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Carlee Collins grew up in Pennsylvania with a mother who was in the game and a father who worked hard to provide. By 11 years old, he was using drugs and running the streets. At 16, he caught a murder case and was sentenced to life in Pennsylvania state prison. He would spend the next 30 years behind bars, where he completely transformed his life. After changes in the law gave juvenile lifers a chance at parole, Carlee finally walked out of prison after three decades inside.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro: 30 Years for a Teenage Homicide
00:43 Growing Up in Pittsburgh's Hill District
01:44 Family Dynamics and Parents' Influence
04:30 First Joint and Turning to the Streets
06:02 The Allure of the Drug Game
08:20 Mixed Messages: Mom's Hustle vs. Dad's Warnings
11:00 School Fights and Downward Spiral
12:10 Regrets and Rechanneling in Prison
14:20 Teenage Personality: Loyalty, Impulse, and Violence
16:52 A Close Call: Shootout Over a Robbery
19:11 PrizePicks Ad
20:52 Would Arrest Have Changed His Path?
21:41 Learning Law and Education in Prison
23:50 Juvenile Detention vs. Mentorship
25:20 The Problem with Scared Straight
27:45 The Day of the Crime
28:25 Arrest, Investigation, and Going on the Run
33:12 Getting Caught and Interrogation
36:10 Charges and the Co-Defendant's Betrayal
37:20 Juvenile Court and Facing Life
38:40 Life in Juvenile Detention
40:43 Visits and the Reality of the Case
41:48 Hungryroot Ad
43:29 Fighting the Case: Lawyers and Costs
46:00 The Trial: Three Days, No Physical Evidence
49:12 Guilty Verdict and Sentencing
51:42 Miller v. Alabama: A Glimmer of Hope
53:43 Starting Life in Maximum Security
55:20 Mentors and the Law Library
58:00 Avoiding Prison Drama and Staying Focused
01:00:47 Perspective Shift: Prison vs. Streets
01:02:54 Why It Took Prison to Change
01:04:53 The Difference Between Street Life and Prison Life
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01:09:11 The Heartbreak of a Life Sentence
01:11:48 Hope vs. Acceptance in Prison
01:12:40 Appeals and Denials
01:14:16 Resentenced: 30 to Life
01:16:57 The Hardest Year: Final Stretch and Parole
01:19:02 Fear of Freedom and Rebuilding Relationships
01:21:02 Adjusting to the World: Tech, Bills, and People
01:23:44 Loss of Parents and Brother
01:26:36 Disappointments of Freedom
01:29:40 The Rudeness of Society
01:31:17 Happiest Moments and New Love
01:32:54 Feeling the 30 Years
01:34:40 Helping Others: Fresh Start Haircuts and Mentorship
01:37:35 Making Peace with the Victim's Family
01:39:40 Current Mental State and Building a Family
01:43:00 The Value of a Stable Relationship
01:46:22 What He Knows Now at 16
01:48:30 Outro and Final Thoughts
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Jaida Diana Scaife grew up in California with an absent father and a mother struggling with addiction. She turned to drugs and the streets at a young age, fell into toxic relationships that pulled her deeper into that world, and eventually found herself in Nevada dealing drugs and working as an escort. After catching a drug case in North Dakota that led to a federal investigation, Jaida went on the run from the feds for an entire year before she and her boyfriend were finally caught. She was sentenced to 6 years in federal prison.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and Jaida's Story
00:44 Sponsored: Locked In Merch
01:32 Growing Up in Fort Bragg
02:07 Family and Addict Parents
02:44 Happy Childhood
04:32 Childhood Dreams
05:05 Normalizing Dysfunction
06:50 Teenage Years and Early Drug Use
10:32 Homeless and Selling Pills
11:14 Moving to the City
13:37 Treatment and a New Boyfriend
14:42 Switching to IV Drugs
16:06 Feeling Abandoned by Family
17:53 Attracted to Bad Men
19:49 Sponsored: Weight Loss by HIMS
21:43 Life with the New Guy
22:24 Shooting Myself
24:18 Hospital and Police Encounters
25:52 Why Reno?
