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Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche
Some Work, All Play
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    295. Debunking Low Carb Science for Endurance Athletes

    2026-1-27 | 1h 25 mins.
    We ordered extra-extra cheese before this deep-dive episode. The main topic took up most of the recording today, involving a new narrative review that argues for a low-carb approach for endurance athletes.
    The real-world performance benefits of carbs are clear for anyone who has traveled this path, but at the end of the day, who cares? It's just performance. The low-carb believers can get left behind and that's ok by us.
    The reason we are talking about this relates to health. The carb conversation is nuanced--it's not about taking in as many carbs as you can all the time, and their arguments point out legitimate discussions about how to balance fueling in training and life. But their arguments also infiltrate the broader discussion of nutrition, and anyone who works in this field sees what can happen on the other side.
    There is a boneyard of ruined careers from serious endurance athletes who have undershot carb intake. The negative mental and physical health outcomes from carb restriction take this out of the academic realm and into much more serious places. We love carbs because we love performance. But mostly we love carbs because we love people, and we want to see athletes be able to shine their lights as brightly as possible.
    Other topics on this episode: our approach to cross training, the incredible Beth McKenzie episode on the Freetrail podcast, Alex Honnold free soloing a skyscraper, a study tracking DEXA scan results with stress fracture outcomes, and we answer an important question from a listener about dealing with a tough health diagnosis.
    This one starts with a different tone as we grieve the terrible news from Minnesota. Thank you for being on this journey with us.
    We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    294. The Bicarb Revolution, Theory of Doubles, Vitamin D Supplementation, Stairmill Training, and Zone 2 Weirdness!

    2026-1-20 | 1h 25 mins.
    We loaded up on Vitamin D (and deodorant) before this fresh episode! The main topic was a new sodium bicarbonate study, tracking 40k bike time trial performance at altitude. It’s another brick in a really big scientific wall supporting the use of bicarb for performance. We zoom out to let you know why we think it’s also effective even in very long distances... and maybe at lower (cheaper) doses.
    We also talked about Vitamin D supplementation, using a big review study showing that over half of athletes had inadequate levels. Hit the ADEQUATE sign!
    And this one was full of great topics! Other topics: the power of taking 3 days off, an update on David’s health journey, arm band heart rate, our Nomio epiphany, shoe nerd news, a new analysis on running economy changes in different trail shoes, the Hopecore Corner with pieces of art we really like, a quick-hitter CBD study, improving bike power, the theory of doubles, a fun sports bra question, using the stairmill, heart rate zones, and whether to follow logic or the heart with race decisions.
    We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    293. Ultra Runner of the Year Rankings, Unintentional Low Carb Studies, Health Update, Continuous Lactate Monitors, and Blood Tests!

    2026-1-13 | 1h 30 mins.
    We got our big juicy pumps for this amazing episode! We started by talking about a couple pieces of personal news, including a shockingly cool number 4 ranking in the Ultra Runner of the Year voting... and some tough health findings from an MRI. The newest shoe review is a medical boot. It’s still better than most trail shoes.
    The big science discussion was on a pair of studies on advanced female runners, with both finding low carbohydrate intake on training days. One of the studies on elite athletes found that 94.3% had low energy availability! We broaden out the discussion into nutritional approaches generally. And David tries to broaden it out into a thinkpiece about the food pyramid. At a certain point, maybe your thinkpiece is so wrong that you eventually loop around and become right? Don't answer that.
    And this one was full of great topics! Other topics: our approach to training and health with the foot, a study on using heat training to substitute for other types of training, what we’d spend with $200 a month, how we are making money off AI, the Burrito League, some quick thoughts on continuous lactate monitors, Shelby Houlihan and Molly Seidel setting records at trail races, Raya for trail and ultra runners, sleep and FKTs, blood tests and training for downhills in a flat place.
    We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    292. The Countdown! Our 10 Most Important Training Studies of the Year

    2026-1-06 | 1h 26 mins.
    This was one of our all-time favorite episodes! We discussed takeaways from our 10 top endurance performance and health studies of 2025, full of science, recommendations, and debates. 
    We don’t want to give away the countdown, but this one had everything! We’re talking fueling, training, brain health, colon health, and shoes. You just know there had to be a shoe study. Running shoes are 92% of David’s personality. 
    Our mission was to summarize the science in a way that would help you take the research into the real world. We think that if you can stay 1-2 years ahead of widespread adoption of new scientific principles, you can always have an edge even as the world starts to catch up. Plus, it’s fun! Not as fun as a colonoscopy, but still fun!
    We also talked about 3 pieces of running news, including Shelby Houlihan’s first trail race, a new bicarb energy bar, and Ann Trason’s 100 mile performance. 
    We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    291. The Top 40 Predictions and Hot Takes for 2026!

    2025-12-30 | 1h 22 mins.
    This episode is full of the biggest predictions and most fun hot takes! We gathered 40 deep thoughts from listeners, and we had a blast responding to them all.
    Topics: just about everything related to running and endurance! We’re talking shoes, races, technology, media, training, strength work, culture, thermometers in sensitive places, and so much more.
    Thank you for being here for an incredible and unpredictable year. We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!
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