BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

• The Overlooked “Upside” That Will Make Future Landlords Rich

  Your rental properties are about to make even more money. There’s one often overlooked real estate investing “upside” that, over time, makes rental property investors and landlords rich without any extra effort. This is one upside that Dave is exceptionally bullish on and is one of the most compelling cases for rental property investing. It’s not home price growth, it’s not tax benefits, and it’s not zoning changes—it’s simple: rent price growth. Rent has steadily grown throughout the history of the housing market and shot up at an extreme pace during 2020 - 2022. Now, the pendulum is swinging in the other direction as rents soften and tons of supply hit the market. But how far are we from going back to the days of solid rent growth? And with the new housing supply already starting to be absorbed, could we get to above-average rent growth again? We brought Chris Salviati from Apartment List on the show to share his team’s rent research.  Over time, your rental income will rise significantly while your mortgage payment stays the same, boosting your profits. So, where are rents poised to grow the most? Will we ever experience 2021-level rent growth again? And will 2025 be the year strong nationwide rent growth returns? We’re breaking it all down today so you know exactly where rents are headed next! In This Episode We Cover: Why “rent growth” is one of the most underrated “upsides” of real estate investing The 2020-2022 rent price explosion explained and why rents skyrocketed  What has been keeping rent growth suppressed for the past few years  Markets with rent declines that could quickly reverse (significant buying opportunities) The property classes (A/B/C/D) experiencing the most rental demand (it’s NOT the nicest ones!) Multifamily vs. single-family rent trends and whether new apartments drive down home rent prices  And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Ask Your Question on the BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets YouTube Apply to Be a BiggerPockets Podcast Guest! Apartment List Research Join the Future of Real Estate Investing with Fundrise Grab Dave’s Book, “Real Estate by the Numbers” Sign Up for the BiggerPocket Real Estate Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area Rent Prices Are “Guaranteed” to Increase Over the Next Two Years—Here’s Why Grab The Apartment List Research Or Email [email protected] Connect with Dave   Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1092 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Will Mortgage Rates Fall Below 6%? Here’s What Could Trigger Low Rates

  Mortgage rates have hit a new low for 2025, hovering around 6.75%, down from their peak of 7.25%. This is serious interest rate relief for homebuyers, real estate investors, and anyone getting a mortgage. But will mortgage rates fall even further in 2025? A new article from HousingWire’s Logan Mohtashami suggests that even more rate relief could be on the way, but not without a series of caveats.  To give our take, we’re bringing you a bonus episode where Dave breaks down Logan’s argument, gives his opinion on the hypotheses, and reveals what would have to happen for rates to drop into the low sixes, maybe even into the five percent range! With bond yields ticking down and recession fears mounting, mortgage rates seem poised to improve compared to the past couple of years. Will we have to see economic pain before rates lower? Could rates go back up, even higher than before, if positive economic news emerges? Dave is breaking down both his own predictions and Logan’s in this bonus episode.  In This Episode We Cover: Today’s mortgage rates and why we’re hitting 2025 lows  Two factors that influence mortgage rates and where they both stand now  The bond yield “spread” and how its improvement could keep rates low  What has to happen for rates to fall even more, and why it’s not all good news Could mortgage rates get BELOW six percent in 2025? And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Ask Your Question on the BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets YouTube Apply to Be a BiggerPockets Podcast Guest! Do mortgage rates have room to drop lower? Invest in Any Market Cycle with “Recession-Proof Real Estate Investing” Sign Up for the BiggerPocket Real Estate Newsletter Find Investor-Friendly Lenders Mortgage Rates Hit 2025 Low as Recession Fears Rise Read Logan’s Article, “Do mortgage rates have room to drop lower?” Connect with Dave   (00:00) Intro (02:05) Why Mortgage Rates Are Falling (03:18) Will Mortgage Rates Fall Further? (05:49) What This Means for Investors (07:02) The Mortgage-Bond "Spread" (10:18) What Will Cause Lower Rates Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-bonus Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• BRRRR for Beginners: How to Build Massive Wealth with This “Dead” Strategy

  The BRRRR strategy is arguably the fastest way to build wealth with real estate. Just ask Leka Devatha, a Seattle-based investor. She’s got ONE BRRRR property this year that could make her $600,000 in profit. And that’s ONE home, not an apartment complex. So what is the BRRRR strategy, and why do so many investors write it off instead of trying it in 2025? Are they missing out? Absolutely! BRRRR stands for buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat. The basic formula is this: buy a house that needs some improvement, renovate the home (to a scale you’re comfortable with), rent out the home to tenants now that it’s fixed up, and refinance it. Now that the property is worth more, you may be able to get the bank to pay YOU back your initial down payment and renovation costs due to the increase in equity. Then…repeat until you’re financially free. How do you pull off a BRRRR in 2025 with high interest rates, high home prices, and rising renovation costs? Dave and Leka are walking through their own BRRRR deals, showing you how to successfully BRRRR and do it without using ANY of your own money (seriously!). In This Episode We Cover: The BRRRR strategy explained and whether it still works in 2025 Leka’s BRRRR deals making her up to $600K! The best property types for BRRRRing to get more cash flow, higher appreciation, and bigger returns  How to use other people’s money (OPM) to fund your BRRRR investments  The “DADU” strategy that could skyrocket your home price with one savvy addition  And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Ask Your Question on the BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets YouTube Apply to Be a BiggerPockets Podcast Guest! Maximize Your Real Estate Investing with a Self-Directed IRA from Equity Trust Save $100 on Real Estate’s Biggest Event of the Year, BPCon2025 Grab the BRRRR Book Sign Up for the BiggerPocket Real Estate Newsletter Find Investor-Friendly Lenders What is the BRRRR Method & How to Use it to Invest in Real Estate Connect with Leka Connect with Dave (00:00) Intro (03:42) BRRRR Strategy Explained (05:38) How to Boost Home Value (08:47) BRRRRing with No Money (12:50) Using Other People’s Money (15:39) Refinancing Your BRRRR (18:39) Real 2025 BRRRR Examples (23:03) Best BRRRR Property Types (26:08) The Secret to Finding Deals Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1091 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Scaling from 0 to 30 Deals (While Working 9-5) and Starting with $0

