#399 Nellie Wartoft: Global Fix—Change Management Without the Migraine — Part Two
Nellie Wartoft is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a change enablement platform built for teams tired of stale workshops and change theater. In Part One, she takes us from her tiny hometown in Sweden to the boardrooms of Asia, where flipping burgers at McDonald’s, carrying an ice hockey trunk to Singapore, and watching companies struggle with real transformation all shaped her mission. This is change management with edge—equal parts adventure, insight, and rebellion.Key Highlights of Our InterviewChange Theater vs. Real Impact“Most companies don’t fail at change because of bad tools. They fail because they bring people in too late and communicate like robots. Change has to feel human to work.”Same Emotions, Different Timelines“Fear, chaos, resistance—these show up everywhere, regardless of geography. The real difference is how cultures structure leadership and how fast they move. The U.S. wants speed. Asia wants legacy. Both come with tradeoffs.”Ego: The Silent Killer of Transformation“The higher the ego of a leader, the lower the success rate of their transformation. Fear of feedback, obsession with control—it turns a team into a compliance machine instead of a change engine.”Tech Isn’t the Problem—Leadership Is“People love apps—just not the ones that feel forced. If your tools aren’t solving real problems or making life easier, the issue isn’t the platform. It’s the person who bought it.”Walking the Talk at Tiger Hall“We use our own platform to manage internal change. No Zoom fatigue, no death-by-Slack. One short recording can replace hours of town halls and still hit harder—because it’s fast, direct, and straight from the source.”_________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Nellie Wartoft
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1.5% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#398 Nellie Wartoft: Global Fix—Change Management Without the Migraine — Part One
Nellie Wartoft is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a change enablement platform built for teams tired of stale workshops and change theater. In Part One, she takes us from her tiny hometown in Sweden to the boardrooms of Asia, where flipping burgers at McDonald’s, carrying an ice hockey trunk to Singapore, and watching companies struggle with real transformation all shaped her mission. This is change management with edge—equal parts adventure, insight, and rebellion.Key Highlights of Our InterviewSweden, Cows, and a One-Way Ticket“On my 18th birthday, I booked a one-way flight to Singapore, packed my life into an ice hockey trunk, and left my small Swedish village—where the cows outnumbered the people. That was the real beginning of everything.”From Fries to Founder: Discovering Her Professional DNA“I call McDonald’s my most transformative experience. That’s where I learned what I now call my three professional addictions: high pace, commercial thrill, and leadership. Everything I’ve done since started there.”The Real Meaning of Resilience“Workshops don’t build resilience. Hard times do. Either you win, or you build character. That’s the trade-off. And the only way through it is through it.”Don’t Build Your Identity on a Job Title“If your sense of self is built on a title, what happens when that’s gone? I don’t define myself by being a CEO. I define myself as someone who works hard, learns fast, and has good intentions. That can’t be taken away.”Why She Launched Tiger Hall (Spoiler: It Involves SharePoint Rage)“Too many companies still think change means mass emails, intranet black holes, and jargon-filled PDFs. I wanted to build a platform that makes transformation actually work—for real humans, not just consultants.”_________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Nellie Wartoft
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1.5% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#397 Colin Savage: Why Skill Stacking Is the New Lifelong Learning — Part Three
In this final part, we go beyond buzzwords. Colin breaks down how to make AI work for you—not replace you. He explains how human intelligence and machine intelligence can combine to create authentic, enhanced value. From warning students not to cheat with ChatGPT to showing executives how to tailor their own AI strategy, Colin’s message is clear: You don’t need every tool. You need the right ones—and a deeply human way to use them.Key Highlights of Our Interview:You Don’t Need Every Tool—Just the Right Ones“People want a silver bullet—one AI tool that solves everything. But like any good toolbox, the magic lies in how tools are combined and applied, not how many you have.”Skill Stacking Isn’t Hoarding—It’s Connecting“Collecting skills is easy. What matters is how you use them together. Communication, judgment, and emotional intelligence are what give your technical know-how real power.”Human Intelligence = Authenticity“AI might write your speech, but it’s your lived experience that makes it land. Audiences can smell a fake. Human intelligence—time-tested, real, and grounded—is irreplaceable.”The Penalty of Skipping the Work“If a student uses AI to cheat, they fail. If a banker uses it to write a pitch, it could be fraud. As stakes rise, so do the consequences of skipping the human part.”Authentic + Artificial = Amplified“When human intelligence and AI align, you don’t just get automation—you get amplified value. That’s the combo to aim for: authentic, enhanced, and scalable.”_________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1.5% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#396 Colin Savage: Why Skill Stacking Is the New Lifelong Learning — Part Two
