"The Cognitive Revolution: How AI Changes Everything"
"The Cognitive Revolution: How AI Changes Everything"
"The Cognitive Revolution: How AI Changes Everything"
Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
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A biweekly podcast where hosts Erik Torenberg and Nathan Labenz interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the co... More
A biweekly podcast where hosts Erik Torenberg and Nathan Labenz interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the co... More
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E29: The AI Chip Revolution with Andrew Feldman of Cerebras
Nathan Labenz sits down with Andrew Feldman, CEO and Co-Founder of Cerebras Systems, a company building a new class of computer system for accelerating AI and changing the future of work. Cerebras Systems is the creator of the world’s largest chip, at 2.6 trillion transistors. In this episode, they discuss the founding story of Cerebras, the experience of creating the world’s largest chip, and the process that goes into chip design and manufacturing for an AI-focused chip.
This episode is the first part of our hardware exploration series focused on the people building at the forefront of hardware applications in AI.
LINKS:
Cerebras: https://www.cerebras.net/
Book: The Chip War by Chris Miller
PODCAST RECOMMENDATION:
The AI Breakdown: https://pod.link/1680633614
As anyone in AI knows, the pace of progress of new releases is relentless. The AI Breakdown is a daily podcast (10-20min long) that helps us ensure we don't miss anything important by curating news and analysis.
TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) Preview
(04:27) Andrew’s story of creating the world’s largest chip and Cerebras
(07:19) What is a chip?
(08:14) The diversity of chips and what they can accomplish
(09:47) What is it like to design a 2.5 trillion transistor chip?
(12:41) The founding story of Cerebras and building the team
(14:20) Sponsor: Omneky
(23:00) What was the hardest part about building the company?
(26:11) What happens after designing the chip’s blueprint?
(27:29) The tradeoffs needed in chipmaking
(34:08) The comparison between chips and neural networks
(38:31) The generalization vs specialization of a chip
(40:11) Sparse compute vs dense compute
(43:55) Ghost in the machine
(46:54) Supply chain challenges of the Cerebras chip
(54:59) The future for chips
(58:19) Building chip clusters
(58:57) The Cerebras business model
(01:00:41) Building a chip cluster vs using a Cerebras chip
(01:02:57) Giant chips on the edge
(01:05:32) What is the edge?
(01:08:04) Andrew’s favorite AI products
(01:10:08) Would Andrew get a Neuralink implant?
(01:14:16) Consciousness and chips
(01:17:50) AI hopes and fears
TWITTER:
@CogRev_Podcast
@andrewdfeldman (Andrew)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
Music Credit: MusicLM
More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com
2023-05-25
1:21:08
E28: Keeping the AI Revolution on the Rails with Shreya Rajpal of Guardrails AI
Nathan Labenz sits down with engineer Shreya Rajpal, the creator of Guardrails AI, a new Python library that allows developers to add a layer of output, validation and correction to their code. Practically guardrails can ensure a reliable interface between language models and more traditional deterministic software systems. At the same time, mind-bending and potentially risky use case frameworks like Guardrails allow developers to ask and answer entirely new kinds of questions.
Talking to Shreya really reinforced just how early we are in LLM’s impact on the software industry. We were introduced to Shreya’s work when recording our interview with Matt Welsh, the CEO of Fixie.AI (Ep 19: How AI Agents Will Change How We Work).
LINKS:
Guardrails AI: https://shreyar.github.io/guardrails/
RECOMMENDED PODCASTS:
Upstream: https://link.chtbl.com/Upstream
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(05:00) Why Shreya built Guardrails AI
(08:33) Common ways LMs can “go off the rails” and how Guardrails can correct it
(13:45) Discussion of validators
(15:31) Sponsor: Omneky
(18:48) Business and creative use cases of Guardrails AI
(25:00) What can be achieved by Guardrails AI that cannot be achieved by traditional code
(32:44) How agents work vs how Guardrails works
(35:34) AI as shepherd vs delegating to AI and the role of human understanding
(39:54) Trust deficit and risks
(46:33) Is it realistic to imagine GPT-4 using Guardrails?
(52:00) How Shreya thinks about security
(57:02) How Shreya thinks about embeddings
(1:05:05) How Shreya thinks about problemsolving with LMs
(1:07:50) Shreya on OpenAI’s Evals Library, Anthropic’s Constitutional AI
(1:12:55) Discussion of determinism
(1:15:00) Recommendations for developers to minimize overhead
(1:26:00) Predictions about providers in the space of LMs
(1:29:30) Shreya’s favorite AI tools
(1:30:00) Would Shreya get a neuralink implant
(1:31:50) Biggest hopes and fears for AI
TWITTER:
@CogRev_Podcast
@ShreyaR (Shreya)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
Music Credit: MusicLM
More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com
2023-05-23
1:34:30
E27: “Google’s Med-PaLM and Med-PaLM2 with Vivek Natarajan”
Nathan sits down with Vivek Natarajan, research scientist at Google Health. Vivek leads the Google Brain moonshot behind Med-PaLM, Google’s flagship medical large language model, featured in The Economist, The Scientific American, CNBC, and Forbes. In this episode, they discuss the foundational models that Vivek and team built before Med-PaLM, the techniques used to develop Med-PaLM which will be of interest to anyone developing AI systems for high-stakes use cases, and the capabilities for Med-PaLM to equalize access to medical knowledge and care.
This episode is part of a series centered on talking to the people at the cutting edge of building AI-driven solutions in medicine.
