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Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche
Some Work, All Play
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    304. The Art of Steady Running, Pregnancy and Sponsorships, A Shocking TUE Dashboard, Heat and Heart Rate, Post-Exercise Ketones, and Bicarb!

    2026-03-31 | 1h 33 mins.
    We imagined doing PG-13 things to a very tasty gel before this great episode! The main training topic was a discussion of steady running. Lots of theory talks about “hard days hard and easy days easy.” But we think there’s a place for an addition: “medium days medium.” We discuss the rationale and timing of how to work steady running into a typical week.
    We also had a big discussion of pregnancy and sponsorships, after Emma Bates announced that she was no longer running for UCAN. We had a few days to calm down, so the angry rants are strong but less intense than they would have been last week. 
    And this one was full of fun topics! Other topics: ankle yeeting, colon health in runners (and David’s screening experience), our favorite gels, a data snack connecting sauna use to lower resting heart rate, a study on sodium bicarbonate’s effect on 5k performance, a big study on post-exercise ketones improving adaptation, a shocking TUE dashboard, hard candy to simulate the mouth rinse studies, depletion runs, hemoglobin levels, and lots more.
    Come for the science. Stay for David realizing that his takes are aggressively wrong. We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    303. The Weird Science of Carb Mouth Rinses, VO2 Max Limits, Fueling for Performance, Cross Training, and Cramp Prevention!

    2026-03-24 | 1h 31 mins.
    We put on our spacesuits for this great episode! The main topic was a study finding that just putting a dissolvable carb strip on the tongue could improve performance by 3% in a short time trial. What?! How can carb strips and mouth rinses improve performance? We discuss the weird implications of cephalic-phase responses. 
    And this one was full of amazing topics! Other topics: our first movie theater trip in 3.5 years, a discussion of low energy availability and fueling for performance, Keely Hodgkinson discussing gaining power before her recent world championship win, why cross training is the hottest training topic, Courtney Dauwalter doing GOAT things, a strange study on hot underwater biking, plus a Q+A on VO2 max limitations, the many meanings of “talent,” preventing cramps, fueling and menstrual cycle disturbances, inflammation and adaptation, and a hypothetical coaching academy. 
    May your saunas and tubs be even hotter than our astronaut costumes. We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    302. Mailbag Episode! The Fastest Shoe, Our Dream Study, Improving Testosterone Levels, Heat Training, Upper Body Lifting, and Lots More

    2026-03-17 | 1h 9 mins.
    We wore the best shoe ever before this mailbag episode! We opened it up to listener questions, diving into tons of tricky and fun topics.
    Topics this week: David’s first run in the shoe that’s changing road running, our eventful weekend, Omega 3 supplementation, the types of heat training we like, our dream study design involving bicarb and fatigue resistance, leptin levels, upper body lifting, improving low testosterone levels, coaching specialization, helping a teammate with REDs, treadmill training, building up volume, rest intervals, preparing for summer heat, and more!
    Thank you for getting us off the floor for this episode. We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    301. What To Do Pre-Race, How Metabolism Works For Athletes, Training Races, Colon Health for Runners, and a Great US Half Marathon Update!

    2026-03-10 | 1h 40 mins.
    We stocked up on neck floaties before this great episode! The main topic was a discussion of the constrained total energy expenditure model, which argues that physical activity will often have a smaller impact on energy expenditure than predicted. We do an interdisciplinary zoom-out to talk about how it relates to the research on low energy availability and within-day deficits. The conclusion: fueling the fire is key to prevent the fire from going cold.
    We also have an exciting update from the US Half Marathon Champs! People always deserve love and compassion. But systems respond to pressure.
    And this one was full of amazing topics! Other topics: our hot tub experiment continues (DO NOT DO THIS), strange nervous system responses to uphill treadmill workouts, the Canyons 100k, why we love the LA Marathon giving an option to stop at 18 miles and receive a finisher’s medal, a rant about people who are angry about “participation trophies,” what runners can learn from cyclists about pre-race training, colon health for runners, training race timing and approach, worries about outdoor risks when running, and lots more.
    Let’s stock up on some big boss meals and GET SOME. We love you all! HUZZAH!
    -David and Megan
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    For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap
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    300. A Shocking Disgrace at the US Half Marathon Champs and What Needs To Happen Next, Learning From Elite Cycling Training, and Optimism Science!

    2026-03-02 | 1h 29 mins.
    We're doing our first early-release episode to talk about the shocking ending of the US Half Marathon Championships on Sunday. As Jess McClain was charging to victory, with Emma Grace Hurley and Ednah Kurgat poised to make Team USA with her, all 3 athletes were directed off course by a police escort motorcycle, the official lead vehicle, and a media motorcycle. 
    The disgrace is what happened next. USATF (the governing body for US running) responded by shifting the blame to local organizers and failing to rectify the incompetence that created this situation. If USATF fails to act on behalf of athletes, the leadership has to change.
    Plus, there were so many other amazing topics for episode 300! Other topics: a discussion on elite athlete training in cycling and what that might mean for training theory for everyone else, a new gel we love, a cool study on optimism and longevity, “gravel” shoes, and a question about taking bicarb at night. It was all mixed with the usual shenanigans and fun!
    Thank you all for being here for this wild ride. We love you all! HUZZAH!
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    For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap

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About Some Work, All Play

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!
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