The Russell Moore Show

What would it look like if Christians were known less for winning political battles and more for being good neighbors?

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And now for something a little different! On the occasion of Lee C. Camp’s paperback release of his book Scandalous Witness, he invited Russell to interview him for his own podcast, No Small Endeavor.  Since the conversation included topics like Christian nationalism, how Christians have been neighbors both good AND bad, and how Christian witness can actually recover some humility, it felt appropriate to share the episode here too.

This conversation explores what it would mean if, in this divided and exhausted era, Christians (and others) stopped despairing and allowing themselves to be held captive to tribes and ideologies, and instead, actually did the patient work of loving God and neighbor.

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From the Moore to the Point newsletter: the spiritual reason our elderly leaders refuse to give up power.

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What keeps a marriage standing after decades of walking through the ordinary and unimaginable?Steven Curtis Chapman and Mary Beth Chapman have spent more than 40 years together, raising a family while navigating a life in the public eye. Their new book, Still Here, is the story of this life–one shared by two imperfect people learning over and over again what it means to bear with one another in love.

The Chapmans join Russell from Steven’s home studio to reflect on marrying young, surviving seasons of insecurity, balancing family with a demanding career, and why the real work of marriage lies in showing up again, day after day. They also speak candidly about the tragic loss of their daughter Maria, and the deliberate decision they made to fight the enemy rather than one another.

This conversation is an honest reminder that faithfulness isn't the absence of hardship, rather, it’s trusting Christ together on the long road home.Resources mentioned in the episode:

Still Here: Life Together on the Long Way Home — Steven Curtis Chapman & Mary Beth Chapman

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From the Moore to the Point newsletter: the Graham Platner scandal shows us about how a good comeback story can be dangerous.

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Beth Moore returns as Russell's co-host for a conversation with acclaimed novelist Daniel Nayeri.

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It was Beth who first insisted Russell read Daniel's award-winning novel, Everything Sad Is Untrue. After dragging his feet to pick it up, Russell only had one regret: waiting so long.

Together, the three talk about Nayeri’s novels, including Everything Sad Is Untrue and his newest hit, The Teacher of Nomad Land. Daniel reflects on fleeing Iran as a child refugee, Beth shares why these books affected her so deeply, and all three consider the Christian hope (and Tolkien reference!) that gives Everything Sad Is Untrue its unforgettable title.

If you've ever wondered whether stories can make us more truthful—or whether every sad thing really will one day become untrue—you'll find this conversation both beautiful and deeply hopeful.

Resources mentioned in the episode:


Everything Sad Is Untrue (A True Story) — Daniel Nayeri


The Teacher of Nomad Land — Daniel Nayeri

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