The Chuck ToddCast

Dr. Annie Andrews, a pediatrician and Democratic candidate challenging Lindsey Graham for U.S. Senate in South Carolina, joins the Chuck ToddCast to discuss why healthcare providers must lead the fight for reform in an era of collapsing trust in federal institutions. Andrews explains that pediatricians should be at the forefront because Medicaid—the largest insurer of children—has been gutted, and doctors are now disputing dangerous government vaccine policies from an administration where medical information can no longer be trusted. She argues the healthcare system is fundamentally broken, rewarding providers for delivering more treatment rather than better outcomes while facing what she describes as a coordinated attack on healthcare. As a physician countering "Dr. Internet" disinformation, Andrews discusses running as a Democrat despite the challenges, emphasizing that Democrats have a severe geographic disconnect with rural voters, particularly rural Black voters in South Carolina for whom nothing has improved.
Andrews takes direct aim at Lindsey Graham, calling him a follower rather than a leader who simply follows Trump and supports unconstitutional actions while thinking he's politically invulnerable. She expresses disappointment that Nikki Haley and Nancy Mace couldn't stand up to Trump, noting both have "devolved in recent years." Drawing inspiration from the Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock blueprint for Democrats in the South, Andrews insists that if Democrats win the midterms they must be bold, hold Trump accountable, and not take impeachment off the table. Reflecting on her pandemic experience—a period she believes Americans still don't understand—Andrews criticizes D.C. politicians for being disconnected from the real world and argues that on issues like AI regulation, profits cannot be prioritized over common sense safety solutions.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Dr. Annie Andrews joins the Chuck ToddCast
01:15 When did you first want to enter politics?
03:30 Did you learn about the healthcare business in med school?
06:00 Pediatricians should be leading the way on healthcare reform
06:45 Medicaid is largest insurer of children & has been gutted
07:30 Pediatricians dispute government vaccine policy for kids
09:00 We can’t trust medical info from the federal government
10:00 Has any RFK proclamation or policy actually made sense?
11:15 How do you deal with “Dr. Internet”?
12:15 Doctors need an online presence to counter disinformation
14:00 Why is it more profitable to run a non-profit over for-profit hospital?
14:45 Healthcare system is rewarded for proving more treatment, not better
16:15 We’re seeing a coordinated attack on our healthcare system
17:00 Jaime Harrison’s campaign in SC was a disaster
18:15 Easiest way to run in the south is to erase the D by your name
19:00 Many challenges to running as an independent
20:30 Democrats have a geographic disconnect with rural voters
21:30 Nothing has gotten better for rural black voters in SC
23:30 The pandemic was a huge reason for Harrison’s bad loss
24:15 How do you win over a voter that supported Trump?
25:15 Lindsey Graham is supporting unconstitutional actions
26:00 Graham isn’t a leader, he’s a follower & he follows Trump
27:00 Disappointing Nikki Haley couldn’t stand up to Trump more
29:00 South Carolinians says they want outsiders, then vote for insiders
29:45 Graham thinks he’s politically invulnerable
31:00 People will have their lives negatively impacted by GOP policy
32:15 What do you make of Nancy Mace’s political saliency?
33:15 Nancy Mace has devolved in recent years
34:30 Thoughts on Chuck Schumer as Dem leader in senate?
35:45 Jon Ossoff & Raphael Warnock provide blueprint for Dems in south
37:30 Trump & the administration must be held accountable
38:45 Dems must be bold in their agenda if they win the midterms
39:30 Impeachment shouldn’t be off the table
41:30 Can you be both a fighter and a uniter as a candidate?
42:45 Too many D.C. politicians are disconnected from the real world
44:00 How should congress regulate AI?
45:45 Profits can’t be the priority over common sense safety solutions
46:45 Best TV doctor show that gets it right? E.R. & The Pitt
48:00 Americans don’t understand what hospitals were like during Covid
49:00 What’s your campaigning rhythm as a candidate?
50:15 Clemson or South Carolina?
