Stephan Livera Podcast

• Bitcoiners, Walk the Walk With Payments! with Rockstar and Di | SLP657

  Stephan discusses the significance of Bitcoin as money and the concept of monetary maximalism with guests Rockstar Dev and Di from BTC Inc. They explore the current state of Bitcoin as a medium of exchange, the challenges of adoption, and the innovations being introduced, such as the Bolt Card, to facilitate Bitcoin payments. The conversation emphasizes the importance of leading by example in the Bitcoin community and the need for better technology to enhance user experience and drive adoption.Takeaways🔸Bitcoin is seen as a store of value, but the goal is to use it as a medium of exchange.🔸BTC Inc. aims to be a Bitcoin adoption company, integrating Bitcoin into their operations.🔸The Bolt Card is an innovation to simplify Bitcoin payments at events.🔸Merchants play a crucial role in Bitcoin adoption by offering it as a payment option.🔸Convenience is a significant factor in whether people choose to use Bitcoin or fiat.🔸The upcoming Bitcoin conference aims to set a world record for Bitcoin transactions in a single day.🔸Education is essential for new Bitcoin users to understand the importance of self-custody.🔸The Bitcoin community must actively showcase its use in real-world transactions.🔸Technological improvements are necessary for Bitcoin to compete with traditional payment methods.🔸The future of Bitcoin as a medium of exchange depends on both customer demand and merchant willingness.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:10) - Bitcoin as money and the idea of monetary maximalism(12:43) - Sponsors(15:07) - How will the Bolt card help fuel Bitcoin adoption through payments?(18:52) - How can one use a Bolt card?; The role of Bitcoin as Medium of Exchange(21:57) - Will vendors in Vegas accept Bitcoin?(33:19) - Sponsors(27:55) - A new world record for Bitcoin-only payments in the making?(34:21) - “Friends don’t let friends use inferior money”(39:29) - Key details and closing thoughts  Links: https://x.com/r0ckstardev https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/snore-of-value-bitcoins-sleepwalk-towards-stasis https://x.com/thebtcmag https://x.com/TheBitcoinConf Sponsors:Bold BitcoinCoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Lana by GaloyStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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• Superior Store of Value: Bitcoin vs Real Estate with Leon Wankum | SLP656

  Leon Wankum shares his journey from studying philosophy to becoming a property expert and Bitcoin enthusiast. He discusses the intersection of real estate and Bitcoin, emphasizing the monetary premium in real estate, the impact of the fiat system on property prices, and the social consequences of property investment. Leon differentiates between property speculation and development, highlighting the business aspects of real estate. He also compares investment yields in real estate versus Bitcoin, arguing that Bitcoin offers superior returns and flexibility as a store of value. In this conversation, Stephan and Leon discuss the evolving landscape of investment strategies, particularly the integration of Bitcoin into real estate investments. They explore the barriers that traditional property investors face when considering Bitcoin, the potential benefits of incorporating Bitcoin into investment portfolios, and the future implications for real estate if Bitcoin is not adopted. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding Bitcoin as a superior monetary technology and its role in counterbalancing inflation and enhancing financial strategies.Takeaways🔸Leon Wankum transitioned from philosophy to real estate and Bitcoin.🔸Bitcoin is seen as a digital store of value competing with real estate.🔸The monetary premium in real estate is influenced by the fiat system.🔸Real estate is often used as a hedge against inflation.🔸Younger generations face challenges entering the property market.🔸Speculation in real estate is driven by low interest rates.🔸Real estate development is a business, not just speculation.🔸Bitcoin offers more freedom and flexibility than real estate.🔸Investment yields in Bitcoin outperform those in real estate.🔸The future of real estate may shift towards Bitcoin as a primary asset.  Bitcoin is increasingly seen as a better store of value than real estate.🔸Many real estate investors are hesitant to adopt Bitcoin due to familiarity with traditional investments.🔸The COVID-19 pandemic shifted perceptions about real estate and Bitcoin.🔸Investors are beginning to recognize Bitcoin's potential as a monetary technology.🔸Real estate is often viewed as a financial asset rather than a design object.🔸Incorporating Bitcoin into investment strategies can provide a competitive edge.🔸Using Bitcoin as a treasury asset can enhance cash flow management.🔸Refinancing properties to invest in Bitcoin is a viable strategy for some investors.🔸The future of real estate may involve a significant shift towards digital assets like Bitcoin.🔸Understanding Bitcoin's role in the economy is crucial for future investment success.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:56) - Who is Leon Wankum?; Bitcoin & real estate journey(04:35) - Why is monetary premium baked into real estate prices around the world?(10:53) - What are the social consequences of property investment? (14:55) - Is the value of real estate driven by debasement of local currency?(17:07) - Sponsors(20:44) - Leveraged speculator vs Property developer(29:38) - Overview of Rental yield in Germany & US; The boon of Bitcoin(35:09) - What is the common pushback from real estate investors against Bitcoin?(40:54) - Convergence between Real estate & Bitcoin investors (42:37) - Are people considering leveraging property to buy Bitcoin?(44:20) - Sponsors(50:10) - How can real estate investors incorporate Bitcoin into their investments? (58:47) - What will be the future of real estate businesses without Bitcoin?(1:04:20) - Closing thoughts Links: https://x.com/leonwankum https://www.digitalrealestate.org/ https://leonwankum.substack.com/p/from-real-estate-to-bitcoin-redefining-how-humanity-saves-and-lives Sponsors:Bold BitcoinCoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Lana by GaloyStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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• Bitcoin Self-Custody in 2025 with NVK | SLP655

