Locked In with Ian Bick

John Bunn grew up in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, and at just 14 years old was arrested for a murder he did not commit. His case was handled by NYPD Detective Louis Scarcella, whose investigative practices would later come under intense scrutiny in numerous wrongful-conviction cases. Despite Bunn and his 17-year-old co-defendant not matching the description of the shooters, both teenagers were convicted in 1992, and John was sentenced to 7 years to life. Behind bars, he taught himself to read, earned his GED at 17, and ultimately spent years fighting to prove his innocence. After being paroled in 2006, that fight continued for another 12 years until his conviction was vacated and all charges were dismissed in 2018. In 2020, New York City settled his wrongful-conviction lawsuit for $5.9 million.
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Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick:
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Timestamps:
00:00 Wrongfully Convicted at 14
00:34 Growing Up in Brooklyn
03:12 Anger and Illiteracy
06:18 Father's Murder
08:50 Arrest and Interrogation
14:00 Trial and Conviction
20:00 Sentencing and Prison
28:00 Life After Exoneration
38:00 The Guards and the Crime
45:00 Mother and Family
51:00 Stopping a Prison Assault
56:00 Release from Prison
01:03:00 Path to Exoneration
01:15:00 Adjusting to Freedom
01:28:00 Prison Life and Violence
01:38:00 Exoneration and Lawsuits
01:49:00 Advocacy and Public Speaking
01:56:00 Lessons Learned
02:03:00 Conclusion and Gratitude
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Ricardo Martinez II spent 13 years as a 911 dispatcher in Michigan — answering thousands of calls from people experiencing the worst moments of their lives. In this episode of Locked In with Ian Bick, Ricardo shares the heartbreaking, bizarre, funny, and unforgettable calls that stayed with him, what it takes to remain calm during life-or-death emergencies, the mental toll of the job, and why he ultimately decided to walk away after 13 years behind the phones. 
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Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick:
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Timestamps:
00:00 The Call That Never Left Him
00:44 Growing Up in Small-Town Michigan
04:21 Inspired by Rescue 911
05:39 Pulled Over on the Way to Senior Pictures
10:57 Hitting Rock Bottom
12:55 A Sign from the Radio
15:11 Moving to Frostproof, Florida
17:12 The 911 Dispatcher Interview
20:46 Sponsor: Cash App Security Lock
22:34 Starting the Job That Same Night
25:51 Harry's Three Rules
29:00 First Big Call: The Hanging
35:53 Visualizing Calls with Dispatch Ear
39:15 The Call That Went South
45:37 The Infant CPR Call
51:31 Reaching Out to Families
52:52 The Girl on Thin Ice
57:30 Taking His Own Grandmother's Call
01:07:34 The Acid Trip Caller
01:11:56 Bomb Threats and SWAT
01:16:55 Silly Calls: The Breathalyzer Request
01:26:03 The Call He Can't Unhear
01:35:09 Working on Himself
01:41:39 From Conference to #IAm911
01:53:52 Sounds That Transport You Back
02:00:53 Life Lessons from 911
02:08:27 The Yoga Call
02:11:49 Closing Thoughts
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John Constantine spent 23 years in the United States Secret Service, including 15 years on the elite Counter Assault Team protecting four U.S. presidents and carrying out high-stakes protective operations in nearly 90 countries. He rose through leadership roles overseeing CAT operations, the Joint Operations Center, and the Dignitary Protective Division before retiring in 2025. Now, as the author of Hallways and Stairwells, John opens up about the side of the Secret Service most people never see — the pressure, ego, mental health struggles, loss of identity, transition back to normal life, and what redemption looks like after more than two decades protecting others.