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It feels like Groundhog Day in Washington, but with far higher stakes: Chuck Todd unpacks how the constant churn of déjà vu political scandals has morphed from quirky repetition into full-blown national exhaustion. This episode dives into a rapidly growing blue-wave electorate colliding with what may be the most consequential corruption story of our time—allegations that Trump-era public policy was effectively put up for sale. From a $500 million UAE investment in a Trump-linked company to the approval of advanced AI chip sales, lucrative pardons, and billions in defense contracts tied to the Trump family orbit, Chuck argues this isn’t a one-off scandal but a systemic pattern that dwarfs Watergate. As Congress looks away and enforcement agencies stay silent, the question becomes existential: when foreign money shapes national security decisions, is American policy still being made for the country—or for the first family?
Dr. Annie Andrews, a pediatrician and Democratic candidate challenging Lindsey Graham for U.S. Senate in South Carolina, joins the Chuck ToddCast to discuss why healthcare providers must lead the fight for reform in an era of collapsing trust in federal institutions. Andrews explains that pediatricians should be at the forefront because Medicaid—the largest insurer of children—has been gutted, and doctors are now disputing dangerous government vaccine policies from an administration where medical information can no longer be trusted. She argues the healthcare system is fundamentally broken, rewarding providers for delivering more treatment rather than better outcomes while facing what she describes as a coordinated attack on healthcare. As a physician countering "Dr. Internet" disinformation, Andrews discusses running as a Democrat despite the challenges, emphasizing that Democrats have a severe geographic disconnect with rural voters, particularly rural Black voters in South Carolina for whom nothing has improved.
Andrews takes direct aim at Lindsey Graham, calling him a follower rather than a leader who simply follows Trump and supports unconstitutional actions while thinking he's politically invulnerable. She expresses disappointment that Nikki Haley and Nancy Mace couldn't stand up to Trump, noting both have "devolved in recent years." Drawing inspiration from the Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock blueprint for Democrats in the South, Andrews insists that if Democrats win the midterms they must be bold, hold Trump accountable, and not take impeachment off the table. Reflecting on her pandemic experience—a period she believes Americans still don't understand—Andrews criticizes D.C. politicians for being disconnected from the real world and argues that on issues like AI regulation, profits cannot be prioritized over common sense safety solutions.
Finally, Chuck hops into the ToddCast Time Machine to revisit the meeting at Yalta following World War 2 and why the “spheres of influence” world order prioritizes short-term stability over long-term legitimacy. He also answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction
01:00 It feels like “Groundhog Day” in Washington D.C.
03:00 Movie changed meaning from a quirky holiday to exhaustion
04:15 Political headlines just keep repeating themselves
05:00 Huge “blue wave” is building in the electorate
06:30 Trump bribery scandal should be seismic, likely gets ignored again
07:45 At what point does a policy decision become a product for sale?
09:00 Wall Street Journal stories are legally airtight
10:45 Every piece of public policy is for sale under Trump
12:30 UAE exec bought 49% stake in Trump company for $500m
13:15 Steve Witkoff also made millions from the deal
15:30 This scandal makes Watergate look like a third rate burglary
17:00 After deal, government agreed to sell 500k advanced AI chips to UAE
18:30 Whoever controls reserves of World Liberty Financial controls the yields
20:15 Shortly after deal, Trump pardons the co-founder of Binance
21:15 This isn’t an isolated incident, it’s part of a much larger pattern
22:15 Company linked to Donald Trump Jr received billions in defense contracts
23:00 The founders obsessed over corruption and foreign influence
25:00 Is American policy being made for first family, not the country
26:00 Republicans obsessed over Hunter Biden selling paintings
27:15 If AI race is existential, then Trump signed our death warrant for money
28:30 If Congress won’t investigate, FBI should… but they won’t
29:15 Deals like this undermine U.S. sovereignty, everything is for sale
36:15 Dr. Annie Andrews joins the Chuck ToddCast
37:30 When did you first want to enter politics?
39:45 Did you learn about the healthcare business in med school?
