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Why Gevo believes low-carbon ethanol and carbon capture are the foundation for scaling alcohol-to-jet SAF
2026-09-17 | 50 mins.In this episode, we speak with Paul Bloom, CEO of Gevo, who shares how low-carbon fuels, carbon capture, and technology are coming together to accelerate aviation’s path to net zero.
He discusses:
Why Gevo stepped away from the DOE loan guarantee: The DOE loan guarantee was always one of several potential financing options for Gevo. When enhanced oil recovery (EOR) for Gevo’s CO2 co-product became a requirement, the lack of oil and gas infrastructure in North Dakota made it difficult to secure a bankable offtake agreement. Gevo is now pursuing private credit and bank financing for its ATJ-30 project.
Carbon as a second product line: For every ton of fuel, Gevo also produces about a ton of CO2, which is sequestered and stored more than a mile underground. This helps cut the fuel’s carbon intensity by a little over 30 points, and the stored carbon also generates removal credits that Gevo sells to corporate buyers.
Tracking how the fuel was made: Gevo’s Verity platform uses distributed ledger technology to track inputs in the fuel production process, bringing transparency, traceability, and trust to the fuel’s entire carbon story.
The case for regional SAF supply: Rising jet fuel prices and the global availability of carbohydrate feedstocks strengthen the case for regional supply of SAF. Bloom views ATJ-30 as the first in a series of modular plants that could be deployed across regional markets to meet the rising fuel demand.
If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Dr. Patrick Gruber, former CEO of Gevo. Check it out here.
Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume 2’. Click here to learn more.
Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.
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Gevo
SAF: Our cost-competitive synthetic aviation fuel can deliver sustainability - Gevo
Gevo North Dakota: Renewable fuels and carbon abatement - Gevo
Gevo advances BECCS strategy to meet rising demand for durable carbon removal - CarbonCredits.ComWhy GE Aerospace believes a sustainable future will be built across multiple technology frontiers
2026-09-03 | 27 mins.In this episode, recorded at the Farnborough Airshow 2026, we speak with Christoph Pereira, CEO of Software as a Service (SaaS), Aerospace Carbon Solutions and Sustainability at GE Aerospace, about how one of the world’s largest engine maker is using software, data and hybrid electric propulsion to decarbonise aviation.
He discusses:
Why GE Aerospace runs a software business alongside its engine franchise, and how software focused on safety, efficiency and resilience can leverage more capacity from constrained airspace immediately.
How GE Aerospace, NASA and BETA Technologies demonstrated hybrid-electric propulsion at 30,000 feet aboard a modified Saab aircraft.
How the collaboration with BETA, struck less than a year earlier, put a jointly developed turbogenerator on display in BETA’s autonomous MV250 eVTOL at the Farnborough Airshow. The vehicle offers a longer range, higher speed and much lower cost than traditional helicopters.
How tools like SIGNPOST help airlines with environmental compliance at the lowest marginal cost, whilst DecisionX delivers aviation-specific weather insight on contrails, icing and turbulence.
How GE Aerospace’s FLIGHT DECK manages a 20-year engine development cycle alongside six-month software builds.
If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Kyle Clark, Founder and CEO of BETA Technologies, who shares the realities of bringing electric aircraft into operation. Check it out here.
Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume 2. Click here to learn more.
Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website simpliflying.com/green and join the movement. It’s about time.
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GE Aerospace
NASA, GE Aerospace work enables hybrid-electric flight demonstration - NASA
GE Aerospace partners with NASA, BETA Technologies, and Boeing on world’s first high-altitude hybrid electric flight - GE Aerospace
BETA Technologies unveils MV250, delivering greater range, higher speed, and lower costs for military logistics - BETA TechnologiesWhy the GREATER MSP Partnership sees regional collaboration as the key to scaling SAF
2026-08-20 | 46 mins.In this episode, we speak with Julia Silvis, Managing Director of Research and Intelligence at the GREATER MSP Partnership, the economic development partnership for the Minneapolis Saint Paul (MSP) region region that built and leads the Minnesota sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) Hub, a first-of-its-kind coalition working across the entire SAF value chain from feedstock to the airport fuel supply.
She discusses:
Working supply and demand together: How the Minnesota SAF Hub’s defining feature is that it operates on both sides (supply and demand) of the market, giving it visibility into bottlenecks before any individual producer runs into them.
How Delta Air Lines brought SAF to an economic development group: The story of Delta approaching GREATER MSP after its 10% SAF by 2030 commitment, and how interest from Xcel Energy, Cargill and Ecolab convinced the organisation there was something worth building.
Getting the first truckload from camelina to wing: The three-month effort that moved SAF made from local winter camelina to MSP airport, and what it taught the hub about blending capacity, infrastructure and trust.
Horizons, not just a billion-gallon goal: Why the Hub’s has set a target of 1 billion of SAF by 2050, and why it has been broken into three gradual “horizons”: ongoing uplift at MSP, in-state production by around 2030, and multiple pathways by 2035.
