The Living Clean Podcast

What started as a simple message turned into an unexpected journey through the history of Narcotics Anonymous in Indiana.
After receiving a random request for ideas and questions for the Dinosaur Panel at the 40th Annual Fun in the Sun Hog Roast in the South Central Area of Indiana, Francis realized there was a much bigger story waiting to be told. Instead of just helping prepare for the panel, he sat down with Indiana's own NA History Couple, Jessica R. and Tony R., to explore the rich history of the fellowship throughout the Hoosier State.
Whether you're attending the 40th Annual Fun in the Sun Hog Roast, interested in NA history, or simply enjoy hearing how the message of recovery spread one addict at a time, this episode is filled with experience, strength, hope—and a few unexpected turns.
Recovery is built one addict helping another, and our history reminds us how we got here.
The Living Clean Podcast is dedicated to preserving the history of Narcotics Anonymous and sharing the stories of the members who carried the message so that others could find recovery.

In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with Pamela T. to hear her recovery story and explore a journey through Narcotics Anonymous service that has taken her into some fascinating places.
Pamela shares her experience helping establish a new NA area and being involved during the early days of what was, at the time, a groundbreaking approach to service: Consensus-Based Decision Making (CBDM). We talk about what it was like watching those ideas develop, learning a different way of reaching decisions, and seeing how service structures evolve over time.
Her journey eventually took her to the NA World Service Office, where she had the opportunity to serve in different roles and participate in workgroups connected to NA literature. We discuss some of that experience, including her involvement with Guiding Principles: The Spirit of Our Traditions and A Spiritual Principle a Day.
This conversation is part recovery story, part NA history, and part look behind the curtain at how service and literature actually develop. More than anything, it is the story of where saying yes to service can take one recovering addict—and the experiences, relationships, and lessons picked up along the way.

Francis and Rowan return for a second panel discussion exploring the Arizona Narcotics Anonymous history book, As the Journey Began. This episode shifts from the stories in the book to the work of preserving them for future generations.
Together they discuss how technology has transformed NA archiving, from scanning old newsletters and photographs to organizing digital collections and safeguarding decades of fellowship history. The conversation explores the advantages and challenges of digital storage, graphic design, file management, and the importance of creating archives that can be accessed by future trusted servants.
Whether you're an NA history enthusiast, an archivist, a trusted servant, or simply curious about how our fellowship's story is preserved, this episode offers practical insights and thoughtful discussion about carrying our history forward in the digital age.
Recovery's message is carried one addict to another—but our history reminds us how we got here. Join Francis and Rowan as they continue the conversation on preserving the legacy of Narcotics Anonymous, one archive at a time.
If you are looking for the Arizona NA History book it can be found on Amazon: https://a.co/d/02FfBePZ

Every piece of NA history begins with someone who cared enough to preserve it.
In this episode, Francis sits down with members of the committee behind As the Journey Began, the Arizona Narcotics Anonymous history book. Together, they share the inspiring story of how a dedicated group of trusted servants spent years collecting memories, interviewing members, preserving photographs, verifying facts, and assembling the rich history of Narcotics Anonymous in Arizona.
The conversation explores the challenges and rewards of documenting a fellowship built on anonymity, the importance of preserving our collective experience for future generations, and the countless volunteers whose contributions made this remarkable project possible.
Whether you're passionate about NA history, involved in service, or simply curious about how fellowship history is preserved, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at one of the most significant regional history projects in Narcotics Anonymous.
Join us for an engaging discussion about fellowship, perseverance, and why remembering where we've been helps guide where we're going.
"We don't preserve history to live in the past—we preserve it so the message of recovery continues to inspire those who have yet to arrive."
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What happens when a story from the Narcotics Anonymous Basic Text comes to life?
Mason, Francis, and Jasmine B. sit down with Lucia C., whose recovery story, "A Brazilian Full of It," appears in the Basic Text. Lucia shares an honest and inspiring conversation about the road that led her to recovery—from traveling the world as a professional dancer during her addiction to finding a new way of life through Narcotics Anonymous.
Lucia reflects on the experiences that shaped her journey, the lessons she learned along the way, and what it means to have her story included in NA literature. She also brings listeners up to date on her life today, sharing how recovery continues to transform her relationships, purpose, and outlook.
The conversation also explores the growth of Narcotics Anonymous in Brazil, highlighting the unique cultural differences within the fellowship while celebrating the universal message that recovery is possible for any addict, regardless of language, culture, or geography.