Trading Secrets

Bachelor Nation’s Andrew Spencer and Alexe Godin join Jason to break down the money, career pivots, and relationship realities that came after Bachelor in Paradise. Andrew reveals how his income has grown from roughly $75K his first year after the show to $200K the following year—and why 2026 could be another major jump—while Alexe opens up about nearly $100K CAD in student debt, leaving her career as a speech-language pathologist after realizing content could pay roughly 3X more, and using her Paradise winnings to help wipe out debt and invest for retirement.

The couple also gets candid about turning down the money for love on Paradise, why Andrew secretly strategized once a cash prize entered the game, their very different relationships with money, keeping their businesses and finances separate for now, and how their childhoods shaped what financial security and family mean to each of them. Plus, Alexe talks about pursuing acting, Andrew shares how he’s building a brand beyond Bachelor Nation, and they open up about navigating the pressure to get engaged, merge lives, and figure out what comes next.

Host: Jason Tartick
Audio: John Gurney
Video: Marc Colcer
Guests: Andrew Spencer & Alexe Godin
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Jason Tartick and the Curious Canadian are back for another 30 Minute Thursday with a little bit of everything. Jason breaks down the latest Federal Reserve rate hike and what it means for your credit card debt, savings, and investments, while David asks how to put $10,000 to work, whether a high-yield savings account or CD makes sense, and how dollar-cost averaging can help you get invested over time.

The guys also debate whether David should set up an LLC for his hockey consulting side hustle, what business expenses may qualify as deductions, and why keeping receipts and working with a tax professional matters.

Then it’s all pop culture. Jason recaps a whirlwind week in New York City, including the US Open, celebrity events, and his upcoming night with Brad Pitt, while the guys break down the return of Chris Harrison to reality TV, the new show The Vow, and their thoughts on the latest season of Dancing With the Stars.

Plus, a Starbucks rant, the rise of AI and robots, Jason’s week in NYC, and the real reason the Jesse James Decker episode was pulled and replaced with the Val episode.

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Description:With a new season of Dancing With the Stars just around the corner, we’re flashing back and revisiting one of our favorite conversations with DWTS legend Val Chmerkovskiy.

Originally recorded in 2023, Val opens up about his unconventional path from competitive ballroom dancing to becoming one of the biggest names on television, including why he initially resisted joining Dancing With the Stars, what finally changed his mind, and how his career evolved once he made the leap.

Val also gets candid about the business of being a professional dancer, the financial realities of competitive dance, negotiating his value, building multiple streams of income, and why he would sometimes choose equity in a business over getting paid upfront.

Plus, he shares the mindset that helped him navigate difficult seasons, career setbacks and the uncertainty of being dealt a bad hand: “delusional optimism.”

From building Dance With Me Studios to turning his DWTS platform into a larger business ecosystem, this is a conversation about knowing your value, betting on yourself, and turning a passion into a career.
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Jessie James Decker has built a career by refusing to stay in one lane. From country music and reality TV to fashion, fitness, publishing, and entrepreneurship, Jessie has turned her creativity into a growing business empire—and she joins Trading Secrets to break down how she did it.

Jessie opens up about growing up with very little, the childhood experiences that still drive her to prove herself, and the financial mistakes she made early in her career. She shares the money lessons she learned from her husband, Eric Decker, why surrounding yourself with people who are smarter than you can be a game changer, and how her biggest weaknesses have become some of her greatest strengths.

She also gets candid about building Kitnish into a $60 million business, recognizing when she needed to step away from the CEO role, and why giving up operational control was one of the hardest—and smartest—business decisions she made.

Plus, Jessie reveals how she built a fitness community of nearly 40,000 subscribers, why authentic content is outperforming highly produced social media, what she thinks is missing from today's music industry, her experience on Dancing With the Stars, and the money and relationship rules that have helped her and Eric navigate their careers together.

And she leaves us with her ultimate Trading Secret: “It’s never no.”
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Jason Tartick and the Curious Canadian are back for another 30-Minute Thursday covering everything from Jared Freid’s relentless approach to success to Apple’s brand-new $2,000 foldable iPhone.

The guys break down the biggest business takeaways from Jared’s return to Trading Secrets, including why asking for what you want, being scrappy, and putting yourself out there can create opportunities. They also debate whether the new iPhone is actually worth the price, talk podcast negotiations, the rise of athletes in pop culture, the US Open, football season, and the latest sports headlines.

Then, for the first time ever, a Trading Secrets listener joins the show. Taylor Fraser shares her journey from accounting to teaching, how she turned her side hustles into a growing business, and how she and her husband launched Bluegrass Flow, a cold-pressed juice company now sold in 60+ retail locations.

Taylor also opens up about teacher compensation, retirement, AI in education, entrepreneurship, using grants to fund a growing business, and the importance of building a career around something you genuinely love.
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