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This is our full interview with Pablo Torre.
We discuss how he uncovered the alleged scheme to funnel $48 million to Kawhi Leonard, why Steve Ballmer risked circumventing the NBA salary cap, how money was routed through companies tied to the Clippers, why the NBA handed Ballmer a historic punishment, whether he could be forced to sell the team, what happens if he goes to war with the NBA, and more.
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(00:19) - Model Mayhem

(13:12) - Why NVIDIA Bought Hugging Face

(23:55) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

(31:25) - Pablo Torre discusses his investigation into an alleged salary-cap circumvention scheme involving Clippers owner Steve Ballmer and Kawhi Leonard. The investigative journalist and host of Pablo Torre Finds Out explains the evidence, the NBA’s punishment, and why Ballmer’s threatened legal battle could further damage the team.

(55:06) - Mohit Aron is the founder of SaiFin and previously founded enterprise technology companies Cohesity and Nutanix. Aron discusses SaiFin’s mission to use AI to unify fragmented go-to-market context, support real-time decision-making, and serve companies of all sizes while keeping humans involved to ensure accuracy.

(01:01:09) - Akshay Narisetti, founder of Pocket, discusses building an AI-powered recording device that has sold 300,000 units by making professional note-taking more convenient and reliable than phone apps. He explains Pocket’s hardware, subscription model, privacy safeguards, specialized transcription technology, and plans for agents that turn conversations into reports, presentations, and other work products.

(01:18:12) - Hari Ravichandran, founder and CEO of consumer security company Aura, discusses the growing threat of AI-enabled scams, identity theft, and data breaches affecting families and businesses. He explains Aura’s personalized, family-centered approach to digital protection, its focus on streamlined onboarding, and its growth to approximately $340 million in annual recurring revenue.

(01:26:39) - GPT-6 Astra

(01:31:23) - Matt Caldwell, CEO of the Minnesota Timberwolves, discusses how the team is using Jump’s direct-to-consumer ticketing platform to simplify purchases, own fan data, and deepen engagement. He also highlights AI-driven ticket pricing and broader distribution across marketplaces to increase attendance and revenue. Jordy Leiser is the co-founder and CEO of Jump, a sports technology company building an all-in-one platform for teams to manage ticketing, commerce, and the fan experience. He previously co-founded StellaService/Stella Connect, which was acquired by Medallia, and began his career in investment banking at JPMorgan. Jump now works with teams across the NBA, WNBA, MLS, and NWSL.

(01:45:50) - Jeff Thornburg, a space-industry veteran and former SpaceX executive, discusses founding Portal Space Systems to build highly maneuverable spacecraft for defense and civil exploration. He highlights the company’s orbital testing progress, growing team, evolving government-industry partnerships, and the importance of tenacity and calm leadership in solving difficult engineering challenges.

(01:54:15) - Charlie O, head of AI model training, discusses the future of personalized open-source models, continual learning, and Base Labs’ mission to make AI more useful through open research. He argues that task-specific models can outperform general frontier models economically and emphasizes aggregating real-world data, developing open RL environments, and exploring new ways for models to continuously acquire knowledge and values.

(02:08:54) - Sridhar Ramaswamy discusses Snowflake’s strong growth, widespread adoption of its AI products, and strategy for competing in the rapidly evolving enterprise AI market. The Snowflake CEO highlights AI-driven productivity, small-team innovation, efficient token spending, internal communication, customer value, and acquisitions that strengthen the company’s data and AI platform.

(02:22:41) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after.

Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.

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This is our full interview with Jimmy Iovine.
We discuss why he and Dr. Dre started a school at USC, how they built Beats into the world's biggest headphone company, what he learned from Steve Jobs, why software companies struggle to build great hardware, how AI will transform music, what's broken about Spotify and streaming, and more.
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(00:58) - Yapping in Neuralese

(08:50) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

(11:47) - Markiplier Sends GoPro Stock Flying

(19:42) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

(36:13) - Elon Wants to Make Power Turbine Components

(41:29) - Maersk Brings Sails Back

(44:04) - Nikesh Arora, chairman and CEO of Palo Alto Networks, discusses the growing cybersecurity risks posed by increasingly powerful AI models and the need to fight AI-driven attacks with AI-powered defenses. He also explains Palo Alto Networks’ use of small, specialized models, its AI-focused hiring strategy, and its partnership with Console to expand agent-based security and IT operations.

(01:03:14) - Kurt Tenenbaum, a senior managing director at Blue Owl Capital focused on AI compute infrastructure, discusses financing GPUs and other equipment within data centers. He highlights Blue Owl’s IRIN deal, its focus on short-duration financing for non-investment-grade operators, and the capital and regulatory challenges facing AI infrastructure development.

(01:10:10) - Philip Johnston discusses StarCloud’s $250 million funding extension, plans to secure launches and expand manufacturing, and partnerships with Nvidia and Cisco. He also highlights successful GPU-powered satellite tests, government and military applications, upcoming launches, and the importance of diversifying launch providers.

(01:14:51) - Jimmy Iovine is a legendary music executive, producer, and entrepreneur who co-founded Interscope Records and, with Dr. Dre, co-founded Beats Electronics. He began his career engineering and producing for artists including John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, and Stevie Nicks, later building Interscope into one of the most influential labels in music. Apple acquired Beats for $3 billion in 2014, and Iovine and Dr. Dre also co-founded the USC Iovine and Young Academy.

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