The Stay Behinds: Sweden’s Cold War Guardians, joins Aaron MacLean to uncover how Sweden secretly collaborated with NATO for decades while remaining publicly neutral for fear the Soviet Union would invade Finland if they did. With Russia threatening Europe again, Wennström discusses the history of Sweden’s balancing act, how it built an army of sleeper cells, and whether NATO membership risks giving countries a false sense of security.
03:13 The Soviet Threat
08:00 Was Sweden Neutral?
15:52 Sweden in World War II
20:10 Sweden’s Military Might
20:50 Building the Resistance
25:11 Legalizing a Secret Army
28:35 Soviet Invasion Plans
33:05 The Resistance Leaders
37:09 Is Europe Prepared?
41:09 Was NATO a Mistake?
42:41 The Case for Deterrence
44:29 Preparing for Defeat
This episode of School of War is brought to you by Maven Smart System, the builder platform for the American warfighter, fielded across the force and live on the frontline today. Learn more at palantir.com.
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In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.
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Aaron MacLean is a former senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.
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