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306. How to Build Sustainable Revenue That Doesn't Cost You Your Life with Natalie Ellis
2026-11-03 | 1h 7 mins.Save your seat in this 2-part workshop series that turns your “I wish I could quit my job” into a specific, actionable plan to get you out of your job in 90 days or less. Get access here: https://herfirst100k.com/ffpod.
Today I'm sitting down with Natalie Ellis, mom, CEO, and founder of Boss Babe, and author of the New York Times bestseller The Freedom-Based Business Method. Natalie built a multimillion-dollar company and then realized she'd been running it on an aggressive growth playbook for a business she never planned to sell. We get into why burnout isn't a badge of honor, why the median follower count in Natalie's survey of six-figure-plus business owners will shock you, and the three boring things that actually make a business work. If you run a business, want to start one, or just keep buying courses hoping the next one fixes it, this is your episode.
Natalie’s Links:
Websites: https://www.bossbabe.com/ ; https://www.natalie-ellis.com/ Book: https://bookshop.org/a/90037/9781401997373
Mentioned during the show:
How to Reinvent Yourself (Without Losing Yourself) with Sophia Amoruso: https://herfirst100k.com/financial-feminist-show-notes/reinventing-yourself-sophia-amoruso/
The Rise and Fall of the Girlboss: https://www.diabolicalliespod.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-girlboss
00:00 Intro
04:30 Is burnout the price of hustle? Energy-giving vs. energy-draining work
08:00 Why "more organization" isn't the fix: the three questions your business runs on
10:30 Big decisions vs. small ones, in business and personal finance
12:00 Natalie's Trojan horse course strategy
15:00 Tori's viral video and the 100,000 email subscribers
18:00 Building on land you own: why email beats followers
20:00 Shiny objects: new products, new platforms
26:00 One platform, one offer, and why you can't over-market a product
29:00 What to cut first: start with your data
31:00 Offer, funnel, traffic (build, borrow, or buy an audience)
34:00 Getting off the treadmill: executive retreats and "what do you want?"
37:00 Leaving easy money on the table
40:00 Seasons of sprint and giving yourself grace
44:00 Building for freedom when you're just getting started
47:00 The responsibility nobody posts about
52:00 The Boss Babe name, ten-plus years later
54:00 Hustle culture, soft life, and tradwife content
62:00 What successful women entrepreneurs know
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices- You told us Financial Foundations was your favorite series, so we brought it back. Presented by State Farm, these are short, actionable episodes, each one covering a single personal finance pillar and giving you one thing to go do. We're following along with my book, Financial Feminist, so if you have a copy, pull it out. In episode one, I'm walking you through your first money memory, the exact order to tackle your financial goals, and how to actually stay consistent with a monthly money date. If you've ever asked "Okay, but what do I do first with my money?", start here.
To find all of the resources mentioned in this episode including my free money quiz and my partner recommendation for your emergency fund), visit: https://herfirst100k.com/ffpod.
00:00 Intro
01:03 Welcome to Financial Foundations
02:17 Your financial narrative and your first money memory
03:54 How your money memory shows up today
06:05 The financial order of operations
06:56 Why your emergency fund comes first
08:26 Priority two: high-interest debt
09:18 Priority three: investing for retirement and paying down low-interest debt
10:04 Priority four: saving for the big stuff
11:04 Staying consistent and the ostrich effect
12:37 Financial self-care and the money date
13:33 How to run your money date, step by step
15:15 Your homework: the money diary
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Today’s episode is so valuable, we decided to run it back. It's all about unlocking what I truly believe is the easiest money you will ever make — and yes, it’s as simple and lazy-girl-friendly as it sounds. I’m breaking down the one passive income strategy that requires zero extra hours, zero new skills, and absolutely zero stress: a high-yield savings account. If you’ve ever wished you could make money while taking a nap, running errands, or sipping a drink on the beach, this episode shows you exactly how to make your existing money work harder for you, without sacrificing your already-packed schedule.
Looking for a HYSA? We've done the research for you. See our partner recommendation (terms apply): https://herfirst100k.com/ffpod
00:00 Intro
01:14 The Problem with Checking Accounts
02:44 Why High-Yield Savings Accounts Matter
04:21 How to Set Up and Use a HYSA
08:44 The Power of Earning Interest
09:23 Using HYSA for Emergency Funds & Goals
10:22 Overcoming Myths & Fears
12:24 Making Money Passively
14:03 Is My Money Safe?
