Hearts & Daggers

• Ep. 87: Nigeria (The Sweetest Remedy + Gaslight)

  Summary: E Káàró, friends! Today, Holly and Devin armchair travel to Nigeria. Known for its vibrant culture, diversity, rich artistic heritage and a thriving film industry (Nollywood), this country has so much to explore. With both books set in the bustling city of Lagos, our hosts get to explore the romantic and thrilling aspects of this amazing country.  Topics Discussed: The Heart (3:00): Devin discussed The Sweetest Remedy by Jane Igharo, a novel following Hannah Bailey, successful biracial business woman living in San Francisco, who is invited to her estranged father’s funeral - in Lagos, Nigeria. After a brief relationship with her white mother, she never had a connection to her father or his prestigious family, but this opportunity is too good to pass up. Uncovering half siblings, secrets, culture and even a man she never expected, Hannah must come to a new understanding of who she is and where she fits in the world. Devin’s key takeaways were: Hannah's experience reflects that of many diaspora children, caught between cultures, feeling not quite “enough” of either. Her journey is tender, frustrating, funny, and deeply affirming and she works to expand her sense of self and identify where she belongs amongst her expanded family.  While you get a great sense of Lagos through the book, the setting of a Nigerian funeral, especially for someone as prominent as Hannah’s father, adds an extra layer of authenticity to the story. They’re multi-day affairs that are part mourning, part celebration, part family reunion, part “airing of grievances.” Through this event, the book explores Nigerian culture, familial expectations, inheritance (emotional and literal), and reconciliation. The romance is beautifully folded into Hannah’s emotional journey. It’s not just “hot guy in Nigeria,” Lawrence is a patient and supportive friend first who guides Hannah and helps her navigate the rough waters of her expanding identity. It’s romantic, yes, but also rooted in identity and growth. The Dagger (13:50): Holly discussed Gaslight by Femi Kayode, a crime fiction story following Jeremiah Dawodu, the influential leader of a prominent megachurch in Lagos. He’s publicly arrested in the middle of a service for the suspected murder of his wife. Despite his skepticism toward organized religion, Philip Taiwo, an investigative psychologist who recently returned to Nigeria from the US, is reluctantly drawn into the case by his sister. Confronting a web of secrets, resistance from the church, and the complexities of Nigerian society, Philip must cut through the noise to uncover the truth. Holly’s key takeaways were: The novel examines how religious institutions wield influence and the potential for corruption within such structures.​ The pursuit of truth in a society and institution rife with secrecy and manipulation underscores the narrative, questioning the nature of justice and the power of religion and religious leaders.​ Through the lens of a psychological crime thriller, the novel illuminates both the beauty and contradictions of Nigerian society; it critiques power structures while celebrating resilience, explores how people navigate moral gray zones, and invites readers to see Nigeria in all its complexity: vibrant, chaotic, spiritual, flawed, and deeply human. Taiwo's family's experiences reflect the complexities of cultural identity and the challenges of reintegration after living abroad.​ The personal struggles within Taiwo's family parallel the broader societal issues, emphasizing the interplay between personal and communal conflicts.​ Hot On the Shelf (27:12): Devin: A Marvellous Light by Freya Marske Holly: The Devils by Joe Abercrombie What’s Making Our Hearts Race (31:39): Devin: The Americas Documentary with Tom Hanks Holly: Your Friends and Neighbors on AppleTV Instagram: @heartsanddaggerspod Website: www.heartsanddaggerspod.com If you like what you hear, please tell your friends and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so that we can find our perfect audience.

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• Ep. 86: Apartment Buildings (Lock Every Door + Lease on Love)