In this episode, Colin deconstructs the romanticism of “lifelong learning” and makes a sharp case for skill stacking—not as a buzzword, but as a career imperative. From the strategy rooms of Japan to the boardrooms of Canada, he unpacks the realities of navigating change in cultures, families, and workplaces. Plus, why some organizations say they want transformation but are actually addicted to the comfort of legacy systems. If you’re tired of collecting degrees that lead nowhere, this one’s for you.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Illusion of Change-Readiness“Some companies claim they want transformation, but really, they’re just addicted to the status quo. I’ve seen firms hire me as their ‘change guy,’ only to resist every proposal I made. You can’t retrofit a new future if people are still clinging to an old playbook.”Measured, Not Maniac: Change the Japanese Way“In Japan, change isn’t chaotic—it’s deliberate, strategic, and often unspoken. Success meant listening, researching, and quietly building allies one by one. Change doesn’t have to be noisy to be real.”No More MBA Decisions in a Vacuum“Career decisions ripple through families. Too often, we forget that behind every ‘yes’ to an opportunity is a spouse, a child, or a life partner who wasn’t asked. Real transformation involves everyone at the table.”Lifelong Learning Is a Vibe—But It’s Not Enough“Learning for learning’s sake isn’t a strategy. Without direction, it becomes a distraction. The future belongs to those who don’t just keep learning, but stack those learnings to build something sharper, deeper, and more useful.”Skill Stacking vs. Degree Collecting“My bookshelf has diplomas and dust-covered guitars. Not all knowledge needs to be monetized—but if you want to be valuable in a complex world, stack your skills like a staircase. That’s how you move up and across.”Tools, But No Toolbox?“We live in a tool economy. Got a problem? There’s an app for that. But most people aren’t solving root issues—they’re patching over symptoms. Without connecting your skills with insight, it’s just noise.”Personal vs. Professional Learning“Skill stacking is for the professional you. Lifelong learning is for the human you. You don’t need to turn your love of modern African history into a job. Sometimes learning is just for joy—and that’s okay.”From Change Addict to Change Architect“I used to go full throttle. Now I slow down, talk more, and push less. Change is a collective journey. It doesn’t matter how fast you’re driving if no one’s willing to ride with you.”_________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1.5% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#395 Colin Savage: Why Skill Stacking Is the New Lifelong Learning — Part One
If reinvention were a passport, Colin Savage’s pages would be full. From global projects across seven countries to helping old-school industries like Japanese insurers modernize with tact, Colin’s career isn’t just built on change—it thrives on it.In Part One, we go deep on the difference between chasing novelty and building purpose. Colin dismantles the dated idea of “lifelong learning” and replaces it with something sharper: skill stacking. You’ll also hear how he developed change muscles by moving countries, industries, and ideas—without ever losing sight of what matters.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Purpose Behind the Pivot“Change is exciting—but if there’s no deeper reason behind it, it’s just noise.” Why purpose should lead, not lag, behind transformation.Skill Stacking vs. Lifelong Learning“Lifelong learning sounds noble—but it’s often aimless. Skill stacking is intentional.” Colin’s case for mastering combinations over collecting badges.Japan: Where Change Means Patience“In the Japanese life insurance industry, I learned that fast isn’t always smart.” Why transformation in traditional sectors demands humility and consensus.The Trap of Unfinished Adventures“You can jump into change for the thrill—but it’s the follow-through that matters.” Why Colin says completion is underrated in careers.Addicted to Change? Own It.“I love novelty—but I’ve learned to pair it with discipline.” Colin’s method for staying curious without burning out._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1.5% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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