The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

170 episodes

166: The Weight of a Reasonable Person: The Karmelo Anthony Case
2026-06-11 | 13 mins.
On April 2, 2025, a sudden rainstorm at a Frisco, Texas track meet forced athletes to scramble for shelter. Two minutes later, 17-year-old Austin Metcalf was fatally stabbed, and 17-year-old Karmelo Anthony was in police custody claiming self-defense.
In this episode, of The In Between Podcast, Mel Barrett unpacks the explosive Collin County trial that culminated in Karmelo’s 35-year murder conviction. Mel examines the rigid boundaries of Texas's "Stand Your Ground" laws, the controversial "Batson challenge" that resulted in an all-White jury, and the prosecution’s successful framing of Karmelo's fear as a calculated "sneak attack."
But the law doesn't exist in a vacuum. Using historical context and startling justifiable homicide data from the Urban Institute, Mel asks the uncomfortable question at the center of this tragedy: What happens to the justice system when you completely invert the racial dynamic? We explore how prosecutorial language, jury empathy, and the legal definition of a "reasonable person" shift fundamentally depending on the color of the defendant's skin.
Listen to explore who gets the benefit of the doubt, and who is legally allowed to be afraid in America.
165: Pandora's Box: CPCS sends letter to MSP Amended defamation complaint + Colin’s name comes up...again
2026-06-11 | 1h 55 mins.
164: CROSS ROAST Who will it be: Jen McCabe, Katie McGloughlin, or Michael Proctor?
2026-06-09 | 2h 4 mins.
In this unhinged and public episode, Mel and a delightfully tipsy Rebecca break down the absolute circus of Michael Proctor’s 5-minute Zoom hearing—complete with rogue F-bombs, hot mic disasters, and peak boomer tech fails.
Then, it's time for the "Cross Roast," where Mel forces Rebecca to watch Proctor get absolutely skewered on the stand by Alan Jackson. Come for the ruthless takedown of terrible police work and bad nicknames, but stay for the chaotic tangents about perfectly cubed pickles on Italian grinders, 90s lesbian awakenings, and the existential dread of trying to find an emergency vet for a puking chinchilla. Grab a frozé and enjoy the ride!
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163: Will Proctor get to skip his deposition? PLUS @EmilySeee with Adam Deitch
2026-06-08 | 2h 11 mins.
162: Canton Bigots: Michael Proctor and Sean Goode EXPOSED
2026-06-07 | 2h 58 mins.
Mel and Rebecca sit down to unpack the absolute bombshell of a civil lawsuit recently filed by Karen Read against the Massachusetts State Police and the Town of Canton/CPD.
We’re digging deep into the highly offensive text messages and audio memos exchanged between lead investigator Michael Proctor and Canton Police Sergeant Sean Good.
A quick but important heads-up (Trigger Warning): We will be reading directly from the newly released court filings. The language used by these officers is deeply bigoted, misogynistic, and racist, and we are reacting to it in real-time. Please take care of yourself while listening, and feel free to step away if you need to.
Together, we’ll talk through how this entrenched, toxic culture of bias allegedly paved the way for framing Karen Read. We also break down the public fallout—including our honest thoughts on the reaction to Karen's recent Today Show interview—and discuss why we so desperately need real, lasting accountability within our law enforcement system.
Grab a coffee, settle in, and let's get into it.

About The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc Web: inbetweenpod.com

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