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Dan Aberhart , Terry Aberhart
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  • Growing the Future

    Driving the Transition Train: The Acquisition

    2026-06-06 | 1h 2 mins.
    Tim Hammond opens with one frame: most buyers are reactive. The phone rings, the land is available, they start figuring out whether they can buy it. Tim's position is that question should have been answered two years before the call. The prepared buyer already has the number. The unprepared buyer watches somebody else close it.

    Wade walks the Four Ds from the buyer's seat -- Define (kitchen table, ambitions, logistics), Discover (compile, blueprint), Design (three options, pros/cons, recommendation), Deliver (execute). Tim notes the process is not linear; in practice they cycle back to Define as new information surfaces. The container for all of it is the war room: accountant, lender, lawyer, and real estate advisor in the same room at the same time. Poll 2 found zero percent of the audience had done this. Tim was not surprised.

    The second half opens the capital question. Wade is working a live deal where a seller with a $70M holding is willing to retain $30M to make the transaction possible for a buyer who cannot finance the full amount. Tim names the industry horizon: not enough capital exists in the system to transition all the farms that need to move in the next two to three decades, and creative structures -- tranches, seller retention, equity partnerships -- will become the standard, not the exception. Two topics flagged for future episodes: right of first refusal (common, well-intentioned, six-figure exit consequences if set up wrong) and the young farmer entry question (Joshua from Lethbridge, land at $20K-$30K per acre -- Tim's answer: start the conversation before you think you need to).

    KEY TOPICS

    - Poll 1: 55% said biggest barrier is structure (no entity or plan); 33% said finding land; 9% financing; 0% timing

    - Poll 2: 0% have a war room with all advisors at the table; 40% partially; 30% no; 10% did not know that was the move

    - Poll 3: 33% actively looking or in a deal; 8% positioned and waiting; 17% thinking about it; 25% harvest mode; 17% advisors here for the framework

    - Four Ds applied to the buyer: Define, Discover, Design, Deliver -- not linear, frequently cycles back to Define

    - The war room: accountant + lender + lawyer + real estate advisor in the same room at the same time

    - Most expensive mistake in 30 days: buying land that doesn't fit your operation (Wade: "You've just spent $500K to $1M on a quarter you shouldn't have bought, and now when the right one shows up, you might not be able to")

    - Seller retaining $30M on a $70M deal: creative structure enabling the deal to close for a buyer who can't finance the full amount

    - Capital supply gap: not enough capital in the system to transition all farms needing succession in the next 2-3 decades

    - Saskatchewan: average farmer owns 2/3 of the land they farm -- highest ratio in the world (US is 40%, Europe is 10-20%)

    - Cap rate gap: investors require 2.5-4%; farmers outbid investors because they capture both land return and operating return

    - Right of first refusal: flagged as common-but-misunderstood tool with major exit consequences -- future episode

    - Young farmers question: Joshua from Lethbridge, land at $20K-$30K per acre; Tim's answer: start the conversation before you think you need to

    CONNECT

    - Tim Hammond and Wade Berlinic: hammondrealty.ca

    - growingthefuture.ca

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  • Growing the Future

    An Operating System Built for You

    2026-06-04 | 56 mins.
    Dan opens in the water off Koh Lanta, Thailand. The science: a 133-foot tsunami wave registers as zero in deep water. Depth neutralizes force before it ever arrives. The wave only becomes a wave when the ocean floor rises to meet it. That is the operating principle for this session: the operators who get hurt in an AI-disrupted industry are not the ones who were too far away from the change. They are the ones who were too shallow when it arrived.

    Dan then goes personal. The company collapse. Ten years of revenue, one email in Thailand, zero in January. A leadership meeting where he broke down in front of his team. A vision board that had to be rebuilt around actual DNA rather than borrowed aspiration. Kolbe 7-2-9-2: Quick Start 9, Fact Finder 7 -- the profile that explains why he was always ahead of the room and always restless inside frameworks built for Follow-Thru operators. The session is a product launch, but the argument for the product is rooted in scar tissue, not pitch mechanics.

