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Ancestral Kitchen

Alison Kay & Andrea Huehnerhoff
Ancestral Kitchen
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  • Ancestral Kitchen

    Encore: What Fermented Drinks Can I Make?

    2026-08-03 | 1h 33 mins.
    Today we’re bringing you an episode of the podcast that originally went out in 2023. It’s one of our favourites, all about fermented drinks. In it, we cover over 20 different fermented drinks, including:
    SCOBY ferments
    whey ferments
    grain ferments
    wild ferments

    And we talk to you about how you can incorporate these super health-giving, delicious foods into your life.
    So if you’ve ever asked the question, “What fermented drinks can I make?” or “What other fermented drinks can I make?” This episode is for you.
    For supporters of the podcast, there is a bonus e-book containing four of our favourite fermented drinks to download from the website.
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    Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.
    Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains
    Read our Guide to Milling Your Own Flour
    Get all three of the podcast cookbooks
    Wear our beautiful, sustainable merchandise
    Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics
    Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course
    Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.
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    Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!
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    What we cover:
    Scoby ferments
    Whey ferments, and how you don't have to use whey
    Grain ferments, including ale and boza
    Wild ferments
    Dairy ferments
    Gluten-free ferments
    Sugar and alcohol content concerns
    Using fermented drinks in smoothies
    Second-ferments

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    If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:
    Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your library
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    Resources:
    Boza course
    Sowans course (affiliate link)
    DIY proofing box article
    Kobo Fermentary (the gingerbug queen)
    Andrea's Kombucha article
    Alison Rye Kvass article
    Do you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to share
    The podcast has a website here!
    Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancestral Kitchen
    The podcast is on You Tube here
    The podcast is mixed and the music created by Alison's husband, Rob. Find him here: Robert Michael Kay
  • Ancestral Kitchen

    #136 - Ancestral Habits and Lifestyle Outside of the Kitchen: what we do and why it matters

    2026-07-20 | 1h 55 mins.
    If we understand the importance of eating nose to tail, preparing bone broth and fermenting our grains, we understand that these ancestral principles for preparing food help our body to benefit more from the food we are eating and to avoid some of the damaging effects of industrial foods.
    But are there other areas in our life where industrialized habits, behaviors and products are damaging our bodies and lives and are there ancestral, traditional ways of living we can look back at and try to imitate or recreate in our lives today, for optimal human thriving, longevity and happiness?
    Yes, there absolutely are. There are ways of ancestral living that reach beyond the doors of the kitchen that support our habits in the kitchen, and our habits in the kitchen support our life outside. It’s all inextricably interconnected. In this episode we talk about what some of these ancestral aspects of modern life are, and how we have been integrating them and what you can do to bring them into your life today.
    We have a further aftershow on our private supporter podcast, Kitchen Table Chats, where we discuss some important habits to cultivate, and we dropped a lot of links and resources in the show notes to support all of what we are discussing today. Rather than push our body to the limits of its tolerance, let's place ourselves in a prime position for thriving and succeeding, and enjoying our life more every day.
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    Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.
    Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains
    Read our Guide to Milling Your Own Flour
    Get all three of the podcast cookbooks
    Wear our beautiful, sustainable merchandise
    Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics
    Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course
    Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.
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    Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!
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    If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:
    Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your library
    Scroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening

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    Resources:
    Against the Machine by Paul Kingsnorth
    Whoop sleep study (one of many!)
    Episode 76: Essential Oils in an Ancestral Kitchen
    Episode 37: A Peek into Alison and Rob's Ancestral Lifestyle
    Episode 12: Why I Gave Away My iPhone
    Decluttering help from Minimal Mom on YouTube
    Whoop Podcast (they are on YouTube also)
    Simplicity Parenting by Kim John Payne - signs of PTSD in children in heavily programmed lives matching signs of PTSD in children raised in war zones
    Born to Run by Christopher McDougall
    Whole Body Barefoot: Transitioning Well to Minimal Footwear by Katy Bowman
    Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman
    Nutritious Movement, Katy's website
    Xero Shoes
    Many, many styles of barefoot shoes for all ages and styles: Anya's Reviews
    e-Ink Screen devices
    Do you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to share
    The podcast has a website here!
    Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancestral Kitchen
    The podcast is on You Tube here
    The podcast is mixed and the music created by Alison's husband, Rob. Find him here: Robert Michael Kay
  • Ancestral Kitchen

    #135 - 800 Egg Recipes! Interview with Too Many Eggs author Mimi Smith-Dvorak

    2026-07-06 | 1h 19 mins.
    Eggs seem the simplest of foods, right? Why would someone write a book with over 800 egg recipes? We both have this book: "Too Many Eggs", and it has blown our minds with its plethora of recipes, practical tips and fascinating history.
    So we were very excited to talk to its author, Mimi Smith Dvorak. In this episode, she shares with us the story of this book. We talk about the crazy lengths she went to when researching and some of our favourite recipes in it. We also talk about the practicalities of eggs, with some really helpful tips on how to work with them including a deep dive into mayonnaise, with her expert tips from having made it over and over again. Along the way, we talk about sustainable food, her incredible historic cookbook collection and much more.
    This is a fun episode, and with the book that you can buy in hardback or download free as a PDF from toomanyeggs.com, you'll never look at eggs the same way again.
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    Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.
    Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains
    Read our Guide to Milling Your Own Flour
    Get all three of the podcast cookbooks
    Wear our beautiful, sustainable merchandise
    Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics
    Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course
    Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.
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    Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!
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    The personal views and opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect our own personal views or opinions. We recognize that our guests are whole persons and this may include views we or our audience actively disagree with; our guests are invited to the show because we feel they have something valuable to share with us all, and we do not ask them to censor their personal views on air. Our sharing of their work is not necessarily an endorsement of their personal views.
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    If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:
    Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your library
    Scroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening