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Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick:
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Timestamps:
00:00 Counter Assault Team Intro
00:35 Growing Up in New Jersey
01:54 Wrestling and Rutgers
04:43 9/11 and Joining the Secret Service
07:28 Choosing the Secret Service
08:40 Secret Service Training
12:50 First Assignment: Newark
16:50 First Big Investigation
21:00 Compassion in Investigations
26:20 Interviewing Suspects
29:50 Corruption and Two-Tier Justice
34:00 Power, Morality, and Authority
38:50 Corruption in Protection
39:50 Joining the Counter Assault Team
43:00 Life on the CAT Team
44:50 Becoming a Real Boy
48:00 White House and Domestic Threats
50:30 Rising Threats in America
52:00 Inhibitions and MK Ultra
55:20 Psychology of Attackers
57:30 Interagency Coordination
01:01:00 Funny Stories from the Team
01:03:00 The Suicide Bomber Incident
01:05:00 Stories That Never Get Reported
01:07:50 Butler and Real-Time Operations
01:09:00 Overseas Threats and Counterintelligence
01:16:20 Per Diem and Hotel Security
01:18:20 Trusting People Overseas
01:20:40 Most Dangerous Countries
01:22:20 Schedules and Deployments
01:24:00 Campaign Season Pressure
01:26:30 Work-Life Struggle
01:29:20 Turning It Off
01:31:30 The Worst Part of the Job
01:33:00 Fighting the Establishment
01:36:30 Teaching and Innovation
01:38:50 Leadership and Compassion
01:41:50 The Hardest Part of Retiring
01:44:00 Loss of Identity and Suicide
01:46:50 Life After the Secret Service
01:49:00 Doing It All Over Again
01:51:50 Closing Thoughts
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Larry Barnhill went from track star, college graduate, and event promotion executive working around famous athletes and celebrities to becoming part of Atlanta's Morning Glory Boys — a highly organized crew that carried out bank robberies for nearly a decade. After being pushed out of his corporate career, Larry started selling drugs to fund a new business before being pulled deeper into the criminal world, where millions of dollars were at stake and bank heists became a way of life. Eventually, it all came crashing down. Larry was sentenced to 26 years — 312 months — in federal prison and served more than 22 years behind bars.
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Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick:
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction: The Bank Robber
00:55 Larry's Childhood & Family
06:56 Young Larry's Ambitions
09:24 College & Early Career
10:28 Life in Miami: Working with Celebrities
18:24 Never Imagined Prison
21:08 The Corporate Rejection
28:37 The Double Life
31:48 Entering the Bank Robbery Crew
45:28 The Training
50:41 The First Robbery
01:04:55 The Payday
01:08:11 Between Robberies
01:12:24 Cleaning Money & Communication
01:16:56 Close Calls
01:20:40 The Final Robbery
01:26:56 The Arrest
01:34:01 The Plea Deal
01:39:56 Prison Time
01:49:59 Thoughts on the Prison System
01:57:01 Deserving 26 Years
02:00:39 A Day in Prison He'll Never Forget
02:02:25 Release & Rebuilding
02:08:12 What He'd Tell His Younger Self
02:10:45 Restitution & Final Thoughts
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Elizabeth Guzman was a prosecutor when her husband Javier — a Tampa vice detective who made the DEA task force — was arrested for laundering money for the cartel and sentenced to 11 years in federal prison. She stood by him through the entire case and his decade behind bars, even finding a way to start a family while he was in federal custody. Elizabeth shares what it was like watching her husband get prosecuted by the same system she worked inside, why she stayed, and what 11 years of federal prison looked like from the other side.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction: Elizabeth's Story
01:15 Early Life in Tampa
07:45 Family Turmoil and Divorce
14:05 College and Finding Direction
19:00 Law School and Becoming a Prosecutor
24:00 Meeting Javier Undercover
30:00 First Date and Early Relationship
35:00 Javier's DEA Career and Operation Promo
42:15 Javier's Breakdown and Warning Signs
47:30 Learning of the Money and Legal Trouble
50:40 Marriage and Move to Homicide
52:00 The Arrest and Aftermath
58:30 Plea Hearing and Sentencing
01:02:00 Working as a Public Defender
01:07:00 Moving to North Carolina
01:12:00 Conceiving Their Son
01:15:00 Tragedy: Brother's Death
01:17:30 Prison Visits and Fatherhood
01:20:00 Father's Death and New Job
01:24:00 Reflections on Love and Faith
01:29:00 Final Thoughts on Good People and Bad Decisions
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