PODCAST RECOMMENDATION:
Upstream: https://link.chtbl.com/Upstream
LINKS:
https://sites.research.google/med-palm/
FEEDBACK / COLLABORATE WITH NATHAN:
Email: [email protected]
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(03:43) The story of how Med-PaLM came to be
(09:41) Building Med-PaLM’s infrastructure
(13:10) The US medical licensing exam as a measure of AI progress
(15:23) Sponsor: Omneky
(18:17) Practicality of benchmarking in real-world usage
(21:39) Overcoming the shortfalls of Flan-PaLM with Med-PaLM
(25:08) Choosing to use soft prompting over few shot prompting
(30:36) The process of training Flan-PaLM
(37:31) A curriculum approach to soft-prompting
(38:43) Layperson vs expert interactions with LLMs
(43:54) How did the Google team facilitate user exploration of the model’s capabilities?
(46:58) Shift in techniques from Med-PaLM to Med-PaLM2
(50:21) Using different prompting strategies with Med-PaLM2
(57:33) Is Med-PaLM 2 preferred over clinicians?
(01:02:28) Will there be a multimodal version of Med-PaLM?
(01:04:52) Breakthroughs required for AI to further advance human potential
(01:10:23) The Med-PaLM business plan
(01:12:08) Is there a vision for a consumer product?
(01:15:46) The pros and cons of pre-training a model
(01:19:45) Vivek’s favorite AI products
(01:21:01) Would Vivek get a Neuralink implant?
(01:23:08) AI hopes and fears
TWITTER:
@CogRev_Podcast
@vivnat (Vivek)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
Music Credit: MusicLM
More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/
2023-05-21
1:26:13
E26: [Bonus Episode] Connor Leahy on AGI, GPT-4, and Cognitive Emulation w/ FLI Podcast
[Bonus Episode] Future of Life Institute Podcast host Gus Docker interviews Conjecture CEO Connor Leahy to discuss GPT-4, magic, cognitive emulation, demand for human-like AI, and aligning superintelligence. You can read more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.dev
Future of Life Institute is the organization that recently published an open letter calling for a six-month pause on training new AI systems. FLI was founded by Jann Tallinn who we interviewed in Episode 16 of The Cognitive Revolution.
We think their podcast is excellent. They frequently interview critical thinkers in AI like Neel Nanda, Ajeya Cotra, and Connor Leahy - an episode we found particularly fascinating and is airing for our audience today.
The FLI Podcast also recently interviewed Nathan Labenz for a 2-part episode:
https://futureoflife.org/podcast/nathan-labenz-on-how-ai-will-transform-the-economy/
SUBSCRIBE: Future of Life Institute Podcast:
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/future-of-life-institute-podcast/id1170991978
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Op1WO3gwVwCrYHg4eoGyP
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode introduction
(01:55) GPT-4
(18:30) "Magic" in machine learning
(29:43) Cognitive emulations
(40:00) Machine learning VS explainability
(49:50) Human data = human AI?
(1:01:50) Analogies for cognitive emulations
(1:28:10) Demand for human-like AI
(1:33:50) Aligning superintelligence
If you'd like to listen to Part 2 of this interview with Connor Leahy, you can head here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/connor-leahy-on-the-state-of-ai-and-alignment-research/id1170991978?i=1000609972001
2023-05-19
1:38:22
E25: Revolutionizing Patient Care with Neal Khosla of Curai Health
Nathan and Erik sit down with Neal Khosla, founder of Curai Health, a venture-backed virtual care startup using AI to provide low-cost primary healthcare. Prior to his current role at Curai, Neal was a machine learning researcher at Google and Stanford. In this episode, they discuss the current state of AI in medicine, what the future patient experience may look like, and how developments in AI healthcare may interact with different regulatory and social forces across the globe.
FEEDBACK
We'd love to hear your feedback or answer any listener questions live on an upcoming episode. DM @labenz on Twitter or email us at [email protected] with "TCR" in the subject line.
We'd appreciate it immensely if you left us a review on Apple Podcasts or a rating on Spotify!
TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) Preview
(04:32) The future of AI in medicine
(12:50) Patient experience in AI-driven medicine and the current state of AI in medicine
(15:04) Sponsor: Omneky
(20:34) Building the LLM architecture for medicine
(25:25) Current state of the art for AI in medicine
(28:54) Evaluating LLM performance in medicine
(31:49) Benchmarking LLMs in medicine
(39:17) Using the Socratic method in training LLMs
(43:57) Multimodal systems and deploying multiple models in medicine
(51:30) The future of LLM creation and usage
(59:47) The interaction of AI medicine with social and regulatory forces
(01:11:00) AI adoption in countries with centralized healthcare systems
(01:13:37) How should we regulate the usage of AI in medicine?
(01:16:57) AI-first systems in medicine
(01:18:19) Is there an obligation to deploy AI in medicine in its current state?
(01:20:48) Neal’s favorite AI products
(01:22:21) Would Neal get a Neuralink implant?
(01:24:54) AI hopes and fears
TWITTER:
@CogRev_Podcast
@nealkhosla (Neal)
@labenz (Nathan)
RECOMMENDED PODCASTS:
Upstream: https://link.chtbl.com/Upstream
SPONSOR:
Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com
About "The Cognitive Revolution: How AI Changes Everything"
A biweekly podcast where hosts Erik Torenberg and Nathan Labenz interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.