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Atheist Knows How God Would Act If He Did Exist – Ep.351 – The Great Debate – Stein’s 2nd Opening – Part 2
Atheist Knows How God Would Act If He Did Exist Throughout this second part of Stein’s opening, he shows himself to be an atheist who doesn’t believe in God but definitively knows how that god would act if he did exist. Stein attempts to conflate logical contradiction with a psychological ickiness he perceives in the argument for God. Suffering, evil, justice, and how to act are things Stein knows how his made up god would act – a weird thing for someone who claims that he just lacks a belief. TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 02:10 – All God Has To Do Is Appear To A Group Of People For Stein To Believe 06:14 – Stein Is Just Using His Unargued Presuppositions 10:00 – Stein Thinks He His god Wouldn’t Allow Suffering 12:48 – Stein Doesn’t Provide His Basis For Evil Or Good Or Logic 17:04 – Stein Doesn’t Think Sin Or Justice Is Fair 20:55 – Stein Doesn’t Believe In God Because Of Religious Pluralism 21:44 – Stein Sees Christianity As A Failure Because Christians Can Be Bad 24:06 – Stein Should Ask These Questions To A Christian 27:52 – What Does Stein Think He’s Left With? 29:33 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
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Where Can One Stand To Call Out Evil? – Ep.350 – The Great Debate – Stein’s 2nd Opening
Where Can One Stand To Call Out Evil? For the second opening to The Great Debate, Dr. Stein wants to call out Christians for not having any good proofs and also having a system that allows evil to be present in a world created by God. However, one must ask, where can one stand to call out evil? Or even good for that matter. TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 02:34 – Two Main Cases For Why God’s Existence Hasn’t Been Proven 03:34 – Long Period Of Time With Failure Of Main Arguments For God’s Existence 06:37 – The Problem Of Evil Is An Issue For Theists 08:02 – God Definitely Doesn’t Exist But If He Did Exist He Wouldn’t Allow Evil 09:23 – Atheists Fail To Establish An Evil Standard Exists For Them To Use The Problem Of Evil 12:57 – Stein Not Convinced Of Next Life Justice Takes Care Of Evil 16:15 – Stein Allows For God Not To Be All Powerful – Uses Specific Christian Attack 17:22 – Stein Does Not Buy The Free Will Defense – One That Bahnsen Didn’t Make 18:04 – The Atheist Putting Onto The Christian Elements Of Their Worldview 22:48 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
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Stein’s Assessment So Far – Ep.349 – The Great Debate – Stein’s Rebuttal
Stein’s Assessment So Far Now it’s Gordon Stein’s turn to assess the debate so far. With Stein’s assessment he believes that Bahnsen hasn’t offered anything other than feelings based arguments and non sequiturs. He doesn’t feel the need to offer an explanation for why the universe exists and he sees laws of science, logic, and math only as agreed upon by consensus items. Why? What’s wrong with that? TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 02:34 – Does The Universe Require A Cause? 03:56 – Looking For How God Created 05:43 – God Is Very Knowable 08:04 – Scientific & Logic Laws Are Just Consensus According To Atheist 11:25 – Philosophical Death Is The Result 12:33 – Math Is Also Consensus 15:27 – An Atheist Universe Has Regularity Because Of Internal Properties 16:56 – The Cause Of The Universe Must Be A Part Of It Says Atheist 20:56 – Do Atheists Destroy All History Or Are Christians Only Feelings-Based? 25:35 – Stein Finally Deals With The Transcendental Argument 31:04 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
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Bahnsen’s Assessment So Far – Ep.348 – The Great Debate – Bahnsen’s Rebuttal
Bahnsen’s Assessment So Far Essentially round one is over and both debaters are going to give their take of the Great Debate. In Bahnsen’s assessment so far, he finds that Stein has not addressed his main argument for God and has also given up the debate with the idea that the laws of logic are just social conventions agreed upon by people. But – is that how people view logic and operate in their daily lives? TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 01:25 – The Atheist Isn’t Debating The Christian Yet 05:45 – Stein Hasn’t Dealt With Bahnsen’s Argument At All 07:13 – Stein’s Problematic Atheist Idea Of The Laws Of Logic 18:38 – The Atheist Unknowingly Gives The Win To The Christian By Convention 21:11 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
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The First Sparring Of The Great Debate – Ep.347 – The Great Debate – The 1st Rebuttal
The First Sparring Of The Great Debate The first sparring of The Great Debate takes place here with the Christian & atheist getting five questions to ask for the other to answer. While we aren’t used to this format, this really lays out the needed back and forth interaction that a lot of debates lack within a formal structure. It’s not the blood-sport debates we’re used to on YouTube but it helps with each side making sure the other is interacting with their points the best. TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 03:22 – Q1 – Source For Atheism Definition 04:03 – A1 – Source Cited 05:15 – Q2 – Cite The Argument Used By Bahnsen 05:36 – A2 – No But You Believe It 06:49 – Q3 – Where’s The Transcendental Argument 07:50 – A3 – No Because It’s Not A Proof 08:12 – Commentary – Stein Was Helpful For Presuppositionalists 10:49 – Q4 – All Questions Answered The Same Way 11:08 – A4 – No They Are Not 11:34 – Q5 & A5 – What Does An Atheist Believe Laws Of Logic Are 14:21 – Atheist 14:41 – Q1 & Q2 – The Nature Of God 17:04 – Q2 & A2 – Is Your God All The Omnis 17:33 – Q3 & Q3 – If Argument Is Wrong Will God Not Exist 17:56 – Commentary – A Clarifying Comment On A “Problematic” Bahnsen 20:25 – Q4 & A4 – Is God Good 24:43 – Q5 & A5 – Can You Prove The Soul 26:38 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
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