  Summary: Make sure you keep the volume on this episode down so as not to disturb your neighbors! Today, Holly and Devin dive into the wonderful world of apartment buildings. They discuss how stacking people like blocks in a single building can facilitate both a lust for blood as well as good old fashioned lust. Whether you’ve always lived in a single family home and have only seen apartments in shows like Friends or you’re listening to this from an apartment right now, our hosts have got what you need to explore this living situation!  Topics Discussed: The Dagger (5:31): Holly discussed Lock Every Door by Riley Sager, a thriller following Jules Larsen - a recently unemployed, heartbroken 25-year-old in desperate need of monday. When offered, she jumps at a high-paying job to apartment-sit at The Bartholomew, an exclusive, elite Gothic-style Manhattan apartment building. The rules of her stay are strange, but Jules shakes it off…until a fellow apartment sitter, Ingrid, disappears. Holly’s key takeaways were: The Bartholomew is inspired by real-life historic buildings in NYC. Its creepy, opulent design creates a claustrophobic atmosphere that mirrors traditional haunted house stories while the brooding atmosphere, secretive residents, and eerie silence create a modern gothic mood that amplifies the creepiness of the plot. Jules is uncertain whom to trust, and her increasing paranoia drives much of the suspense, keeping readers questioning what’s real and who’s dangerous. The story follows her as she navigates fear, gaslighting, and manipulation - ultimately reclaiming power through courage and tenacity. With the desperate and financially strapped Jules staying in an apartment building designed for the wealthy elite, the novel explores how financial insecurity can make people vulnerable to exploitation—highlighting the stark contrast between the wealthy and the desperate. The Heart (15:26): Devin discussed Lease on Love by Falon Ballard, a romance following Sadie Green - a sharp, ambitious woman who has just thrown her finance career out the window with a single outburst. With her career thrown in a blender and her housing situation dire, she drinks away her sorrows and browses roommate listings which lands her an appointment for what she thinks is a spare bedroom. She meets Jack Thomas who offers her the entire first floor of his spacious and beautiful Brooklyn Brownstone for a fraction of what he could charge. From there, Sadie and Jack both work on rebuilding - both themselves and their lives. Devin’s key takeaways were: The apartment—this big, cozy Brooklyn brownstone—is practically a third main character. It becomes a safe haven for both Sadie and Jack. It’s not just a setting, but the space that allows them to let their guards down and build something real. Both Sadie and Jack are at emotional crossroads, and their relationship becomes a soft space to land. The story leans into themes of trust, grief, and rediscovering purpose—not just in love or their respective careers but in self-worth and their personhood. Beyond the romance, Lease on Love is a celebration of strong friendships and emotional community as people navigate the rough waters of their 20s. Sadie’s friend group and Jack’s quiet generosity show that love can be a team sport and vulnerability and collaboration pave the way to happiness. Hot On the Shelf (33:35): Devin: Just Playing House by Farah Heron Holly: Death of the Author by Nnedi Okorafor What’s Making Our Hearts Race (37:33): Devin: A new candle warmer!  Holly: Love on the Spectrum Season 3   Instagram: @heartsanddaggerspod Website: www.heartsanddaggerspod.com   If you like what you hear, please tell your friends and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so that we can find our perfect audience.

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• Ep. 85: The Wild West (Lucky Red + Lone Women)