42:15 Pediatricians should be leading the way on healthcare reform
43:00 Medicaid is largest insurer of children & has been gutted
43:45 Pediatricians dispute government vaccine policy for kids
45:15 We can’t trust medical info from the federal government
46:15 Has any RFK proclamation or policy actually made sense?
47:30 How do you deal with “Dr. Internet”?
48:30 Doctors need an online presence to counter disinformation
50:15 Why is it more profitable to run a non-profit over for-profit hospital?
51:00 Healthcare system is rewarded for proving more treatment, not better
52:30 We’re seeing a coordinated attack on our healthcare system
53:15 Jaime Harrison’s campaign in SC was a disaster
54:30 Easiest way to run in the south is to erase the D by your name
55:15 Many challenges to running as an independent
56:45 Democrats have a geographic disconnect with rural voters
57:45 Nothing has gotten better for rural black voters in SC
59:45 The pandemic was a huge reason for Harrison’s bad loss
1:00:30 How do you win over a voter that supported Trump?
1:01:30 Lindsey Graham is supporting unconstitutional actions
1:02:15 Graham isn’t a leader, he’s a follower & he follows Trump
1:03:15 Disappointing Nikki Haley couldn’t stand up to Trump more
1:05:15 South Carolinians says they want outsiders, then vote for insiders
1:06:00 Graham thinks he’s politically invulnerable
1:07:15 People will have their lives negatively impacted by GOP policy
1:08:30 What do you make of Nancy Mace’s political saliency?
1:09:30 Nancy Mace has devolved in recent years
1:10:45 Thoughts on Chuck Schumer as Dem leader in senate?
1:12:00 Jon Ossoff & Raphael Warnock provide blueprint for Dems in south
1:13:45 Trump & the administration must be held accountable
1:15:00 Dems must be bold in their agenda if they win the midterms
1:15:45 Impeachment shouldn’t be off the table
1:17:45 Can you be both a fighter and a uniter as a candidate?
1:19:00 Too many D.C. politicians are disconnected from the real world
1:20:15 How should congress regulate AI?
1:22:00 Profits can’t be the priority over common sense safety solutions
1:23:00 Best TV doctor show that gets it right? E.R. & The Pitt
1:24:15 Americans don’t understand what hospitals were like during Covid
1:25:15 What’s your campaigning rhythm as a candidate?
1:26:30 Clemson or South Carolina?
1:27:30 This Trump bribery scandal needs a sharp name for it to stand up
1:28:30 The bribery story is too complex to explain in a few minutes
1:30:00 ToddCast Time Machine – February 4th 1945
1:30:30 Stalin, Roosevelt & Churchill meet in Yalta
1:31:00 Yalta legitimized “spheres of influence”
1:32:00 Why Yalta was a mistake
1:32:45 Eastern Europe traded rule by Nazis to rule by the Soviets
1:33:45 Could Yalta have been avoided?
1:35:15 Roosevelt gambled Stalin could be restrained
1:36:00 Yalta traded long term legitimacy for short term stability
1:37:30 Yalta avoided immediate catastrophe, planted seeds for future tumult
1:40:00 Ask Chuck
1:40:15 Would you consider having Ralph Nader on as a guest?
1:43:30 Any meaningful parallels between Minneapolis and Kent State?
1:46:00 Will there be an election or will Trump declare an emergency to stop it?
1:48:30 Will future president focus more on domestic issues if filibuster is removed?
1:53:00 Is it normal for a president to have so many cognitive exams?
1:56:00 Differences between charter schools and magnet schools?
1:59:00 College basketball thoughts
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Chuck Todd reacts to the news of independent journalist and former CNN host Don Lemon being arrested and charged by Trump’s Department of Justice over the Minnesota church protest and calls it chilling. He argues this is a direct assault on the First Amendment right to freedom of the press, but believes Lemon will beat the charges. He believes the arrest is Trump’s way of trying to distract from a terrible month for the president.
