The HaltingWinter Podcast

Garrett Corbin: Chasing Purpose, Not Prestige
The Career Advice Every Public Servant Needs

Episode 367 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Sponsored by Tyler Technologies
*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "7f0aa905-d803-4481-9e44-c1a088a011df" data-testid= "conversation-turn-12" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> Most people think successful careers are built by carefully following a plan. Garrett Corbin's story suggests otherwise.
As Town Manager of Carrabassett Valley, Maine, Garrett's path to local government was anything but predictable. He dreamed of working in Washington, D.C., studied international relations and law, served in state government, practiced as an attorney, and spent years advocating for municipalities through the Maine Municipal Association before discovering that his greatest opportunity to make a difference was in a small mountain town he had loved since childhood.
In this conversation, Garrett shares how each unexpected stop along his journey prepared him for leadership, why experience often teaches more than education, and why the most meaningful careers are built around purpose rather than prestige.
We also explore the unique role local government plays in shaping communities, the importance of leading with integrity, and why finding work you truly believe in can transform both your career and your life.
About Garrett Corbin
Garrett Corbin is the Town Manager of Carrabassett Valley, Maine, home to Sugarloaf Mountain. Before becoming town manager, he spent more than a decade with the Maine Municipal Association as both a legislative advocate and attorney, helping municipalities navigate public policy and legal issues. Garrett holds degrees from Boston University, the University of Maine School of Law, and the University of Southern Maine, and is passionate about strengthening local government and serving the communities that make Maine unique.
This Episode is Sponsored by:
Tyler Technologies – the nation's leading provider of software and technology solutions built specifically for local government. From artificial intelligence and resident engagement to budgeting, planning, and public service delivery, Tyler helps communities operate more efficiently and serve residents more effectively. Learn more at https://tylertech.com/winter

The Municipal Leadership Development Circle (MLDC) - The MLDC is a private leadership community designed exclusively for local government professionals. Through practical tools, meaningful conversations, and a nationwide network of peers, members gain the support and perspective needed to lead with greater confidence, clarity, and impact. https://haltingwinter.com/MLDC
Connect With Seth Winterhalter
Seth Winterhalter is a keynote speaker, storyteller, and President of HaltingWinter, a national media company dedicated to telling the stories of local government. Through The HaltingWinter Podcast and the nationwide HaltingWinter Tour, he highlights the people and communities shaping America from the ground up, celebrating public servants, strengthening the profession, and inspiring the next generation to pursue lives of purpose and impact through local government.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter
Website: https://www.HaltingWinter.com

Show Notes: MLDC Book of the Week – How to Win Friends and Influence People
Episode 366 of The HaltingWinter Podcast
_*]:min-w-0 gap-3"> _*]:min-w-0 gap-3"> Dale Carnegie published this book in 1936 and it has never gone out of print. Its core principles still fail to consistently show up in the average staff meeting, council session, or hard conversation. This week inside the MLDC, we're spending five days with Carnegie, not because his ideas are new, but because the gap between knowing them and actually practicing them is where most leadership breakdowns live. Seth unpacks why Carnegie's framework hits differently in local government, where authority has real limits, relationships are long, and the ability to lead through genuine influence rather than positional power isn't optional. If you're a local government leader who wants to go deeper, the MLDC is where this week's work is happening. Learn more at HaltingWinter.com/MLDC.



Join the MLDC
The Municipal Leadership Development Circle (MLDC) is a network of local government leaders from across North America, including city/county managers, administrators, and department heads, giving you access to:
✔ A weekly podcast series breaking down one book for municipal applications
✔ Daily blog reflections and implementation tools
✔ Our monthly virtual mastermind sessions
✔ Monthly webinars with relevant training for local gov leaders

➡ Learn more at https://HaltingWinter.com/MLDC
Resources Mentioned
Book: How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
Connect with Seth Winterhalter
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter
Website: https://HaltingWinter.com

Eric Swanson: Just Keep Showing Up
Why Resilience Is a Leader's Greatest Strength

Episode 365 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Sponsored by Tyler Technologies
*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "7f0aa905-d803-4481-9e44-c1a088a011df" data-testid= "conversation-turn-12" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> Leadership isn't about avoiding adversity. It's about continuing to show up, especially when the path gets difficult.
In this episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast, Seth Winterhalter sits down with Eric Swanson, City Manager of Phoenix, Oregon, retired U.S. Air Force Reserve Colonel, and a public servant whose career has taken him from small-town Maine to North Carolina, South Dakota, and Oregon. Along the way, Eric has navigated political transitions, military deployments, community disasters, career setbacks, and one of Oregon's most devastating wildfires.
Eric shares how a childhood rooted in faith, family, and service shaped his approach to leadership long before he entered local government. He reflects on becoming a town manager at just 25 years old, learning to lead without having all the answers, and why asking for help is one of a leader's greatest strengths.
The conversation also explores the realities of city management that rarely make headlines: adapting to new councils and mayors, earning trust during times of uncertainty, balancing public service with family, and staying committed when criticism inevitably comes.
Eric also recounts returning to Phoenix after stepping away from city management, only to lead the community through COVID-19 and the devastating Almeda Fire. His story illustrates how trust, resilience, and strong relationships can help communities recover and rebuild even after unimaginable loss.
Whether you're a city manager, department director, elected official, or aspiring public servant, this episode is a powerful reminder that leadership isn't measured by a career without setbacks; it's measured by the courage to keep showing up.
About Eric Swanson
Eric Swanson is the City Manager of Phoenix, Oregon, and a retired Colonel in the U.S. Air Force Reserve with more than three decades of leadership in public service. Throughout his municipal career, Eric has served communities in Maine, North Carolina, South Dakota, and Oregon, leading organizations through political transitions, natural disasters, economic challenges, and long-term community development. Following the devastating 2020 Almeda Fire, he helped guide Phoenix's recovery by securing millions of dollars in grant funding and rebuilding critical infrastructure. Drawing from both military and municipal leadership, Eric is passionate about resilient leadership, public service, and helping communities thrive through trust, adaptability, and unwavering commitment.
This Episode is Sponsored by:
Tyler Technologies – the nation's leading provider of software and technology solutions built specifically for local government. From artificial intelligence and resident engagement to budgeting, planning, and public service delivery, Tyler helps communities operate more efficiently and serve residents more effectively. Learn more at https://tylertech.com/winter