15:10 Final Thoughts & How to Get Started
Visit https://herfirst100k.com/ffpod to stay up to date and find any resources mentioned on our show!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - If you're carrying credit card balances and haven't looked into whether a lower-rate option is available, see if our debt-tool can help you: https://herfirst100k.com/ffpod.
What if the easiest business to start this year is one you could begin with a single DM? Justin Moore, sponsorship coach, founder of Creator Wizard, and author of Sponsor Magnet, has earned over $5 million in brand partnerships with his wife April, and spent seven years running an ad agency where he heard what brands say about creators behind closed doors.
We cover why building an audience may be the most AI-proof business you can start, why a tiny niche audience can out-earn a huge one, how to answer “what’s your rate?” without losing money, and the contract words that should make you run. If an extra couple thousand dollars a month would change your life, this episode shows you one way to get it.
Justin’s Links:
Website: https://www.sponsormagnet.com/
Also mentioned in this episode:
This Mistake Cost Me $500,000: https://herfirst100k.com/financial-feminist-show-notes/my-500k-mistake/
Jasmine Star: How to Build a Business from Nothing: https://herfirst100k.com/financial-feminist-show-notes/how-to-build-a-business-from-nothing/
00:00 Intro
01:18 Why building an audience is the most AI-proof business
03:03 You don’t have to be an “influencer” to do this
08:29 Side hustling the 5-to-9
11:05 What you actually need to start (one person)
14:37 Why Justin started calling out the gatekeepers
17:03 What running an ad agency taught him about how brands pay
19:37 Who undercharges most
24:55 How to answer “what’s your rate?”
29:10 Justin’s 8-step partnership system
38:53 Contract red flags: perpetuity, exclusivity, out clauses
43:46 Why Justin says don’t hire a manager
48:47 My half-million-dollar agency mistake
53:32 The $1 million math on a 20% cut
54:24 Rapid fire: free product, worst pitches, follower myths
58:37 One thing every creator should do today
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Why do we keep repeating patterns that don’t serve us? Today I'm sitting down with Sabrina Zohar, relationship coach, host of The Sabrina Zohar Show, and author of the new book Why Am I Like This, to figure out why. We’re talking about the unconscious programming behind how we handle love, conflict, rejection, and even our own success. If you've ever over-given, stayed too long, or known exactly what you were doing while doing it anyway, you're in the right place. Sabrina walks through two questions that can interrupt an old belief before it makes a present-day decision, what self-abandonment looks like on a random Tuesday, and how all of it shapes what you think you're allowed to ask for and earn. You will feel seen. You will also feel a little called out. Share it with every woman in your life.
Sabrina’s Links:
Website: https://sabrinazohar.com/
Book: https://sabrinazohar.com/book
Learn the exact strategies to save money, pay off debt, improve your money mindset, and increase your net worth. Get your personalized plan: https://herfirst100k.com/ffpod.
00:00 Intro
01:35 The pattern women swear isn't a pattern
02:40 Window of tolerance and why discomfort feels unbearable
08:10 The texting spiral, and the two questions that interrupt it
13:20 173 texts: what Sabrina understands about her younger self now
17:00 Gut vs. anxiety (does the pinch match the ouch?)
19:05 Being attached to the story of a relationship
22:55 Finding the belief underneath the behavior
27:45 When your "logical" brain makes the worst decisions
31:20 Getting out of your head and into your body
32:30 Hiring out of fear, and learning to trust yourself
41:35 What self-abandonment looks like on an ordinary day
44:30 Saying no, boundaries, and grieving who you lose
49:10 You're allowed to outgrow people
51:00 How worthiness shapes what you ask for and earn
56:15 Moving through shame instead of ruminating
66:05 Healing doesn't mean never getting triggered
70:05 What to do the moment you notice yourself shrinking
73:40 The self-trust marble jar
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Join money expert Tori Dunlap every Tuesday as she guides you on how to make more, spend less, and feel financially confident in a world run by rich white men. Through solo episodes and special guest interviews, you’ll walk away with resources to get, save, and grow money to gain financial freedom and kick some patriarchal ass at the same time.
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