Timeline:
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00:00 Don Lemon’s arrest is pretty chilling
01:00 The 1st amendment is meant to protect speech you do & don’t like
02:15 This is a chilling moment for independent media
03:00 This feels like a desperate distraction from the administration
04:00 Journalists working for corporate media get some legal protection
05:15 One person’s journalist is another person’s activist
05:45 There’s a reason free speech and press is the FIRST amendment
06:45 If Lemon is somehow convicted, it’s an erosion of what America is
08:00 Trump had a terrible month & Republicans starting to break with him
09:45 Constitutional rights are for people we don’t like or agree with too
10:30 We’re going to find out who the “free speech” hypocrites are
11:45 White House is celebrating the government violating 1st amendment
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In this episode of the Chuck ToddCast, Chuck digs into the political fallout surrounding Kristi Noem, Stephen Miller, and a Trump White House that remains intensely reactive to public opinion. While Noem keeps her job—for now—new polling paints a bleak picture for both her and the administration, with Trump’s economic numbers underwater, disapproval near all-time highs, and even his own base increasingly uneasy with ICE’s aggressive tactics. Chuck unpacks why Noem’s performative politics may make her expendable, why Miller is untouchable as Trump’s “bizarro Dick Cheney,” and how Trump’s inner circle is once again showing signs of instability as voters question whether the president is focused on the issues that actually matter.
The conversation then zooms out to a broader diagnosis of America’s democratic dysfunction, drawing on Chuck’s recent campus speech about why this moment feels uniquely unstable. From razor-thin modern elections and the collapse of congressional responsibility to unsettling parallels with 19th-century politics, Chuck argues that the presidency has become overly powerful because Congress has failed to govern. Fixing what’s broken, he warns, won’t come from political elites—it will require engaged citizens, serious institutional reform, and possibly constitutional amendments to rebuild a government voters have been loudly signaling they no longer trust.
Then, author and writer for The New Yorker, Jason Zengerle joins the Chuck ToddCast for a deep dive into his book “Hated By All The Right People” about Tucker Carlson’s rise—and why he’s become the clearest avatar for the unraveling of modern American conservatism. The conversation traces how Carlson’s personal history, elite upbringing paired with outsider grievance, and long-running resentments toward figures like Bill Kristol helped shape a worldview centered on anger, masculinity, and cultural backlash. Though he styles himself as anti-establishment, Tucker remains very much a Washington insider, increasingly influential even after leaving Fox News and emerging as the true heir to Rush Limbaugh, with real political impact on figures like J.D. Vance.
Chuck and Zengerle also explore how Trump subsumed conservatism, why Tucker may be the figure best positioned to keep Trumpism alive after Trump, and how white male grievance now sits at the core of conservative cultural politics. From the Iraq War’s role in Carlson’s ideological shift to his calculated positioning on Israel, media, and elite power, the episode asks what “real America” conservatism even means anymore—and whether there’s any path back for Never Trumpers, institutional Republicans, or business leaders who’ve bent the knee to a movement that no longer resembles the party they once knew.
Finally, Chuck answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment and expands on his Hall of Fame rant in light of Bill Belichick not getting in on the first ballot.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction
07:00 Kristi Noem still has her job, but Trump is reactive to public opinion
08:15 Noem’s profile feels like someone Trump is willing to dump
09:15 Trump will never fire Stephen Miller
10:00 Miller understands how to work government like a bizarro Dick Cheney
11:30 Does Miller have a conservative vision, or is he just a reactionary?
13:00 Trump may use Kristi Noem as a heat shield
14:00 Noem’s theatrics have created terrible optics
16:15 New Fox News poll has terrible numbers for Trump
18:15 Numbers in the poll could spell doom for Kristi Noem
19:15 Only 61% of Republicans say country is better off today
20:00 Trump’s numbers on the economy are underwater
21:45 Trump’s disapproval near all-time highs
22:45 Voters don’t think Trump is spending enough time on the economy
24:30 Trump’s job rating higher than almost all the individual issues
25:45 59% think ICE has been too aggressive
28:00 Even parts of Trump’s base think ICE has been too aggressive
29:00 Support for abolishing ICE has doubled since 2018
30:00 Trump’s inner circle never stays around for long
31:00 If Fox runs the poll extensively on air, Noem is in trouble
32:45 Chuck’s campus speech on where we are now & how to get out of it
33:45 We may have grown up in a more stable outlier era of American history
35:30 The cold war kept both parties sober & more mainstream
36:45 Six of our 21st century presidential elections decided by 5pts or less
37:15 Politics today is more similar to the 19th century
38:00 We’re too occupied with the presidency due to congress failing
39:00 Congress is more occupied with keeping power than legislating
40:30 We aren’t getting out of this until congress becomes functional
41:00 We will need constitutional amendments to fix the democracy
42:30 The citizens will need to fix this, can’t depend on congress
43:15 Voters gave a primal scream that they wanted a better government
50:30 Jason Zengerle joins the Chuck ToddCast
52:00 Why Tucker Carlson is the avatar for unraveling of conservatism
53:30 Tucker was abandoned by his mother, how did that affect his journey?