    The second half is live demos. Personal Operating Diagnostic: a multi-instrument synthesis agent that reads your personality assessments and outputs a build order for your first three AI agents, sequenced to how you actually work. Robert Andjelic GPT: asked where to buy farmland in Western Canada, it answered with the specificity of a researcher and the posture of a trusted advisor. Melissa the nutrition coach GPT. Then: a full website built in 35 minutes with Claude Code -- the same work that cost $5K and months with a contractor. Dan's own fleet of 50 agents, all running on a markdown brain. Agents include a completion system, a voice-lock drafting agent, and a decision brief agent. The demos are not proof of concept. They are the product, already running.

    The offer: GYFOS Cohort 1. $1,997 USD one-time. 90 days. 12-13 live sessions. 8-12 operators per cohort. 30-day money-back guarantee. $29/month continuation access after the cohort closes. The pitch is precise: this is not a course. It is a guided build. You leave with an operating system that reflects how you think, not a certificate that something was completed.

    KEY TOPICS

    - Wave physics as positioning strategy: depth not distance, get in the sweet spot before the ocean floor rises

    - Dan's company collapse and rebuild arc -- scar tissue behind the GYFOS product design

    - Kolbe 7-2-9-2 and core values (Integrity, Growth, Wisdom) as the foundation for AI agent design

    - Personal Operating Diagnostic -- multi-instrument personality synthesis, AI build order output

    - Live demo: Robert Andjelic farmland GPT, Melissa nutrition coach GPT, 35-minute website build with Claude Code

    - Fleet of 50 agents on a markdown brain (completion system, voice-lock drafting, decision brief)

    - Adoption context: 1.8% of Western Canadian agribusiness using AI; 19% of all businesses; 41% of workers

    - Historical wave pattern: horses to tractors, zero-till (called "trash farming"), internet (2.6M users 1990 to 2B by 2010)

    - Three takeaways: You are not late. Start with yourself, not the AI. Learn to orchestrate, not operate.

    - GYFOS Cohort 1 offer: $1,997 USD, 90 days, 8-12 operators, 30-day guarantee

     

    CONNECT

    - Dan Aberhart: growingthefuture.ca

    - GYFOS enrollment: growingthefuture.ca (GTF Mastermind)

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  • Growing the Future

    Too Big to Farm

    2026-06-02 | 1h 39 mins.
    Dan opened the session by noting that a billion-dollar Prairie farming operation had entered creditor protection -- and that nearly 40 farms were in or near distress that year. Robert Andjelic had received roughly 40 calls from farms across Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and elsewhere, all with a common thread: lenders were tightening, some operators could not access input credit, and they wanted to sell land and rent it back while keeping their equipment running and their family farming. Robert completed four of those transactions. He was direct about the others: they either did not fit his land criteria or could not be executed on terms that made sense. The session poll showed roughly half the room believed the current stress is both structural and cyclical -- a hard stretch exposing cracks that were already forming.

    Robert provided a compressed history of farm size in Canada, from 1925 when 10,000 acres was considered enormous, through the post-2000 acceleration driven by GPS auto-steer, massive air seeders, zero-till, low interest rates after 2008, normalized leasing, and aging operators. His conclusion: one modern operator now does what five to ten farm families previously required, and that trajectory will continue. Tim Hammond placed the hardest growth window at 2,500 to 6,000 acres -- the point where a family operation transitions from one set of implements to multiple, and from family labor to hired crews with all the human resource and financial management that demands. After 6,000, Tim argued, the next logical step is to think in enterprise pods -- another 6,000 acres, another labor module -- rather than organic farm growth. Robert's position: there is no correct size. He has tenants farming 1,000 acres who are as profitable as his 30,000-acre operators. His own loan-to-value sits below 24 percent because he built over 60 years when land was cheap. Cap rate on Prairie land purchased today: 1.5 to 3 percent, maybe 3.5 if the seller needs cash. He was blunt about marketing: "A lot of producers are very good at producing but they are shit poor in marketing," and that gap -- benchmarked by MNP at roughly $70 per acre -- is a large part of what separates farms that survive downturns from those that do not.