  30 real estate deals in two years, starting with very little money, AND doing it all while working a nine-to-five? After listening to Tim Yu, you’ll have no excuse NOT to invest in real estate. He’s done it all: house hacking, creative financing, seller financing, lease-to-own, single-family, multifamily, house flipping, and everything in between to find the real estate investing tactic that worked best for his goals and his lifestyle. After trying (and failing) house flipping, Tim was ready to give up on real estate entirely. It wasn’t until a house hack (renting out other units/rooms in your home) gave Tim the cash flow he needed that he decided to give real estate another shot. From there, he spent hours calling owners after work, sweating bullets on cold calls, and refining his real estate skills. He’s been able to buy a house for truly ZERO dollars down, pick up profitable rental properties for as little as $3,000, and get seller financing terms that have made him six figures in just a year or so. Tim has tried every strategy, so you don’t have to, and if one of his tactics resonates with you, be like Tim and give it your all! In This Episode We Cover: The one loan that lets you buy your first property for ZERO dollars down How to get squatters out of your property (fast) with “cash for keys” Using seller financing to pick up real estate deals for just $3,000-$5,000 Tim’s personalized strategy for finding off-market deals and motivated sellers  The new type of rental property Tim is buying that makes $3,000+/month in cash flow  And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Ask Your Question on the BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets YouTube Apply to Be a BiggerPockets Podcast Guest! Get Fully Customizable Insurance Coverage for All Phases of Occupancy on One Monthly Schedule and Bill with NREIG Grab the Book on Creative Finance, “Wealth without Cash” Sign Up for the BiggerPocket Real Estate Newsletter Property Manager Finder 8 Rentals in UNDER 1 Year: A Rental Property Financing Masterclass Connect with Tim Connect with Dave (00:00) Intro (01:43) BAD First Real Estate Deal (05:51) $0 Down Cash-Flowing Rental (09:24) Seller Financing with LITTLE Money (14:49) Finding Off-Market Deals (24:08) Moving Markets (31:38) New Type of Rentals? Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1090 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• How I Turned $9,000 into My Dream Home By "Level-Up" Investing

  Can you afford your “dream house” right now? The one with the pool and the ocean views, space for the kids to run around, and a huge pantry. The secret nobody will tell you: you CAN afford your dream house right now—or at least you can afford the investment that will get you there. Just ask James Dainard, who took a $175,000 hoarder condo and turned it into what would eventually become his $8,500,000 dream house. You can do the same using his level-up strategy. James only started with $9,000, which turned into multiple millions over the next fifteen years. He would buy a house, fix it, and trade it up for a better one, repeating this strategy five times until he reached the goal: a 9,000-square-foot luxury home in one of the priciest markets in America, Scottsdale, Arizona. He made millions of dollars completely tax-free because of this live-in flip strategy that ANYONE can use to massively multiply their wealth and take them to their dream home. And maybe you don’t want an $8,500,000 mansion—that’s fine! It only took James three house flips to get into “dream home territory,” and you can do the same! In This Episode We Cover: How to use the live-in flip strategy to make tax-free millions and buy your dream home Why buying the worst house in the best neighborhood can make you rich  Why your primary residence IS an investment…if you use it the right way  The real estate tax cheat code that lets homeowners make $500K in tax-free profits  How to renovate a home even if you have zero flipping or construction experience  Why it’s crucial to find a spouse who’s DTF (down to flip) And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Ask Your Question on the BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets YouTube Apply to Be a Podcast Guest James’ Live-in Flip Story! Watch the Trailer for Million Dollar Zombie Flips!  Try REsimpli, The Only All-In-One Real Estate Investor CRM Software That Helps You Manage Data, Marketing, Sales, and Operations Find Investor-friendly Tax and Financial Experts Grab James’ New Book, “The House Flipping Framework” Sign Up for the BiggerPocket Real Estate Newsletter Find Investor-Friendly Lenders Is a Live In Flip Right for You? Here’s How to Tell Connect with James Connect with Dave (00:00) Intro (03:57) Best Investment? YOUR House! (07:41) House 1 ($175K Condo) (12:05) Pay NO Taxes on Profit! (14:06) House 2 ($235K) (19:09) House 3 ($890K) (22:04) House 4 ($1.7M) (26:22) Making $1.2M on ONE House!? (28:10) House 5 ($8.5M Dream House!) (31:44) Tips for 1st Live-in Flip Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1089 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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