54:15 That abandonment shaped his worldview about women
55:30 Tucker’s anger at Bill Kristol is a big part of his evolution
57:30 Kristol has become the stand in for media elites in Tucker’s mind
58:30 Tucker tried to be a younger, cooler version of George Will
59:30 Carlson is very much a DC insider, but portrays himself as outsider
1:01:00 Tucker wasn’t a rich kid, but was raised like one
1:03:00 Tucker & Trump similarly hung with the elite, but felt like outsiders
1:03:45 Tucker trashed Trump in texts while praising him on the air
1:04:30 Tucker was more willing to criticize Trump than other Fox hosts
1:06:00 Tucker wasn’t viewed as a top-tier personality at Fox for years
1:06:45 Fox News is bigger than the on-air personalities
1:07:45 Leaving Fox didn’t diminish Tucker’s standing, more influential now
1:09:30 Tucker is the true heir to Rush Limbaugh
1:10:15 Tucker was influential in getting J.D. Vance elected in Ohio
1:11:15 Vance & Tucker are very ideologically aligned
1:12:30 White male grievance is central to conservative cultural politics
1:14:15 Tucker believes what he says & has a larger project for America
1:15:15 Tucker is more Pat Buchanan than Rush Limbaugh
1:16:00 Iraq war was very influential in changing Tucker’s ideology
1:17:15 Tucker needled Jewish Neocon Republicans by criticizing Israel
1:19:00 Tuckers sees party energy is anti-Israel & getting ahead of it
1:20:45 What is the definition of conservatism in “real America”?
1:21:45 Conservatism has been subsumed by Trump
1:23:00 Will conservatism snap back to its prior form after Trump is gone?
1:25:30 Tucker seems like the figure that could keep Trump’s politics alive
1:27:15 Tucker says he’s not mad at the Murdochs but he is
1:28:30 Tucker didn’t agree to be interviewed for the book, why?
1:31:15 Tucker likes to bash the media, but he’s one of their favorite sources
1:32:30 Tucker left D.C. after protestors showed up to his house
1:33:45 Who are the “camps” that will fight for control after Trump?
1:34:45 Ted Cruz & Rand Paul are the only two non “blood & soil” prominent R’s
1:36:00 Trump is the least “MAGA” person in the MAGA movement
1:37:45 Where do the Nikki Haley, John Kasich type voters go?
1:38:45 Business leaders have bent the knee to Trump
1:39:45 Who in conservative media world was most willing to talk?
1:41:00 Tucker doesn’t spend much time talking to people he disagrees with
1:42:30 Tucker wants to go back to a male & white dominated society
1:43:45 The Never Trumpers won’t be taking back the party
1:45:00 What Jason is working on at The New Yorker
1:48:00 Marco Rubio’s evolution has been fascinating
1:53:00 Chuck’s thoughts on interview with Jason Zengerle
1:53:30 Ask Chuck
1:53:45 Who in real life is Veep’s Mike McClintock based on?
1:56:30 Impact of Native American voters on elections?
1:59:45 What signs will the GOP show if they think they’ll lose the senate?
2:03:00 The viral blue/yellow dress feels like a metaphor for politics
2:05:15 Any connection between income inequality and growing isolationism?
2:11:00 Why is Nathan’s Famous allowed to be bought by a Chinese company?