  Summary: Howdy, partner! Saddle up today and join Holly and Devin as they explore the Wild West - the region of the United States west of the Mississippi River between the 1830s and the early 1900s. Whether you’re looking for love or a spooky thrill, books set in the Wild West are more violent, raw, and connected to the dangers of the wide open plains. Stark and vivid, these stories strip life down to the most basic aspects of human nature and explore what we’ll do to survive.  Topics Discussed: The Heart (5:09): Devin discussed Lucky Red by Claudia Cravens, a western sapphic romance following Bridget as she travels through the Kansas prairie with her alcoholic father. After he dies from a rattlesnake bite, Bridget makes it to Dodge City and is soon recruited to work at the Buffalo Queen - the only brothel in town run by women. Bridget takes well to brothel life and forms deep friendships with her fellow “sporting women”. When Spartan Lee, a legendary female gunfighter, comes to town, though, the life she’s built is threatened and Bridget must decide who and what she’ll fight for. Devin’s key takeaways were: This book embodied the chaos and tenuousness of this era of the Western United States. Craven imbues her writing with an anger and sharpness that matches well with the violence of the weather and people trying to survive in what had just recently been wilderness. While most of the book takes place inside the brothel, we get a picture of the society by the men who sit at the bar and spend time with the women.  While this book can definitely be called a romance, there’s an undercurrent of danger and discomfort such that it was difficult to relax into and trust. The writing was impeccably done but what propelled the story was less the queer love Bridget feels and explores with women but the found family and platonic love she feels for her peers at the Buffalo Queen.  Craven explores, through Bridget, the dynamic between men in power and women whose only power could be found in whoring. There is a pride implied through the book for these women and the reader gets to see their strength and cunning in action; even in Spartan there is a claiming and staking of power by force. The men, though, claim nothing and by simply being in a room or not being in a room can determine the fates of each woman we come to care about.  The Dagger (18:01): Holly discussed Lone Women by Victor Lavalle, a historical horror book set in 1915 following Adelaide Henry, a young Black woman living in California. Having set her home ablaze with her dead parents inside, Adelaide moves to Montana with only a steamer trunk containing a dangerous secret. Once there, she claims a homestead under the promise that if she can farm the land for three years, it will be hers. Met with a harsh landscape, xenophobia and patriarchal pressures, and the burden of her past, Adelaide befriends other outcast women and hopes the horrifying truth doesn’t come out. Holly’s key takeaways were: The novel challenges the traditional, whitewashed narrative of the American frontier. Instead of the rugged, heroic white men often depicted in Westerns, Lone Women focuses on the marginalized figures—women, people of color, and outsiders—who also played a crucial role in shaping the West. The novel highlights the loneliness and struggles of female homesteaders, who had to survive in a harsh environment without the privileges that white male settlers had. Despite her initial isolation, Adelaide finds support in unexpected places, demonstrating the importance of chosen family in times of hardship. She bonds with Grace, a struggling single mother, and Bertie, who both offer her friendship and protection. The idea of survival is not just about enduring physical hardship—it’s about finding allies and building a life on one’s own terms.  The supernatural elements in Lone Women serve as metaphors for historical and societal horrors. The monster in Adelaide’s trunk embodies both her own trauma and the fear of what happens when buried secrets come to light. The desolation of the Montana frontier, with its harsh winters and isolation, enhances the eerie atmosphere, making it a place where both natural and supernatural dangers lurk. Hot On the Shelf (32:37): Devin: The Pairing by Casey McQuinston Holly: The Hero of Ages by Brandon Sanderson What’s Making Our Hearts Race (36:33): Devin: Superstore show on Peacock Holly: Severance season 2 on AppleTV    Instagram: @heartsanddaggerspod Website: www.heartsanddaggerspod.com   If you like what you hear, please tell your friends and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so that we can find our perfect audience.

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• Ep. 84: Theme Parks (FantasticLand + Hot Dog Girl)

  Summary: Hm, is that sound of screaming from the joy of a roller coaster or a stabbing? Today our hosts discuss books set in Theme Parks! Whether like Holly you’re more drawn to the magic and experience of places like DisneyLand or you’re like Devin chasing adrenaline on some of the fastest and most intense roller coasters on earth, there are books that can give you the thrill you’re looking for.  Topics Discussed: The Dagger (6:53): Holly discussed FantasticLand by Mike Bockoven, a horror book reminiscent of an adult Lord of the Flies. After a hurricane ravages the Florida coast and isolates FantasticLand, a theme park where “Fun is Guaranteed!,” employees agree to stay behind to make sure the park isn’t looted and are promised to be paid to do so. Five weeks later, rescue crews arrive to find heads on spikes, bodies lined up, and employees split into warring factions. Holly’s key takeaways were: The story fills in the gaps between the hurricane and what the rescue crews discovered through various POVs; a journalist interviews various people involved after the fact. Since the story is told through multiple interviews, readers must decide which accounts to believe, as survivors may be unreliable or have their own agendas. The novel highlights how quickly social norms break down when survival is at stake. Cut off from the outside world, the employees turn to tribalism, reinforcing the idea that without structure, humans can revert to their most primal instincts.  The theme park itself provided a unique structure and setting for such an intense plot; the factions of employees were named after the rides near them such as the Pirates, the ShopGirls as they resort to violence while competing for food, medicine, and social dominance in what had been a whimsical space.  The Heart (19:48): Devin discussed Hot Dog Girl by Jennifer Dugan, a YA romance following Elouise (Lou) Parker and her group of friends at their summer jobs at Magic Castle Playland, a run-down local theme park in their town. Lou suffers her junior year summer wearing a giant hot dog suit around the park, while her love interest Nick gets to be a Diving Pirate dating Jessa, a princess. The news that the park will be shutting down at the end of the summer, Lou takes matters into her own hands to ensure that she has the summer of her dreams - from saving the park to fake-dating her best friend, Seeley, so she can ultimately win her man. Devin’s key takeaways were:  Magic Castle Playland is like any local, run down park that you’ve ever been to and it’s nostalgic in the way it is so typical. A large portion of the plot is dedicated to Lou’s increasingly desperate attempts to keep the park from closing and the park itself acts as a mirror and a foil for her own immaturity and growth.   The fake dating between Lou and Seeley in order to break another couple up was a challenging part of the story, especially when it’s a bi woman doing it with a lesbian to win a cis het man. There’s a stereotype of bi women (and men, but mostly women): they lead people on, they’re greedy, they can’t make up their minds, and this book fed into that stereotype.  The “young adult” aspect of this book really shone through. Nick and Seeley were mature, kind, and measured throughout but everyone else was very in their teenage years. Getting the story from Lou’s perspective was at times agonizing; a blend of being so accurate to a dumb teenager's brain and Lou’s own meddling and dramatic rhetoric.  Hot On the Shelf (36:51): Holly: Wild Dark Shore by Charlotte McConaghy Devin: I Think They Love You by Julian Winters What’s Making Our Hearts Race (40:22): Holly: Holly’s Literary Magic Substack Devin: Mythic Quest on AppleTV   Instagram: @heartsanddaggerspod Website: www.heartsanddaggerspod.com   If you like what you hear, please tell your friends and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so that we can find our perfect audience.