    The sharpest exchange of the session came when Dallas LeDuc joined. He is the fire chief of RM 44, a small rural municipality where Robert is likely the largest landowner. Dallas had recently stopped spraying to respond to a fire on land Robert owns. He argued that absentee landlords should pay a modestly higher property tax rate -- not punitive, maybe 10 to 15 percent higher -- to fund the fire trucks, training, and equipment that local volunteers maintain and use to protect land the landlords will never physically see. Robert's counter was structural: his tenants are local and respond to fires; making tax exceptions for agriculture creates red flags with institutional lenders; and the most important thing he does for Prairie producers is not visible -- it is the 12 to 13 years and more than $50,000 he has spent flying to Toronto to sit with bank decision-makers and explain to them that agricultural lending does not work like commercial real estate. His argument: when a lender in Toronto extends patience to a distressed farm instead of foreclosing, every producer in Western Canada benefits -- and no individual operator has the leverage to make that case to the head offices the way he can. Dallas was not persuaded. He closed with the line that his great-grandfather left France in 1904 to get away from doctors and lawyers owning the land, and he is afraid that is exactly where the Prairies are heading.

    Key Topics

    Farm credit stress in Western Canada 2026: nearly 40 farms in distress; Robert Andjelic received 40 calls from operators wanting to sell and rent back; completed 4 transactions

    Live session poll: roughly 50 percent of audience said the current crisis is both structural and cyclical

    History of farm scale in Canada: 1925 to today -- from 10,000 acres enormous to 50,000-plus now common

    What drove post-2000 farm growth: GPS auto-steer, massive air seeders, zero-till, post-2008 low interest rates, aging operators, normalized leasing

    Tim Hammond's growth framework: hardest growth is 2,500 to 6,000 acres; after 6,000, think in enterprise pods

    Robert Andjelic's cap rate reality: Prairie land bought today yields 1.5 to 3 percent; his own LTV is below 24 percent built over 60 years

    "A strategy is what you say no to" -- Tim Hammond on the discipline of farm scale decisions

    Marketing gap: roughly $70 per acre difference between producers who market well and those who do not (MNP benchmark referenced)

    Absentee landlord taxation debate: Dallas LeDuc (fire chief, RM 44) vs. Robert Andjelic -- rural community burden vs. capital market access argument

    Robert Andjelic's Toronto bank work: 12-13 years, $50,000+ in meetings, translating agriculture to commercial real estate lenders

    Kevin Hursh on retiring farmers: those who rail against big farms all their lives tend to sell to the biggest neighbour when retirement comes; breaking land into smaller parcels would give next-generation operators a chance

    Robert's macro thesis: higher commodity prices incoming due to Strait of Hormuz disruption, fertilizer supply constraints, and a potential super El Nino cycle

    Family farm vs. corporate model: Tim Hammond -- corporate farms must learn family commitment; family farms must learn corporate structure; the marriage of the two is the future

    Connect

    Kevin Hursh -- Western Producer columns; hursh.ca

    Robert Andjelic -- farmland.ca

    Dallas LeDuc -- Bunnyhug Farmers Podcast; TikTok

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  • Growing the Future

    Before You Spray: 3 Things That Could Cost You Money This Season

    2026-05-28 | 1h 2 mins.
    Tom Wolf opened with the frame that carried the session: doing the right thing at the right time. Take away the right time part and the right thing is irrelevant. Spraying has changed dramatically -- operators who used to make two passes a year now make three to five, and the equipment cost running at roughly $400 an hour means every minute away from spraying is measurable. The first section covered water quality, built around five numbers from a standard water test. Darren Sander opened with the operator's version of the lesson: Crop-Aid's farm pulls from a cold well at 1,200 TDS, so they tank it into black poly storage and spray from the warmest tank first. Cold water hurts efficacy -- especially glufosinate. Tom then walked through pH (most mixes fine; what matters is the final mix pH, not source pH), TDS and conductivity (under 500 is clean; most Prairie wells come in over 1,000; the number tells you whether to look further), bicarbonates (500 ppm is the threshold; above it, ammonium sulfate is the most versatile fix), total hardness (calcium carbonate equivalent; Jeff Bennett's water had very low hardness but elevated sodium, which still antagonizes glyphosate and glufosinate), and turbidity (aluminum sulfate as a flocculant for dugouts; stir and leave 24 to 48 hours). Jeff's live water test from Agvise became the worked example. Tom's verdict: low hardness, elevated sodium, ammonium sulfate recommended.