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    Resources:
    Get a copy of "Too Many Eggs" from Mimi's website. You can buy a hardback there, or you can download a PDF copy for free.
    You can also, in the US, buy "Too Many Eggs" from our Amazon-free online bookstore. In doing so, you'll be supporting the podcast.
    Do you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to share
    The podcast has a website here!
    Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancestral Kitchen
    The podcast is on You Tube here
    The podcast is mixed and the music created by Alison's husband, Rob. Find him here: Robert Michael Kay
  • Ancestral Kitchen

    #134 - Freezer Meals: Ancestral Foods for busy days, post-partum, and make-ahead food prepping

    2026-06-15 | 1h 23 mins.
    Whether it's anticipating busy days between work and school, heavy project days writing or working in the garden or canning, postpartum or surgery recovery period - there are many reasons why having a stocked freezer supplied with ready to go meals and ingredients is an enormous benefit to living an ancestral, locavore style life. For many reasons - financial, ingredient concerns, sourcing concerns, access - many of us are not able to rely on the fallback of quick easy prepared foods from a grocery store or restaurants, and many of us don't have a village around us that can supply emergency meals in time of need, much less meals that would comply with our sometimes complicated or weird dietary requirements.
    Building the routine of freezer stacking has been invaluable for our family, and in this episode I hope to share some of the ideas, meals and ingredients that have been helpful for us. Of course I thought of many more as soon as we finished recording, but there is plenty here to work with!
    There is a bonus download for this episode available to all listeners, where we included recipe links for many of the foods we are going to discuss. If you are in our supporter community, we look forward to hearing your freezer ideas and contributions in our discussion boards on Discord. Let’s get the ideas flowing and keep those freezers stocked!
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    Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.
    Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains
    Read our Guide to Milling Your Own Flour
    Get all three of the podcast cookbooks
    Wear our beautiful, sustainable merchandise
    Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics
    Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course
    Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.
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    Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!
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    What we talked about:
    Leah's business, which relies on freezers!
    The free bonus download for this episode
    Why and when freezer meals can play an important role
    Ideas to consider when planning your freezer meals
    All-in-one prepared meals and casseroles
    Sidekicks, or parts of meals that can be paired with more
    Prepped ingredients, meant to be use in a dish
    Containers and storage solutions

    The personal views and opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect our own personal views or opinions. We recognize that our guests are whole persons and this may include views we or our audience actively disagree with; our guests are invited to the show because we feel they have something valuable to share with us all, and we do not ask them to censor their personal views on air. Our sharing of their work is not necessarily an endorsement of their personal views.
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    If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:
    Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your library
    Scroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening

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    Resources:
    Ketchikan Sam’s podcast link or go to Ketchikan Sam’s and use code ANCESTRAL26
    For more recipe links and our working notes, check the download here
    Industrial Sharpie
    Non-Gummy Masking Tape (I use for everything in the kitchen)
    Souper Cubes
    Spaghetti Sauce
    Swedish Meatballs
    Enchiladas
    Mexican Lasagna (not Mexican, and not lasagna)
    The Pastured Pork Cookbook
    Meals at the Ancestral Hearth Cookbook
    Do you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to share
    The podcast has a website here!
    Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancestral Kitchen
    The podcast is on You Tube here
    The podcast is mixed and the music created by Alison's husband, Rob. Find him here: Robert Michael Kay
  • Ancestral Kitchen

    #133 - Home Milling Q & A

    2026-06-01 | 1h 23 mins.
    We get lots of questions from supporters and listeners about milling your own flour and thought it was about time we brought them all together a Q&A.
    This episode is packed with information:
    We start with troubleshooting bread made with freshly milled flour, including:
    why your bread might not be rising as much
    why you might have experienced your bread pancaking
    and why freshly milled flour breads need more water and how best to transition to that

    We then go on to talk about sifting, how to do it, and the nutritional effects.
    We talk about storing grain, whether we're personally concerned with the heat that grinding grains at home produces, and then how we store excess flour.
    We cover freshly milling gluten-free grains, including a deep dive into oats.
    And we talk about all the other things you can use your home mill for, and there are lots of them.
    Whether you have a mill or whether you're just thinking about getting a mill, this episode will bring you something new.
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    Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.
    Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains
    Read our Guide to Milling Your Own Flour
    Get all three of the podcast cookbooks
    Wear our beautiful, sustainable merchandise
    Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics
    Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course
    Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.
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    Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!
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    If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:
    Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your library
    Scroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening

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    Resources:
    Ancestral Kitchen Podcast Guide to Home Milling
    The Grain Flavour Wheel Project
    Alison’s article on making stone-ground oatmeal in the mockmill
    Mockmill Milling Guide
    Bread Lasagna
    Do you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to share
    The podcast has a website here!
    Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancestral Kitchen
    The podcast is on You Tube here
    The podcast is mixed and the music created by Alison's husband, Rob. Find him here: Robert Michael Kay
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About Ancestral Kitchen
The Ancestral Kitchen is a twice-monthly podcast hosted by Alison, a European town-dweller and Andrea, living on a family farm in northwest Washington state. Pull up a chair at the table and join us as we talk about eating, cooking and living with ancient ancestral food wisdom in a modern-world kitchen. Find us here: http://ancestralkitchenpodcast.com Podcast theme and audio production by Robert Michael Kay, find him at www.robertmichaelkay.com
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