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  • Working Drummer

    586 - Jason Smay pt. 2: Pursuing the Right Opportunities for the Right Reasons

    2026-09-24 | 1h 10 mins.
    Jason Smay has been in Nashville for a decade and plays with his son, McKinley James. Prior to that, he was based in Rochester, NY and toured with JD McPherson, Los Strait Jackets, and others. He and McKinley are also part of the Nashville group The Tiger Beats with Patrick Sweany and Ted Pecchio.

    In this episode, Jason talks about:

    Thinking about longevity in terms of exercise and overall health

    His roots drumming heroes

    Forming a relationship as young drummer with fellow Rochester native Steve Gadd

    Using one set of sounds for a whole record

    Why he loves producers who were/are also drummers

    His disposition toward the growing role of tech in all music

    Learning how to pursue the right opportunities for the right reasons

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    585 - Christopher Williams: Drumming for Accept, Life Between Tours, Financial Realities in the Metal World

    2026-09-13 | 1h 50 mins.
    Christopher Williams was born to be a drummer. Throughout high school, Williams drummed for several rock, jazz, metal, funk and blues groups, as well as the Greenville South Carolina youth orchestra. In 2004 he toured the United States as a member of the Carolina Gold Drum & Bugle corps. Christopher won a gold medal during the annual individual & ensemble competition and retained the title until 2006. Since 2008 he has been based in Nashville, Tennessee where he has built a strong reputation within the music community.

    During his school years, Williams was able to study with Paul Riddle of the Marshall Tucker band, Dr. Gary Robinson, Brian Tinkle of the cavaliers drum & bugle corps, Ed Shaughnessy, Jim Chapin, and Elvin Jones.

    During April of 2015 it was announced that Christopher would join the legendary heavy metal band Accept. Since then the group has played hundreds of shows in more than fifty countries around the world. Christopher has received global media attention, being featured in magazines and press since joining the band. When possible he performs, records, and tours with other artists & bands in a variety of genres.

    Some of the artists/groups he has worked with include: Gene Simmons Ace, Frehley, Accept, Andrew W.K,. Rex Brown, Derek St Holmes, John Corabi, Kaato, Mick Mars, Blackfoot, Lee Greenwood, Kid Rock, Peter Stroud, Her, A Thousand Horses, members of: Parliament Funkadelic, the Rolling Stones, Kiss, Slaughter, Cinderella, David Bowie, Rod Stewart, Alice Cooper, Steppenwolf.

    In this episode, Christopher talks about:

    The origins of his woodworking skills

    Managing life with a newborn son

    Drumming for the legendary band Accept

    How Christopher plans for recordings

    The importance of being able to read & write notation

    Inspiring experiences early in life

    How he spends his time between tours

    The financial realities of touring with a legendary band

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    584 - Jason Smay pt. 1

    2026-09-10 | 1h 11 mins.
    Jason Smay has been in Nashville for a decade and plays with his son, McKinley James. Prior to that, he was based in Rochester, NY and toured with JD McPherson, Los Strait Jackets, and others. He and McKinley are also part of the Nashville group The Tiger Beats with Patrick Sweany and Ted Pecchio.

    In this episode, Jason talks about:

    Bringing his son McKinley James up on the Rochester scene

    Touring with JD McPherson from 2011 to 2020

    Moving to Nashville because it was best for McKinley’s career

    Entering the Nashville scene without expectations

    Committing to what you love long enough for opportunities to come to you, rather than chasing trends or money gigs

    How people have the power to make or break your experience, regardless of the music and the money

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    583 - Kevin Watkins: K-Wat Drum Co., Building The Go To Snare, The Power of Relationships

    2026-09-03 | 1h 35 mins.
    Growing up in the church among talented and influential mentors, Kevin Watkins developed into a professional drummer and musician. Opportunities for recording, touring and even singing were readily available. His longest gig was with Country Gospel band, Brush Arbor. Although they were based in SoCal, they spent a lot of time in Nashville, recording and doing TV.

    Later in life, Kevin’s drumming took a bit of a back seat to audio engineer and production work. He quickly became passionate about the other side of the glass in part because of his experiences as a player.

    Even though live FOH and production opportunities kept him busy, drums always remained in focus. In early 2023, Kevin made it official and launched K-Wat Drum Co.

    In this episode, Kevin talks about:

    How he started building and restoring drums

    What makes a “go to” snare drum

    Creating a drum with character

    The reasoning behind the names of his snares

    The origin story of K-Wat drums

    Growing up playing in church

    Learning from Dave Williamson, Scott Williamson’s father

    His long time affiliation with the Christian band Brush Arbor

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    582 - Sarah Hagan: Her New Role with Gibraltar and Rogers, Harnessing Her People-Loving Super Power, What's Important in Social Media

    2026-08-27 | 1h 20 mins.
    Sarah has been behind the scenes in the drum industry for decades, from her longtime role at Zildjian to her podcast Sarah Hagan Backstage to founding and running the Royal Cymbal company with Paul Francis. Most recently, she stepped into her newest role as director of artist relations for both Gibraltar Hardware and Rogers Drums.

    In this episode, Sarah talks about:

    Her new gig with Rogers and Gibraltar and some of the flagship products from both companies

    How she got into the business side of drums as a college intern

    Harnessing her superpower of connecting with people and connecting people with each other

    The experience of hosting a podcast

    The Royal Cymbals venture, and what she learned from being a hands-on fabricator of cymbals

    How cymbal trends may be returning to “cymbal-sounding cymbals”

    Her perspective and advice about the social media landscape

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With 500 episodes and counting, Working Drummer Podcast is the source for those interested in what it’s like to be a professional drummer. Hosted by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta, Working Drummer covers it all with a dynamic range of pro drummers who represent many different genres and scenes. Each weekly interview features a different performer, sometimes with a less recognizable name, but always with an impressive and distinct body of work. This unique approach has garnered a loyal audience hungry for unfiltered stories about making a living as a musician today.
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