2:13:30 Hall of Fame rant
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Author and writer for The New Yorker, Jason Zengerle joins the Chuck ToddCast for a deep dive into his book “Hated By All The Right People” about Tucker Carlson’s rise—and why he’s become the clearest avatar for the unraveling of modern American conservatism. The conversation traces how Carlson’s personal history, elite upbringing paired with outsider grievance, and long-running resentments toward figures like Bill Kristol helped shape a worldview centered on anger, masculinity, and cultural backlash. Though he styles himself as anti-establishment, Tucker remains very much a Washington insider, increasingly influential even after leaving Fox News and emerging as the true heir to Rush Limbaugh, with real political impact on figures like J.D. Vance.
Chuck and Zengerle also explore how Trump subsumed conservatism, why Tucker may be the figure best positioned to keep Trumpism alive after Trump, and how white male grievance now sits at the core of conservative cultural politics. From the Iraq War’s role in Carlson’s ideological shift to his calculated positioning on Israel, media, and elite power, the episode asks what “real America” conservatism even means anymore—and whether there’s any path back for Never Trumpers, institutional Republicans, or business leaders who’ve bent the knee to a movement that no longer resembles the party they once knew.
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Timeline:
(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements)
00:00 Jason Zengerle joins the Chuck ToddCast
01:30 Why Tucker Carlson is the avatar for unraveling of conservatism
03:00 Tucker was abandoned by his mother, how did that affect his journey?
03:45 That abandonment shaped his worldview about women
05:00 Tucker’s anger at Bill Kristol is a big part of his evolution
07:00 Kristol has become the stand in for media elites in Tucker’s mind
08:00 Tucker tried to be a younger, cooler version of George Will
09:00 Carlson is very much a DC insider, but portrays himself as outsider
10:30 Tucker wasn’t a rich kid, but was raised like one
12:30 Tucker & Trump similarly hung with the elite, but felt like outsiders
13:15 Tucker trashed Trump in texts while praising him on the air
14:00 Tucker was more willing to criticize Trump than other Fox hosts
15:30 Tucker wasn’t viewed as a top-tier personality at Fox for years
16:15 Fox News is bigger than the on-air personalities
17:15 Leaving Fox didn’t diminish Tucker’s standing, more influential now
19:00 Tucker is the true heir to Rush Limbaugh
19:45 Tucker was influential in getting J.D. Vance elected in Ohio
20:45 Vance & Tucker are very ideologically aligned
22:00 White male grievance is central to conservative cultural politics
23:45 Tucker believes what he says & has a larger project for America
24:45 Tucker is more Pat Buchanon than Rush Limbaugh
25:30 Iraq war was very influential in changing Tucker’s ideology
26:45 Tucker needled Jewish Neocon Republicans by criticizing Israel
28:30 Tuckers sees party energy is anti-Israel & getting ahead of it
30:15 What is the definition of conservatism in “real America”?
31:15 Conservatism has been subsumed by Trump
32:30 Will conservatism snap back to its prior form after Trump is gone?
35:00 Tucker seems like the figure that could keep Trump’s politics alive
36:45 Tucker says he’s not mad at the Murdochs but he is
38:00 Tucker didn’t agree to be interviewed for the book, why?
40:45 Tucker likes to bash the media, but he’s one of their favorite sources
42:00 Tucker left D.C. after protestors showed up to his house
43:15 Who are the “camps” that will fight for control after Trump?
44:15 Ted Cruz & Rand Paul are the only two non “blood & soil” prominent R’s
45:30 Trump is the least “MAGA” person in the MAGA movement
47:15 Where do the Nikki Haley, John Kasich type voters go?
48:15 Business leaders have bent the knee to Trump
49:15 Who in conservative media world was most willing to talk?
50:30 Tucker doesn’t spend much time talking to people his disagrees with
52:00 Tucker wants to go back to a male & white dominated society
53:15 The Never Trumpers won’t be taking back the party
54:30 What Jason is working on at The New Yorker
57:30 Marco Rubio’s evolution has been fascinating
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