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John Coogan & Jordi Hays
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    Cloudflare CEO Predicts AI Agents Will Outnumber Humans 1,000-to-1

    2026-06-10 | 33 mins.
    This is our full conversation with Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince.
    We discuss why AI agents are already generating more web traffic than humans, how the internet must be rebuilt to support billions of autonomous agents, why Cloudflare is betting heavily on young talent in the age of AI, and what the future of inference, infrastructure, and long-running AI agents will look like.

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    Social Network Sequel Trailer, Fable 5 Sparks Safety Debate, SpaceX IPO Watch | Diet TBPN

    2026-06-10 | 33 mins.
    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after.

    Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.

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    The Social Reckoning Reactions, Fable 5 Sparks Safety Debate, 𝕏 Timeline Reactions | Farza Majeed, Trent Simonian, Sridhar Ramaswamy, Matthew Prince, Vinod Khosla, Ranjan Rajagopalan, Markie Wagner, Bret Taylor

    2026-06-10 | 3h 7 mins.
    (00:26) - The Social Reckoning Trailer Reactions

    (15:24) - Fable 5 Sparks Safety Debate

    (30:06) - Farza Majeed discusses his journey from creating an AI tutor for DaVinci Resolve to developing Clicky, an AI assistant that executes user commands on computers. He explains Clicky's functionality, including real-time GPT responses and integration with models like Fable 5 for screen understanding, and addresses the business model, emphasizing cost-effective agentic work and a $20 monthly subscription. Majeed also highlights the importance of balancing his media presence with startup development and expresses his vision for Clicky as a versatile interaction layer across devices.

    (44:52) - Trent Simonian, co-founder of Sidetalk, a New York City-based one-minute street show, discusses the show's origins, emphasizing its commitment to capturing candid, high-energy street interviews without staging. He highlights the importance of creating shareable and engaging content, noting that their approach has led to collaborations with major brands like Nike and the NFL. Simonian also touches on the challenges of monetizing short-form content, explaining that while platforms like TikTok and Instagram haven't provided direct revenue, Sidetalk generates income through branded content and merchandise sales.

    (59:25) - Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO of Snowflake since February 2024, previously led Google's advertising products and co-founded the AI-powered search engine Neeva. He discusses how Snowflake's AI-driven tools, like Snowflake Cowork, have significantly reduced data integration times and enhanced conversational data access, enabling businesses to solve complex problems interactively. Ramaswamy also highlights the company's focus on streamlining migrations from legacy platforms, reducing timelines from years to quarters, and emphasizes the importance of effective go-to-market strategies and partnerships, such as with AWS, to deliver joint solutions to customers.

    (01:16:27) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

    (01:28:50) - Matthew Prince, co-founder and CEO of Cloudflare, discusses the company's recent acquisition of Void Zero, the creators of Vite, a popular developer platform. He highlights the synergy between Vite and Cloudflare's infrastructure, emphasizing the potential to enhance support for internet agents and improve developer experiences. Prince also addresses the challenges developers face with CPU bottlenecks and outlines Cloudflare's strategies to optimize performance and efficiency in the evolving digital landscape.

    (02:04:41) - Vinod Khosla, founder and managing director of Khosla Ventures, discusses the significance of auto formalization in enhancing AI reliability by converting human language into machine-checkable formats, thereby reducing issues like hallucinations. He highlights Pramana's role in this field, particularly in formalizing complex domains such as tax law to ensure precision and compliance. Khosla emphasizes that while large AI labs continue to expand, there remains substantial opportunity for ventures addressing specific challenges through auto formalization.

    (02:15:41) - Ranjan Rajagopalan, founder of Pramaana Labs, discusses the company's mission to enhance AI accuracy in critical fields like tax, legal, healthcare, and governance by focusing on formal verification to prevent catastrophic errors. He explains their approach of converting complex regulations into formal languages, enabling AI systems to provide provably correct answers with mathematical proofs, thereby increasing trust and reliability in AI applications. Rajagopalan also highlights the importance of integrating formal verification with large language models to ensure AI outputs are verifiable and dependable in high-stakes domains.

    (02:28:49) - Markie Wagner is the founder and CEO of Poetic, an AI startup backed by OpenAI, Kleiner Perkins, and Founders Fund, focusing on automating complex business processes with high accuracy. In the conversation, she discusses the challenges of capturing undocumented, intricate rules within large organizations and emphasizes the necessity of AI systems that can learn and execute these processes with near-perfect precision. She also highlights the importance of forward-deployed engineers who not only possess technical expertise but can also drive organizational change to effectively implement AI solutions.

