TIP742: Invest like a Business Owner w/ David Fagan
In this episode, Stig Brodersen speaks with David Fagan, a successful entrepreneur and investor, about the powerful overlap between building businesses and investing in public markets. They explore why business owners often think differently about diversification, dividends, and risk—and how habits, friendships, and clarity of purpose shape long-term success in both business and life.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
05:35 – Why some business owners often become better investors through firsthand experience with risk, volatility, and capital allocation.
14:57 – The blind spots business owners have when they enter the world of investing.
23:09 – Why you might shift your attitude toward dividends after experiencing firsthand how brutal capitalism is.
28:30 – David shares the daily habits that help him stay grounded, including exercise, reading, and reflection.
35:49 – A different take on “you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with”—and the tradeoffs of seeking higher-caliber peers.
37:51 – Why financial independence raises deeper questions about purpose, relationships, and long-term alignment in life and work.
59:06 – When (and how) to go into business with friends: lessons from real stories about incentives, equity splits, and mutual expectations.
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
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TIP741: The Intrinsic Value of Uber & Reddit w/ Shawn O'Malley
On today's episode, Clay is joined by Shawn O'Malley to discuss his work on The Intrinsic Value Podcast and two key holdings from The Intrinsic Value Portfolio.
Shawn recently launched The Intrinsic Value Podcast alongside co-host Daniel Mahncke, where they conduct weekly deep dives into companies while building their own concentrated portfolio of 20 holdings.
In this conversation, they explore Reddit's transformation from an unprofitable tech IPO to a rapidly growing, cash flow positive business, and examine Uber's dominant market position and diversified revenue streams.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
02:01 - Shawn's process for conducting weekly company deep dives on The Intrinsic Value Podcast.
16:14 - How Reddit transformed from an unprofitable IPO to a rapidly growing cash flow positive business.
29:27 - How Reddit’s user base presents unique challenges for its advertising business.
44:11 - Why Bill Ackman invested $2 billion in Uber’s stock.
52:29 - Why Uber is well-positioned to benefit from the trend to autonomous vehicles.
01:00:57 - An overview of Uber’s billion-dollar advertising business.
01:05:18 - Shawn’s intrinsic value target price for Uber.
And so much more!
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
Join Clay and a select group of passionate value investors for a retreat in Big Sky, Montana. Learn more here.
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Related Episode: TIVP014: Reddit (RDDT): Valuing the Front Page of the Internet Shawn O’Malley & Daniel Mahnke.
Related Episode: TIVP016: Uber (UBER): Cash Burner to Compounder? Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahnke.
Follow Clay on LinkedIn & X.
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BTC245: The Next Metaplanet? (Smarter Web Company) w/ Jesse Myers and Andrew Webley
Andrew and Jesse join Preston to discuss Smarter Web’s transformation into a major Bitcoin Treasury firm, UK market dynamics, valuation strategies, and future growth plans, including preferred shares.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
14:02 - What is MNAV and why is it a crucial metric for valuing Bitcoin Treasury firms?
35:20 - How does Smarter Web plan to maintain its lead in the UK Bitcoin market amid rising competition?
49:52 - What are the benefits and risks of investing in a Bitcoin Treasury company versus Bitcoin directly?
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
Slides presented (Part 1).
Slides presented (Part 2).
Smarter Web Company's Website.
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Jesse's X Account.
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TIP740: The Great Mental Models Part 1
On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve discusses the power of mental models, how they sharpen our thinking, and how they improve our decision-making in investing and everyday life. He explores various key concepts in general thinking, including the circle of competence, inversion, first-principles thinking, probabilistic thinking, and more.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
02:01 - What exactly are mental models?
04:37 - The three failures people have with interacting with reality.
08:43 - A simple 6-step framework for making mentals into a habit.
17:45 - How to utilize what you already know to gain an edge.
29:40 - The importance of thinking in first principles to improve your ability to innovate and simplify.
36:10 - How to use thought experiments to analyze a business.
41:14 - Why using second-order thinking can rapidly enhance your quality of thinking.
49:46 - How probabilistic thinking helps make sense of a dynamic world.
58:54 - Why spending time thinking about a problem backwards can improve your upside.
01:04:57 - Why you should focus on simple solutions over complex ones.
And so much more!
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
Join Clay and a select group of passionate value investors for a retreat in Big Sky, Montana. Learn more here.
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Buy a copy of The Great Mental Models Vol. 1 here.
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TIP739: The Psychology Of Human Misjudgement
On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve discusses Charlie Munger’s legendary speech, The Psychology of Human Misjudgment, and unpacks all 25 of his cognitive biases that often lead even the most intelligent people to make poor decisions. Drawing from Poor Charlie’s Almanack, Kyle explores how these psychological tendencies—like incentive-caused bias, social proof, and inconsistency avoidance—can distort our thinking in business, investing, and everyday life. He blends Munger’s timeless wisdom with real-world investing examples, personal experiences, and practical strategies to help listeners make better, more rational decisions.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
03:02 - Why incentives quietly override moral behavior.
06:32 - Why liking and disliking an investing thesis can distort reality.
09:54 - Why doubt avoidance cause investors to take significant risks in things like IPOs.
12:07 - How inconsistency avoidance causes a lazy creep into our thinking processes.
24:38 - How to avoid the destructive effects of reciprocation.
32:49 - The dangers of overestimating our abilities.
37:44 - Why jumping off a sinking ship beats trying to patch it up.
45:58 - Why contrasting stock prices in exuberant markets evaporates margins of safety.
59:41 - Why investors should choose simplicity > complexity.
01:01:43 - Why you should search for Lollapalooza effects in business.
And so much more!
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
BOOKS AND RESOURCES
Join Clay and a select group of passionate value investors for a retreat in Big Sky, Montana. Learn more here.
Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members.
Buy a copy of Poor Charlie’s Almanack here.
Read about Charlie’s Psychology of Human Misjudgement here.
Watch Charlie’s presentation on The Psychology of Human Misjudgement here.
Follow Kyle on X and LinkedIn.
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Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here.
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