    The coverage section opened with a number that reframed the whole conversation: according to a Mesonet researcher in North Dakota, 100 percent of nights in the state experience thermal inversions. Some are worse than others, but the baseline is total. Under an inversion, fine droplets go where they want -- downhill if there is topography, anywhere if there is not. Tom's prescription: start on the downwind side of the field, spray perpendicular to the wind, turn into the headwind on every pass. Never spray down and then back against the wind. The droplet size discussion followed: coarser nozzles, deployed early in Canada before most countries, allowed operators to spray in slightly windier conditions without adding drift risk. Air induction tips are the go-to for general spraying. Spray pressure -- as low as 30 psi for AI tips -- adjusts droplet size one category in either direction. Water sensitive paper laid on the ground is the cheapest coverage check available. On water volume, Tom's position was direct: more is better. Complex tank mixes behave better with more water. More water allows coarser droplets without losing coverage. Later-season applications -- PGRs, fungicides, desiccants -- want 10 to 15 gallons per acre. Cutting back on water to improve logistics is a trade with a real cost.

    The logistics section brought Jay Peterson into the conversation. He runs a 1,600-gallon machine with a 120-foot boom and a dedicated water truck driver. His fill times on easy mixes: seven to nine minutes on three-inch plumbing. Complex mixes with dry products that need to hydrate: 15 minutes. Tom confirmed those numbers are right. The tendering revolution changed spraying fundamentally: a 30-minute fill is now a five-minute fill, which means filling is the stressful moment and spraying is the calm one. Continuous rinsing systems collapsed a three-quarter-hour triple rinse down to five minutes. Tom's recommended exercise: when the sprayer engine is running, write down what you're doing if you're not spraying. Data entry, monitor troubleshooting, looking for a menu -- every one of those is a round you did not spray. The session closed on the same line it opened with: an important job is worth doing well.

    Key Topics

    The five water quality numbers: pH (final mix matters more than source), TDS/conductivity (500 clean threshold), bicarbonates (500 ppm action threshold), total hardness (calcium carbonate equivalent), turbidity (aluminum sulfate flocculant)

    Ammonium sulfate as the most versatile water conditioner -- binds hard water cations AND improves herbicide uptake

    Warm water and spray efficacy: glufosinate works significantly better with warm water; Darren Sander's black poly tank system

    Thermal inversions: 100% of nights in North Dakota are inverted; fine droplets go where they want under inversion

    Spray direction strategy: downwind start, perpendicular to wind, headwind turns on every pass

    Coarser nozzles and Canada's early adoption: air induction tips as the go-to for general spraying; pressure adjusts droplet size

    Water volume: why cutting back hurts complex tank mixes, coverage flexibility, and late-season applications

    Sprayer logistics and the tendering revolution: three-inch plumbing, five-minute fills, continuous rinsing systems

    Time accounting: write down what you're doing when the engine is running but you're not spraying

    Foam management: turn off agitator while filling; Halt defoamer for high-salt tank mixes

    Resources Mentioned

    Sprayers 101 -- sprayers101.com (Tom Wolf, Dr. Jason DeVos)

    Crop-Aid Nutrition -- cropaidnutrition.com (Darren Sander)

    Spray Water Cheat Sheet -- Tom Wolf / Crop-Aid co-branded, distributed to all registrants

    Agvise Labs -- water testing (Jeff Bennett's water test source)

    ALS Labs, Saskatoon -- water testing

    Saskatchewan Research Council (Innovation Place, Saskatoon) -- water testing

    Nozzle Ninja, Stettler AB -- nozzle parts, mail order (nozzleninja.com)

    Agri Auto, Saskatoon -- nozzle parts, expanded store north end

    Water sensitive paper -- available at Agri Auto Saskatoon and Nozzle Ninja

    Halt defoamer -- high-salt tank mix defoamer (Darren Sander recommendation)

    Aluminum sulfate -- dugout turbidity flocculant; source via municipalities or water treatment suppliers

    ClearTech -- aluminum sulfate supplier (mentioned by Mike Green in chat)

    Connect

    Sprayers 101 -- sprayers101.com (click Tom Wolf name at bottom of page)

    Crop-Aid Nutrition -- cropaidnutrition.com

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  • Growing the Future

    Who Has the Export Data?

