Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

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Check out Jay Schwedelson's new book: Stupider People Have Done It
All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206
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Ask ChatGPT the same question on Tuesday and again on Friday and you will probably get two different answers, with two different sets of sources. That is the uncomfortable finding Jay Schwedelson digs into here, using fresh data on how violently AI citations churn from one day to the next, plus the weekly routine that keeps your brand tracking honest instead of comforting. There is also a Mountain Dew body wash situation that nobody was prepared for.
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Best Moments:
(00:31) Why 69% of AI sources shift from one day to the next
(01:02) Reddit's share of ChatGPT citations collapsed 86% in about a month
(02:54) Half of everything AI engines cite is less than thirteen weeks old
(03:45) Pick the 10 questions that actually influence someone buying from you
(04:04) The incognito browser step most people skip, and why it ruins the data
(05:22) The two prompt lines that stop AI from flattering your brand
(06:27) Mountain Dew body wash at Walmart, and the obvious follow-up question

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Check out Jay Schwedelson's new book: Stupider People Have Done It
All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206
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Connect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/
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Turns out the emails winning in an AI-summarized inbox are the ugly ones. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray pick up the live text conversation from last week with fresh data on what Gmail, Apple Mail, and Copilot are actually pulling out of your sends, and the fix involves bullet points and a formula that fits in two hundred characters. There is also a genuine moral crisis about cheating on your barber, which somehow sets the tone for everything after it.
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Best Moments:
(00:38) The haircut dilemma, and whether you can book with another stylist without earning the death stare
(03:45) AI summaries pull 29 words on average, so the first 150 to 200 characters carry the whole email
(04:15) Action plus product plus deadline, the formula lifting click-through rates around 19 percent
(06:13) Bullets are ugly and they work, with pull rates of 77 percent in Gmail, 84 in Apple Mail, 92 in Copilot
(07:29) Why vague, spammy headlines fall apart once a summary has to describe themㅤ
(08:19) Over 70% of people say they are fine with AI reading their inbox to surface deals

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contact
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Check out Jay Schwedelson's new book: Stupider People Have Done It
All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206
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Connect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/
Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson
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Listen to Tracy's podcast, Create Online Business Success, which features her episode with Jay from about a year ago. Visit tracybeavers.com to reach her through the contact button and browse her free marketing resources. Follow Tracy Beavers on LinkedIn.
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Nearly 700 episodes in and business coaching had somehow never come up, which is strange given how many people started calling themselves one around 2020. Tracy Beavers has actually been doing it at an elite level for two decades, and she gets refreshingly blunt with Jay Schwedelson about real price tags, the bad actors taking $50,000 for nothing, and the one sentence that should make you walk away from a sales call immediately. Also settled here: Romance, Arkansas is a real place, and brides drive there just for the postmark.
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Best Moments:
(03:15) Everyone at the top of their game has a coach, athletes and Warren Buffett included
(04:43) Two signs it is time to hire someone, and one of them is how you talk to yourself
(06:09) Where business coaching stops and actual therapy needs to start
(09:02) How to properly vet a coach before you hand over a single dollar
(11:58) Real numbers on what an engagement costs, and why the range is the Wild Wild West
(13:16) Why the access you get between calls matters more than the calls themselves

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contact
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Check out Jay Schwedelson's new book: Stupider People Have Done It
All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206
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Subscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletter
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Connect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/
Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson
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Recording from the road because the week refused to cooperate, Jay Schwedelson gets into why OpenAI's new Astra model is not the upgrade most marketers think it is - it won't write you better copy, but it will take the repetitive junk off your plate. There's also a date on the calendar that quietly changes what your content should be about for the rest of the year, and most teams are going to miss it. Then things go completely sideways into a documentary trailer and a televised double date that genuinely should not exist.
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Best Moments:
(00:38) What Astra actually is, and why better images and better copy are the wrong thing to expect
(01:45) The kind of prompt that sends the model on a real competitive research mission instead of a lookup
(02:30) The repetitive task hiding in every marketing org that should be first in line
(03:16) Why September 15th flips what people are actually willing to download
(04:20) The consumer-side play that goes past Black Friday and Cyber Monday
(05:17) A documentary trailer so bizarre it hijacked the back half of the episode

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contact
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Check out Jay Schwedelson's new book: Stupider People Have Done It
All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206
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Subscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletter
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Connect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/
Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson
Check out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/
Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/ask
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Follow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.
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Your prettiest email might be the thing quietly costing you opens. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray dig into AI summaries, the feature already rewriting preheaders inside Gmail, Apple Mail, and Copilot, and why the first 150 characters of your send now matter more than the design around them. There's also a detour into Burning Man, five straight years of Coachella, and Daniel's firm position on tents.
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Best Moments:
(02:02) Daniel explains what live text actually is and why AI put it everywhere
(02:49) The one email thing Jay says will matter most over the next twelve months
(03:22) Copilot hits thirty million paid users and why that changes B2B email
(03:59) What counts as live text, and why your JPEG and your alt text do not
(05:24) Half your preheaders will not be your preheaders within six months
(06:48) The prettiest email stops winning and email structure rewinds fifteen years