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• Ep. 83: Ireland (Last Call at the Local + Strange Sally Diamond)

  Summary: Grab a pint and cozy up with us to talk all things Ireland on today’s episode! Whether you have Irish blood in your family like Holly or have never visited the country like Devin, the unique and salt-of-the-earth culture of this small island country has captured the hearts and imaginations of authors in every genre. With gray skies and warm, well-lit pubs creating contrast, this country is the ideal intersection between our hosts’ wheelhouses.  Topics Discussed: The Heart (3:30): Devin discussed Last Call at the Local by Sarah Grunder Ruiz, a romance following free-spirited American singer-songwriter Rain Hart. Originally from Boston, some bad luck leaves her unable to perform and stranded in a small Irish town. Seeking solace at a pub called The Local, Raine insults and intrigues Jack Dunne, the pub’s owner. After asking her to help bring the rundown watering hole back to life, Raine and Jack must confront their growing attraction and their opposite lifestyles. Devin’s key takeaways were: The quintessential setting of an Irish pub serves to accentuate Raine’s place as a stranger at first, but also the unique warmth and community found across Ireland that so many are drawn to. Jack’s ownership of the pub comes with baggage, but in collaboration with the red-headed American he starts to see how The Local can transcend his trauma.  Ruiz touches on neurodivergence and mental health conditions with grace and empathy. Raine manages her ADHD as best she can while enjoying her nomadic lifestyle, and Jack balances his OCD and his business. The way their situations influence how their relationship evolves is one of the deeper and more fulfilling aspects of the story. Another hallmark of stories centered on Ireland, this book is full of deep community. The side characters are rich and heavily involved, and The Local itself increasingly becomes the center of the small town’s universe.  The Dagger (11:34): Holly discussed Strange Sally Diamond by Liz Nugent, a crime fiction story following Sally Diamond, a socially isolated woman living in rural Ireland. When she takes her father’s directive of “when I die just put him out with the bins” literally, she draws unwanted attention to herself including police, a media frenzy, and the unearthing of long-buried secrets about her past. Sally must piece together horrifying truths and navigate an unknown figure from her past and how to integrate into a society that sees her as an outsider. Holly’s key takeaways were: Sally's early childhood affected her development into an adult and left her emotionally detached, and the novel explores how deep-seated trauma manifests in behavior. She struggles with demonstrating emotions and understanding social cues. Her adopted father sheltered her as much as possible, so she’s never had a job, a romantic relationship, or even a friend. Sally’s inner thoughts are super funny and this brought lightness to a very otherwise dark book. Her perspective is in some ways beautiful and hopeful amidst the dark themes and her treatment as an outsider forces readers to consider how society perceives neurodivergence or unusual behavior. Nugent doesn’t present Ireland as a stereotypical location or even sets out to convey a strong sense of literal place, but the writing feels strongly irish in its tone; dark, doesn’t pull punches, but on sentence level well written and enriched with detail and humor.  Hot On the Shelf (27:29): Devin: The 7-10 Split by Karmen Lee Holly: The Dream Hotel by Laila Lailami What’s Making Our Hearts Race (31:39): Devin: SNL 50: Beyond Saturday Night Holly: Rewatching the TV show Lost   Instagram: @heartsanddaggerspod Website: www.heartsanddaggerspod.com   If you like what you hear, please tell your friends and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so that we can find our perfect audience.

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