27:41 Transition to Escorting
29:06 Crazy Trick Stories
34:24 Life on the Streets
35:10 Years in Nevada
36:09 Meeting the Codefendant
37:36 Planning the North Dakota Trip
39:04 Drug Dealing in Fargo
41:31 The Informant and Arrest
43:40 Bail and Return to Reno
44:53 Sponsored: Cash App
47:05 The Indictment and Federal Case
49:48 Evidence and Charges
52:20 Warrant and Paranoia
53:37 Going on the Run
55:20 Life on the Run
57:28 No News Reports
58:14 The Standoff Begins
01:00:02 The Day of Arrest
01:01:21 Standoff and Negotiation
01:04:48 Calling 911
01:07:06 Surrender and No Bail
01:07:58 County Jails and Pretrial
01:09:12 Long Time in County
01:10:12 Why So Long in County
01:11:43 Cooperating and Safety Valve
01:13:39 Relationship with Codefendant
01:15:33 Mom's Struggles
01:18:38 Navigating County Jail
01:20:35 Routine and Exercise
01:23:09 Preparing for Federal Prison
01:25:12 Getting Off Drugs
01:29:40 Sentencing and 6 Years
01:31:04 Reaction to Sentence
01:32:14 Arrival at FCI Waseca
01:33:20 Prison Life and K2 Epidemic
01:36:36 Prison Relationships
01:37:04 Falling in Love in Prison
01:38:18 Loving a Life Sentence
01:41:05 Leaving and Staying Friends
01:42:22 Prison Dating and Food
01:44:37 Plans After Prison
01:46:42 Starting a New Career
01:47:03 Rebuilding Life After Prison
01:50:02 Importance of Moving States
01:51:54 Feeling Good Today
01:52:45 Family and Boundaries
01:54:37 Advice to Younger Self
01:55:40 Final Thoughts and Socials
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Jon Buehler spent 32 years with the Modesto Police Department, including more than 20 years as a homicide detective investigating murders and some of the most disturbing cases of his career. In this episode of Locked In with Ian Bick, Jon takes us inside the cases the public never heard about — what he saw at crime scenes, how detectives actually build a murder case, the details that never made the news or came out in court, and what more than two decades of investigating homicide does to the person behind the badge. He also shares his firsthand experience working the Scott Peterson case, one of the most widely followed murder investigations and trials in American history.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Meet John Buehler
00:43 Growing Up in a Cop Family
02:44 Choosing Law Enforcement
04:33 Understanding Modesto
05:55 The Shooting at the Stoplight
10:56 Crime Scene Diagrams and Mentorship
14:19 Becoming a Detective
15:15 The Elusive Sports Memorabilia Thief
26:36 Transferred to Homicide Unit
27:39 The Ice Chest Murder
38:18 Interview Techniques and the Bank Robber
44:56 When Confessions Are Hard
55:03 A Case That Still Haunts
57:46 Interviewing a Suspect
01:00:20 The Disappearance of Shanti
01:05:00 Delivering Death Notifications
01:14:32 Role in the Scott Peterson Case
01:22:23 Peterson Case Resurgance
01:23:15 Thoughts on Crime Documentaries
01:25:03 The Hammer Murder
01:30:56 An Unrelated Case Unfolds
01:39:00 Making Sense of Senseless Acts
01:43:33 Unsolved Cases and Cold Cases
01:47:29 Life After Homicide
01:49:10 Consulting and Media Commentary
01:53:20 Travel and Other Agencies
01:57:40 The Unforgettable David Case
02:02:38 Final Lessons and Reflections
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Nate Johnson grew up in Michigan, turned to the streets at a young age, and cycled in and out of juvenile detention and jail before a drug and robbery case sent him to Michigan state prison for 12 and a half years. But somewhere inside those walls, everything changed. He found his purpose, committed himself to rebuilding his life, and walked out determined to help others do the same. Today, Nate has built Michigan's largest reentry organization, co-founded the state's first reentry conference and a national reentry convening, and is now developing a "Reentry Ecosystem" aimed at changing how America approaches life after prison.