    2026-05-27 | 1h 2 mins.
    Dan opens with a Call of Duty analogy that lands: you keep getting smoked because they can see you, but you cannot see them. That is the position of a Canadian canola or wheat farmer every time they price grain. The buyers on the other side of the trade know what has been sold, where it is going, when it ships, and what it cleared for. The farmer does not. In the United States, any large grain sale must be reported to the USDA within 24 hours, and the weekly export sales report has been publicly available since 1973 - a direct response to the Great Grain Robbery, when U.S. grain companies oversold and nearly emptied the country's supply. Canada never built the equivalent. The port load data that used to come out of Vancouver every Friday - commodity, volume, destination - disappeared when the Wheat Board ended. The room has less data than it had 20 years ago.

    Marlene Boersch, who has spent her career studying the architecture of how Canadian grain moves, presented findings from two commissioned reports. The 2021 "Data Requirements for Transparent Markets" study mapped what data growers would find useful and found near-zero timely information on the export side - Stats Canada data runs 2-3 months behind execution, 4-6 months behind the farm decision. The 2024 supply chain impact study tried to put a number on the silence. Using U.S. data as a simulation proxy, it found that a 5% improvement in data availability translates to a minimum of 5 cents per acre in wheat, and that export sale announcements in the U.S. improve basis by 6-14 cents per bushel for 1-3 weeks following publication. Across Canada's export volumes, the conservative estimate is $56.5 million per year in foregone farm income. Boersch emphasized these were the most conservative assumptions possible - one variable, one commodity window.

    John De Pape, who was trading from a Vancouver Cargill desk in 1984 and watched the market explode past $700 per ton because no one knew what anyone else had sold, made the structural argument plainly: this will not be solved by private industry because grain companies have grain company hats on. When he built pdqinfo.ca after the Wheat Board ended - a price transparency tool that aggregated posted bids from seven major grain companies - it required Jerry Ritz to explicitly threaten legislation before the companies cooperated. The current moment, with Bunge-Viterra merged and Grains Connect folded into P&H, makes the concentration problem worse, not better. De Pape also flagged target contracts specifically: when a farmer signs a good-till-cancel grain pricing order with one company, they are selling a call option without receiving a premium, while the buyer covers a hidden export position and no one in the market knows the trade happened. Short-duration GPOs only, or none at all.

    Key Topics

    The Canadian grain data gap: Stats Canada export data runs 2-3 months behind; USDA reports weekly and same-day on large sales

    Marlene Boersch's 2024 finding: minimum $56.5 million per year in foregone farm income from lack of export sales data

    The Great Grain Robbery (1972) and why the U.S. built export transparency - and Canada never did

    How grain company consolidation (Bunge-Viterra, Grains Connect-P&H) makes information asymmetry worse

    John De Pape on target contracts: selling a call option without getting paid for it

    Why private industry cannot solve this - PDQ/pdqinfo.ca as proof that legislation was required even for posted bid transparency

    My Grain Exchange (MGX): private platform building real actionable bid transparency, 75 traders, 15 trades in May 2026

    Saskatchewan Crop Commissions government relations push - Ottawa in-person meetings scheduled for the week of May 25, 2026

    Ryan Bonnett's call to action: grassroots farmer petition modeled on the Quebec dairy lobby

    Marlene Boersch's closing framework: start from the end goal (maximize Canadian ag exports and GDP), then build the system that gets there

    Resources Mentioned

    Marlene Boersch (2021): "Data Requirements for Transparent Markets" - commissioned by Saskatchewan Crop Commissions and APAS

    Marlene Boersch (2024): "Supply Chain Impact of Export Sales Data Transparency" - PDF shared with attendees

    pdqinfo.ca - John De Pape's posted bid price transparency tool, built post-Wheat Board with Alberta Grain Commission

    My Grain Exchange (mgx) - Luke Derkson's private real-bid grain trading platform

    saskoilseeds.com/export-sales-reporting - Saskatchewan Oilseed Producers export sales reporting resource (shared by Blair Goldade)

    Real Ag webinar on this topic (shared in chat by Andrea Lauder)

    Connect

    Ryan Bonnett: ABB Solutions

    Marlene Boersch: Mercantile Consulting Venture

    John De Pape: pdqinfo.ca

    Luke Derkson: My Grain Exchange (MGX)

    Blair Goldade: Saskatchewan Crop Commissions

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