  Stephan & NVK discuss the current state of self-custody in Bitcoin, highlighting the advancements in hardware wallets like Coldcard and the importance of understanding trade-offs in wallet solutions. Coldcard introduces new features such as co-signing and key teleport, which enhance security and usability. The conversation also touches on the future of wallet software, including the promising Cove Wallet and the potential of Miniscript in Bitcoin transactions. NVK also highlights the significance of seed phrases in Bitcoin custody, critiques the current OP_Return dynamics and GitHub moderation, and reflects on the implications of BitVM and Layer 2 solutions. Takeaways🔸Self-custody is becoming more accessible and user-friendly.🔸The importance of understanding trade-offs in wallet solutions is crucial.🔸Coldcard's new features enhance security and usability.🔸Key teleport allows secure sharing of private keys remotely.🔸Cove Wallet is a promising new tool for onboarding users.🔸Miniscript is still in early development but shows potential.🔸Collaborative multi-sig setups can improve security for users.🔸Education on self-custody is essential for new Bitcoiners.🔸The sovereign aspect of Bitcoin is a significant advantage.🔸Continuous innovation in wallet technology is necessary for the future. Sparrow is a robust wallet with advanced features.🔸Self-custody is crucial for Bitcoin users.🔸Seed phrases provide a powerful recovery method.🔸The OP_Return debate highlights governance challenges.🔸BitVM introduces new dynamics for Layer 2 solutions.🔸Competition among Bitcoin implementations is healthy.🔸Moderation on GitHub needs improvement.🔸Community engagement is essential for Bitcoin's future.🔸The UTXO set's pollution is a complex issue.🔸OpenSAT aims to fund valuable Bitcoin projects.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:01) - Where are we with Bitcoin self-custody as of today? (04:52) - What are the tradeoffs to consider while choosing a Bitcoin wallet? (07:53) - Inheritance planning in Bitcoin with miniscript(11:50) - The impetus to self-custodying Bitcoin(14:23) - What is co-signing in @coldcardwallet?(17:46) - Who is the co-signing feature for? (23:00) - What is Key Teleport? How does it work? (28:51) - Does Coldcard support Miniscript?(33:50) - What is @covewallet?; Bitcoin wallet projects(40:38) - The importance of seed phrases(44:40) - NVK’s thoughts on the OP_Return controversy(57:03) - The impact of BitVM & Layer 2 Solutions(1:00:39) - Various implementations of Bitcoin softwareLinks: https://x.com/nvk https://x.com/covewallet Sponsors:Bold BitcoinCoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Lana by GaloyStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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• Bitcoin vs Gold: The Future of Monetary Assets with Vijay Boyapati | SLP654