Defending regional hubs and asking for federal stability: Why Silvis believes building things in the real world is harder at the federal level, how regional hubs customise rather than duplicate, and why policy consistency over 10-15 years matters more to producers than any single credit.
If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Bruce Fleming, CEO of Montana Renewables, who shares how one of the largest SAF producers scaled its operations by leveraging existing infrastructure rather than starting from scratch. Check it out here.
Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume 2’. Click here to learn more.
Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our websiteand join the movement. It’s about time.
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Minneapolis Saint Paul Economic Development - Greater MSP
Minnesota SAF Hub
Delta joins Minnesota leaders to celebrate opening of new SAF blending facility serving MSP - Delta Air Lines
Airbus to Invest in Minnesota Sustainable Aviation Fuel Hub - Twin Cities Business
Delta Air Lines operates 1st Airbus A321 SAF flight from Minneapolis-St. Paul to New York LaGuardia - Simple Flying- In this episode, we speak with Jan Petter Steinland, Director of Strategic Analysis and Transformation at the Civil Aviation Authority Norway, about how the administrative body is building an ecosystem for electric and hybrid aviation.
Steinland discusses:
Why a regulator is leading, not an airline: How CAA Norway and Avinor built the test arena without a launch customer, arguing that backing one airline would narrow the field before anyone knows which technologies will succeed.
Learnings from 126 electric flights: BETA Technologies and Bristow Norway ran a trial for electric flights for six months between Stavanger and Bergen.
The real charging challenge: Turnaround time is mostly a question of charging power, but consecutive charging heats batteries over a long operating day. Steinland believes global standardisation on battery cooling approaches are needed as varying solutions at every airport are unlikely to scale.
Norway’s SAF mandate: How Norway set the world’s first blending mandate starting at 0.5%, to prove that blending could be regulated, reported and followed up.
Norway’s international test arena for zero‑ and low‑emission aviation: How agreed learning objectives and an open, cross-industry scope set the test arena apart from a closed environment built around one manufacturer.
If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Kyle Clark, Founder and CEO of BETA Technologies, who discusses the realities of bringing electric aircraft into operation. Check it out here.
Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume 2’. Click here to learn more.
Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.
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Civil Aviation Authority Norway
Norway completes its first electric aviation test project - CAA Norway
Test arena operations kick off in Norway with first flight of all-electric ALIA aircraft - CAA Norway
Norway takes the next step as an International Test Arena with Bristow Group and Electra - PR Newswire - In this special compilation episode, recorded live at the Farnborough International Airshow 2026, nine aviation leaders share their perspectives on what the future of flying will actually look like, and who is building it.
Featuring insights from:
Kyle Clark, Founder & CEO, BETA Technologies
Tom O’Leary, CEO & Co-founder, JetZero
Daniel Rosen Jacobson, Co-CEO & Co-founder, Elysian Aircraft
Marc Allen, CEO, Electra.aero
Allison Melia, VP - Sustainability, Boeing
Luke Farajallah, CEO, Loganair
David Stepanek, EVP & Chief Transformation Officer, Bristow
Jennifer Holmgren, CEO, LanzaTech
Christoph Pereira, CEO - SaaS, Aerospace Carbon Solutions & Sustainability, GE Aerospace
Together, they explore what sets their approaches apart, the overlooked opportunities in sustainable aviation, and where the industry is headed next.
Throughout the episode, the leaders discuss the different paths the industry is taking towards the same goal: fully electric and hybrid-electric aircraft for short and regional routes, new airframe shapes that cut fuel burn on longer ones, and sustainable aviation fuel made from waste carbon.
This is a compilation of highlights from nine in-depth conversations. Stay tuned for the full interviews on our Sustainability in the Air knowledge hub.
If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love all the conversations we had through the year with dozens of industry executives, technology leaders and scientists. Check out the archive here.
Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air: Volume 2’. Click here to learn more.
Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.
Sponsor message: All of SimpliFlying’s coverage from the Farnborough Airshow 2026 is brought to you by CAE, whose leadership in aviation training and commitment to advancing safety continue to support the industry’s highest standards of excellence.
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Aviation has many paths to net zero, and few are straightforward. Sustainability in the Air cuts through the noise with clear, expert-led conversations on what’s actually advancing a more sustainable future for flight in one of the hardest sectors to decarbonise.💚 Twice a month, SimpliFlying CEO Shashank Nigam speaks with airline, airport, travel, and energy leaders to unpack the decisions shaping aviation’s climate future.💚 Each month, our Head of Sustainability Dirk Singer adds a Signal episode spotlighting the tech founders building aviation’s next wave of climate innovation.Whether you work in aviation, advise it, or simply care about the future of travel, this podcast is for you.For enquiries: podcast@simpliflying.comFor more content on sustainable aviation, visit simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.
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