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Website: https://www.nextchapterssolutions.com/
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Timestamps:
00:00 A shooting on the street
00:26 Introducing Nate Johnson
00:54 Free merch and bonus content
01:44 Growing up in Muskegon
02:19 Dysfunctional family life
05:40 Trouble begins in fifth grade
08:41 Selling weed and stealing bikes
12:52 The crack trade and double-ups
20:24 Police raids and the setup
27:05 Arrest and false evidence
30:27 Returning home and family struggles
32:20 Connecting with dad over crack
34:11 Gang violence and losing Ted
37:27 Seeking revenge
38:30 Learning the drug trade
41:41 Armed robbery and prison sentence
45:27 The robbery detail and trial
47:50 Sentenced and to prison
49:26 First years inside
51:26 Reduced sentence and faith
56:17 Dad's warning and spiritual awakening
01:00:23 Transformation and purpose
01:04:50 Coming home and fresh start
01:06:53 Launching Re-entry United
01:09:40 Inside conferences and expansion
01:12:17 Next Chapter Solutions and tech
01:16:53 Housing and entrepreneurship
01:21:12 Impact and thankfulness
01:22:15 Navigating change in prison
01:25:52 Respect and authenticity
01:28:10 Fatherhood and affirmation
01:33:08 Parents' passing
01:37:52 Family and kids' names
01:46:48 Teaching life lessons to sons
01:49:47 Final thoughts and thanks
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Mike King started his career on patrol and SWAT with the Ogden City Police Department in Utah before becoming the lead investigator in the 1991 Zion Society case, involving a 120-member polygamist doomsday cult led by self-proclaimed prophet Arvin Shreeve. After a member came forward and revealed what was happening inside the group, Mike and his team launched a secret 24-day investigation that ended with coordinated raids on multiple homes, 32 children being removed from the group, and Shreeve and several members ultimately going to prison. Mike later led multi-agency task forces, served as Chief of Staff to the Utah Attorney General, trained in criminal profiling, and created Profiling Evil.
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Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick:
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Timestamps:
00:00 Mike King's Beginning
01:13 Growing Up in Salt Lake City
04:42 A Father's Legacy
05:31 Path to Law Enforcement
08:09 Applying Life Lessons
12:07 Surviving Electrocution
15:42 Early Days as a Cop
22:31 Impactful Calls
24:59 Life as a SWAT Officer
28:04 Finding Common Ground
30:00 Joining the DA's Office
34:49 The Encounter That Changed Everything
36:21 Understanding Cults
39:04 The Zion Society's Dark Secrets
45:46 Building the Case
48:48 Aaron's Courage to Leave
52:02 Dangerous Cult Leaders
54:18 Corroborating the Testimony
59:03 Adding the Bricks
01:01:45 Assembling the Evidence
01:05:44 Getting the Warrant
01:10:35 Why Not the FBI?
01:11:14 Keeping It Under Wraps
01:12:17 Planning the Raid
01:14:57 The Morning of the Bust
01:19:26 Finding the Hidden Weapons
01:22:32 Evidence and Money
01:24:15 Where Was the Leader?
01:25:03 Aftermath and Prosecutions
01:28:36 Sentencing and Justice
01:30:56 Career Evolution
01:32:50 The Satanic Panic
01:36:13 The Toll of the Work
01:38:38 Reconnecting with Survivors
01:46:31 A Path to Redemption
01:49:21 Retirement and Continued Career
01:51:27 Juries and Social Media
01:54:13 The Jury System at Risk
01:56:21 Advice to My Younger Self
01:58:04 A Family Mystery Solved
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