  Stephan & Vijay discuss the current state of Bitcoin, its market cycle, and its comparison with gold. They explore the implications of geopolitical factors on gold and Bitcoin, the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, and the evolving liquidity channels in the market. The discussion also touches on speculation in Bitcoin and how it contributes to its growth, while emphasizing the importance of understanding the underlying economic theories. They also explore the evolving landscape of Bitcoin, the implications of MNAV (Market Net Asset Value) in the context of Bitcoin companies, and the transformative potential of AI on the economy. AI could lead to hyperabundance, affecting various sectors and potentially changing the role of money. The conversation also touches on the risks posed by quantum computing to Bitcoin's security and the need for proactive measures in the Bitcoin community.Takeaways🔸We're still early in this cycle.🔸Understanding causality in economics is crucial.🔸Bitcoin is decorrelating from the stock market and coupling with gold.🔸Gold is part of a larger macroeconomic story.🔸Bitcoin is better than gold in many aspects.🔸Liquidity channels to Bitcoin are larger than ever before.🔸Speculation around Bitcoin can be beneficial for its growth.🔸Degenerate gambling in Bitcoin can enhance its liquidity.🔸The FOMO moment for Bitcoin could lead to significant price increases.🔸We're currently in the third inning of the Bitcoin bull market. Bitcoin is evolving as a monetary asset.🔸MNAV dynamics will fluctuate with market cycles.🔸AI could revolutionize productivity and economic structures.🔸Hyperabundance may lead to deflationary pressures.🔸Debt may become less of an issue in an AI-driven economy.🔸AI's impact on knowledge work will be profound.🔸The future of work will involve significant job displacement.🔸Quantum computing poses a real threat to Bitcoin's security.🔸Individuals may soon replicate corporate Bitcoin strategies.🔸The rapid advancement of AI is reshaping various industries.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(01:44) - Where are we currently in the Bitcoin cycle? (06:47) - Bitcoin’s correlation with Gold(09:52) - The breaking down of Bretton Woods system(12:35) - Will Gold outperform the debasement of the dollar?; The Bitcoin story(16:27) - Sponsors (18:57) - Will Bitcoin drain capital out of other assets?(24:53) - The rise of Bitcoin ETFs & Treasury Companies(34:33) - Are Bitcoin Treasury companies the new levered bitcoin play?(39:56) - The significance of mNAV in Leveraged Bitcoin Equities (49:39) - How will the rise of AI impact society? (59:27) - Sponsors(1:01:15) - AI rewriting the future socio-economic structures; Will Bitcoin be the currency of AI?(1:14:01) - Quantum Computing & Bitcoin's future risksLinks: https://x.com/real_vijay Sponsors:Bold BitcoinCoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Lana by GaloyStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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• Bitcoin Oasis 2025 | SLP653

  At Bitcoin Oasis 2025, we discussed Bitcoin tools & innovation, bitcoin cycles, financialization of bitcoin, adoption in the MENA region and India’s first bitcoin treasury company.Timestamps:(00:00) - Intro(00:57) - Preston Pysh(12:47) - Sponsors(15:03) - Sooly Kobayashi(21:49) - Max Hillebrand(28:46) - Sponsors(29:43) - Siddarth Bharwani(40:07) - Lara EggimanLinks: https://bitcoin-oasis.com/ https://x.com/BTCArabiaLtd https://x.com/PrestonPyshhttps://primal.net/sooly  https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqst0mtgkp3du662ztj3l4fgts0purksu5fgek5n4vgmg9gt2hkn9lqv6g2cl https://x.com/sidbharwani https://x.com/SwissAlice1 Sponsors:Bold BitcoinCoinKite.com (code LIVERA)Lana by GaloyStephan Livera links:Follow me on X: @stephanliveraSubscribe to the podcastSubscribe to Substack

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