    (02:45:33) - Bret Taylor, an American computer scientist and entrepreneur, co-created Google Maps, served as Facebook's CTO, chaired Twitter's board, and co-CEOed Salesforce before founding Sierra, an AI startup specializing in autonomous customer service agents. Taylor discusses Sierra's recent achievement of FedRAMP High certification, enabling federal agencies to utilize their AI solutions, and emphasizes the potential of AI to enhance government services like Medicare and passport processing by improving efficiency and accessibility. He also highlights the importance of multilingual support and the role of AI in transforming customer service interactions within the public sector.

    (03:02:08) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

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    WWDC Reactions, Claude Fable 5 Debuts, McAfee Eyes ESPN Mega Deal | Diet TBPN

    2026-06-10 | 30 mins.
    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after.

    Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.

    TBPN is made possible by:
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    Cisco - https://www.cisco.com
    Console - https://www.console.com
    CrowdStrike - https://www.crowdstrike.com
    Figma - https://www.figma.com
    MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com
    NYSE - https://www.nyse.com
    Railway - https://railway.com
    Shopify - https://www.shopify.com/

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    Siri AI, Fable 5 Launch, Rivian CEO Joins | RJ Scaringe, Chris Miller, Evan Beard, Nick Fleisher, Chris Matarese, Alex Heath, Rob Schroder Jr.

    2026-06-09 | 2h 49 mins.
    (01:16) - WWDC Day 1

    (31:41) - Claude Fable 5

    (34:02) - Meta Trains Data Center Workers

    (38:27) - RJ Scaringe, born January 19, 1983, is an American engineer and the founder and CEO of Rivian Automotive, an electric vehicle manufacturer. In the conversation, he discusses the launch of the R2 SUV, emphasizing its role in making Rivian's vehicles more accessible and highlighting its advanced features, including a range of up to 345 miles and a 0–60 mph acceleration in as quick as 3.6 seconds. Scaringe also outlines Rivian's strategic focus on scaling production and enhancing autonomous driving capabilities, aiming for Level 4 autonomy by 2028.

    (01:04:32) - Chris Miller, an economic historian and professor at Tufts University, is the author of "Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology," which examines the global competition over semiconductor technology. In the conversation, he discusses the recent surge in semiconductor spending driven by AI advancements, the cautious expansion strategies of manufacturers like TSMC, and the geopolitical implications of China's investments in AI infrastructure.

    (01:29:45) - Evan Beard, CEO and Chief Engineer of Standard Bots, discusses the company's recent $200 million Series C funding at a $1 billion valuation, plans to quadruple manufacturing capacity, and the goal to account for 10% of U.S. industrial robot deployments next year. He highlights the need for domestic production, noting that nearly all U.S. robots are foreign-made, and emphasizes Standard Bots' focus on AI-driven, user-friendly robots that can be trained through demonstration. Beard also addresses the challenges of humanoid robots in industrial settings, suggesting that static or mobile bases with flexible configurations offer better ROI and performance.

    (01:39:41) - Nick Leisure, co-founder and CEO of Sandstone, discusses the company's recent $30 million Series A funding led by Lightspeed and their rapid growth, deploying legal relationship management tools to dozens of Fortune 500 and mid-market companies, achieving a 40x business growth in 150 days. He highlights Sandstone's focus on centralizing intake and knowledge for in-house legal teams, enabling effective AI workflows, and differentiating from traditional contract lifecycle management tools. Leisure also addresses the evolving role of AI in legal services, emphasizing the need for experienced in-house counsel and the increasing importance of technical roles within legal teams.

    (01:52:39) - Chris Matarese, co-founder, President, and CFO of NinjaOne, discusses how NinjaOne addresses the complexity and fragmentation in IT management by unifying various operations into a single, modern, cloud-native platform, enabling organizations to reduce costs and simplify workflows. He highlights that the average NinjaOne customer replaces seven point solutions, thereby eliminating inefficiencies and security risks associated with managing multiple tools. Additionally, Matarese emphasizes the company's adaptability, noting that while NinjaOne aims to provide comprehensive solutions, it also integrates with existing point solutions that customers find valuable, ensuring a seamless and unified IT management experience.

    (02:06:41) - Alex Heath is the Deputy Editor at The Verge, where he covers major technology companies, AI, social media, and the future of consumer tech. He is also the author of Sources, a newsletter focused on the inner workings of Silicon Valley and the biggest stories shaping the tech industry.

    (02:34:20) - Rob Schroder Jr. is the founder and managing partner of Vinyl Equity, a growth investment firm focused on partnering with technology companies and founders. He is known for his long-term approach to investing, working closely with entrepreneurs to help scale businesses while emphasizing sustainable growth and operational excellence.

    TBPN is made possible by:
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    Figma - https://www.figma.com
    MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com
    NYSE - https://www.nyse.com
    Railway - https://railway.com
    Shopify - https://www.shopify.com
    Codex - http://openAI.com/codex

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    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tbpn/id1772360235
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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.
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