The Municipal Leadership Development Circle (MLDC) - The MLDC is a private leadership community designed exclusively for local government professionals. Through practical tools, meaningful conversations, and a nationwide network of peers, members gain the support and perspective needed to lead with greater confidence, clarity, and impact. https://haltingwinter.com/MLDC
Connect With Seth Winterhalter
Seth Winterhalter is a keynote speaker, executive coach, and President of HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions. As host of The HaltingWinter Podcast, he shines a spotlight on the people behind local government, sharing the inspiring stories of city and county leaders from across the nation to elevate the profession, encourage those who serve, and inspire the next generation to pursue meaningful careers in public service.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter
Website: https://www.HaltingWinter.com

Ken Pulskamp: We Are Architects of the Good Life
How Local Government Builds Thriving Communities

Episode 364 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Sponsored by Tyler Technologies
*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "7f0aa905-d803-4481-9e44-c1a088a011df" data-testid= "conversation-turn-12" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> In this episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast, Seth Winterhalter sits down with Ken Pulskamp, retired City Manager of Santa Clarita, former President of the League of California Cities City Managers Department, and current Executive Director of the California City Management Foundation (CCMF). Over a career spanning nearly four decades, Ken helped build one of the nation's most respected municipal organizations from the ground up while shaping a culture that continues to thrive today.
Ken shares the remarkable story of Santa Clarita's incorporation, what it was like to build a city government with virtually no bureaucracy, and the leadership principles that earned the organization national recognition. From hiring and organizational culture to integrity, enthusiasm, and decisive leadership, this conversation is filled with practical wisdom for every public servant.
If you've ever wondered what truly makes a community flourish, this episode offers a compelling answer: great communities begin with great leadership.
About Ken Pulskamp
Ken Pulskamp is the retired City Manager of Santa Clarita, California, where he spent more than three decades helping build one of the nation's most respected municipal organizations. After beginning his career with the City of Fresno and serving as Assistant City Manager in Bakersfield, Ken joined Santa Clarita shortly after its incorporation, helping shape the city's culture, operations, and long-term vision from the ground up before serving as City Manager from 2002 to 2012. He later served as Interim City Manager for the City of Burbank and currently serves as Executive Director of the California City Management Foundation (CCMF), where he supports and develops city managers across California. Throughout his distinguished career, Ken has been recognized for his commitment to ethical leadership, organizational excellence, and strengthening the local government profession.
This Episode is Sponsored by:
Tyler Technologies – the nation's leading provider of software and technology solutions built specifically for local government. From artificial intelligence and resident engagement to budgeting, planning, and public service delivery, Tyler helps communities operate more efficiently and serve residents more effectively. Learn more at https://tylertech.com/winter

The Municipal Leadership Development Circle (MLDC) - The MLDC is a private leadership community designed exclusively for local government professionals. Through practical tools, meaningful conversations, and a nationwide network of peers, members gain the support and perspective needed to lead with greater confidence, clarity, and impact. https://haltingwinter.com/MLDC
Connect With Seth Winterhalter
Seth Winterhalter is a keynote speaker, executive coach, and President of HaltingWinter Municipal Solutions. As host of The HaltingWinter Podcast, he shines a spotlight on the people behind local government, sharing the inspiring stories of city and county leaders from across the nation to elevate the profession, encourage those who serve, and inspire the next generation to pursue meaningful careers in public service.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter
Website: https://www.HaltingWinter.com

Show Notes: MLDC Book of the Week – The Splendid and the Vile
Episode 363 of The HaltingWinter Podcast
_*]:min-w-0 gap-3"> _*]:min-w-0 gap-3"> Louis Zamperini survived 47 days adrift in the Pacific Ocean and more than two years as a prisoner of war where he was subjected to conditions designed to break him completely. And yet, they didn't.
In this episode of The HaltingWinter Podcast, we continue our MLDC Summer Series [Stories That Shape Leaders] with Laura Hillenbrand's Unbroken, and explore why a World War II survival story might be the most important leadership reading you do this summer. We unpack what Zamperini's story reveals about how resilience actually gets built, why perception shapes outcomes more than circumstances do, what it really means to protect your identity when the environment is working against it, and the hidden cost of carrying old resentments into your present leadership.
If you want to go deeper on all five ideas this week, the MLDC is working through them with daily blog posts, podcast episodes, and a community of local government leaders. Head to haltingwinter.com/MLDC to join the community.



Join the MLDC
The Municipal Leadership Development Circle (MLDC) is a network of local government leaders from across North America, including city/county managers, administrators, and department heads, giving you access to: 

     ✔ A weekly podcast series breaking down one book for municipal applications
     ✔ Daily blog reflections and implementation tools
     ✔ Our monthly virtual mastermind sessions
     ✔ Monthly webinars with relevant training for local gov leaders
➡ Learn more at https://HaltingWinter.com/MLDC
Resources Mentioned
Book: Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand
Connect with Seth Winterhalter
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter
Website: https://HaltingWinter.com