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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

Harry Stebbings
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
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  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Leading Anthropic's First Ever Round | Will Open Source Threaten Anthropic's Business | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | Why Triple, Triple, Double, Double is Not Good Enough Today | Why Series A is Hard Today with Matt Murphy @ Menlo

    2026-07-27 | 1h 2 mins.
    Matt Murphy is a Partner at Menlo Ventures, who just raised $3 billion in fresh capital, its largest pool ever. Matt's portfolio includes Anthropic, Lovable, Legora, OpenRouter, Chai Discovery, Axiom, OpenEvidence and more.
    AGENDA: 
    00:00 Why Menlo Broke All Its Investing Rules to Back Anthropic 09:00 Why Ownership Matters Less in an Outlier-Driven Venture Market 13:00 Do We Have an SPV Problem in Venture Today? 20:00 Do Margins Still Matter in AI? 23:00 Why Open Source Won't Derail Anthropic's Growth 26:00 Does Every Model Provider Need to Build Its Own Chips? 29:00 Why Anthropic Is Not a Threat to Legora 32:00 Why Series A Is the Hardest Place to Invest Today 36:00 Why Signalling Is B.S. and Every Fund Is Going Full Stack 42:00 Why Building a Company in Europe Is Hard Mode 47:00 Why Triple-Triple-Double-Double Is No Longer Venture-Scale Growth
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Mercor CPO on Revenue Concentration from Frontier Labs | Why Large Enterprise is Scared to Partner with Frontier Labs | Why Small Specialised Models is the Future with Osvald Nitski

    2026-07-25 | 1h
    Osvald Nitski is the Chief Product Officer at Mercor, the AI-training and expert-data marketplace powering frontier-model development. Mercor last raised a $350 million Series C at a $10 billion valuation, and is reportedly in discussions for a new round at a $20 billion valuation. Mercor crossed $2BN in ARR in June; doubling from $1 billion in only four months.
    AGENDA: 
    00:04:00 Will open-source models kill the data-provider business?
    00:07:00 Are enterprises still terrified of working with frontier model companies?
    00:09:00 Does every company end up with its own specialised AI model?
    00:10:00 Do enterprises actually have an AI ROI problem?
    00:11:00 How should founders balance AI performance against exploding token bills?
    00:14:00 Does AI mean product teams build 10x more—or ruthlessly simplify?
    00:15:00 What does it now take to be a great product manager in an AI-native world?
    00:20:00 Is the boom in AI services and forward-deployed engineers here to stay?
    00:37:00 Can Mercor escape its dependence on a handful of frontier-model customers?
    00:47:00 Are AI-generated code and agents creating a cybersecurity arms race?
    00:56:00 When will robotics have its real "ChatGPT moment"?
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: OpenAI and Anthropic Threatened by Kimi? | Should the US Ban Chinese Open-Source Models | Should Openrouter Sell & Value in the Routing Layer? | Stripe Buying Paypal: What You Need to Know

    2026-07-23 | 1h 23 mins.
    AGENDA:
    00:04 China's Kimi and Qwen Put Frontier AI on Notice00:08 Washington Debates Whether Chinese AI Models Should Be Banned 00:17 Can America Build a Profitable Open-Weight AI Champion? 00:21 OpenRouter's Moment: Is This the Perfect Time to Sell? 00:31 Fireworks' $1.5B Raise Signals the Real AI Money Is in Infrastructure 00:39 Why Every Great AI App May Need to Build Its Own Model 00:50 Stripe's Bold Play to Buy PayPal 01:01 The AI Funding Frenzy: Why Late-Stage Venture Is Winning 01:12 Nuclear Startups Go Wild While Databricks and Stripe Stay Private 01:15 The AI Supply Chain War: TSMC, ASML, DRAM—and Nvidia's Next Move
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Are OpenAI and Anthropic Overvalued? The Open-Source AI Reality | How Token Costs Will Fall 10x And Usage Will Explode 100x | The Future Is Not One AGI; It's Millions of Specialised Models with Lin Qiao, Founder and CEO @ Fireworks

    2026-07-20 | 1h 17 mins.
    Lin Qiao is the Co-Founder and CEO of Fireworks AI, the leading specialized intelligence and AI inference platform that last week raised $1.5BN at a whopping $17BN valuation. With just 200 people, the company has hit $1BN in ARR and expects to hit $2BN before the end of the year. Prior to Fireworks, Lin spent several years at Meta including on the founding team of PyTorch. 
    AGENDA:
    00:07 — Why Did Fireworks Bet on Inference When Everyone Else Was Chasing Training?
    00:13 — Can Open-Source Models Turn AI Infrastructure into a Commodity?
    00:19 — Should Enterprises Trust Chinese Open Models With Their Most Sensitive Data?
    00:25 — Will Model Progress Keep Moving This Fast—or Are We Nearing a Plateau?
    00:28 — Will the Multi-Model World Create a $100BN Routing Layer?
    00:37 — How Much Will AI Token Usage Explode Over the Next Two Years?
    00:43 — Will Token Costs Fall 10x—and Unleash 100x More Demand?
    00:49 — Does Fireworks Eventually Have to Build Its Own Data Centres?
    01:02 — What Is the Real Bottleneck Holding Back the AI Economy?
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: $5BN in Revenue, 7 to 7,000 Employees in 9 Months, 206,000 Tests in a Single Day: The Craziest Story in Startups: Curative with Fred Turner

    2026-07-18 | 1h 27 mins.
    Fred Turner is the Founder and CEO @ Curative, one of the wildest stories in tech. Fred scaled a COVID testing business from $0 to $5BN in revenue and took the team from 7 to 7,000 employees in just 9 months. They did over 206,000 COVID tests in a single day and signed contracts in the 100s of $Ms with several of the largest states. Today, Curative is a unicorn health insurance business taking on the incumbents for one of the largest markets in healthcare. 
    AGENDA:
    00:00 How Did a Spare-Time COVID Test Become a $5BN Business?
    07:00 How Do You Go From Testing Cows to STDs, Sepsis and COVID?
    21:00 When Did Fred Realise COVID Was Massive—and How Did Curative Scale to $5BN?
    36:00 Why Pivot Into Health Insurance—and What Is Broken About US Healthcare?
    40:00 How Is AI Rebuilding Curative—and Which Departments Go to Zero?
    45:00 Is SaaS Dead? Why Is Curative Cutting 80% of Its Software Spend?
    48:00 Are Legacy Insurers Screwed? What Will Anthropic Be Worth in Three Years?
    59:00 Will AI Make Companies Smaller? Which Jobs Will Survive?
    1:10:00 Why Nuclear—and Could Subcritical Become Bigger Than Curative?
    1:17:00 What Have Marriage and Fatherhood Taught Fred? What Has He Changed His Mind On?
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About The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman. If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.
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