Leadership and Innovation Unlocked

• The $140K poverty line, women Lean Out, and 2026 essential skills for leaders with Michele Kawamoto Perry

  Michele Kawamoto Perry of the Forward Project, joins Nadia and Rob to reflect on the year in leadership that was 2025 and to help us think about what will matter most in 2026. Nadia and Rob also check out an investment analysts' assessment that the federal poverty line should be $140K and discuss the latest McKinsey/Lean In survey on the state of women in the workplace. Later, the rare double rant Nadia rants SHRM's less than model employer behavior and Rob cheers on Costco.Articles referenced in the show:Poverty Line: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/12/03/poverty-line-140000-green-affordability-inflation/87573416007/Mckinsey/Lean in: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-12-09/why-are-women-leaning-out-of-workplace-advancement?utm_source=chatgpt.comConnect with Michele: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelekawamotoperry/⁠Learn more about The Forward Project: www.theforwardproject.coLearn more about Expressions of Leadership Podcast:https://www.linkedin.com/company/expressions-of-leadership-show/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/expressions-of-leadership/id1787230408https://open.spotify.com/show/47UGcBb1aMOBA4wqvIuZI0Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing  Connect with us: Visit http://www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy. Send us your thoughts or topic ideas at [email protected] Inclusive Collective LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/inclusivecollective/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@inclusivecollectivepodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inclusivecollectivepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InclusiveCollective/ Connect with Nadia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadianazbutt/ Connect with Rob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hadley-utah/

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• A conservative/liberal divide on kids vs. career, Campbell soup faces a crisis, and how to fix burnout at work with Dana Weekes

  Dana Weekes, host of The Rest of Us podcast, joins Nadia and Rob to help us see signs of burnout culture and to share strategies for leaders to help fix it. Nadia and Rob also reflect on a Wall Street Journal story about conservative women opting for kids earlier in their career and a Campbell's soup exec is recorded disparaging the company's customers and products. Later, the rare double rant! Nadia rants about the US Coast Guards tolerance of hate symbols and Rob points to the consequences for communities from the (not so) Beautiful Bill.Articles referenced in the show:https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/conservative-women-career-kids-bc3094f9?mod=careers_news_article_pos1https://www.wsj.com/sports/basketball/nico-harrison-dallas-mavericks-fired-https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/25/campbell-soup-executive-commentsConnect with Dana: Instagram: @danatenilleweekes; @therestofus.podcastLinkedIn: Dana T. WeekesThrive Architects - www.thethrivearch.com Listen to The Rest of Us with Dana Tenille WeekesFind season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing  Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy. Send us your thoughts or topic ideas at [email protected] Inclusive Collective LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/inclusivecollective/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@inclusivecollectivepodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inclusivecollectivepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InclusiveCollective/ Connect with Nadia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadianazbutt/ Connect with Rob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hadley-utah/

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• The AI leadership vacuum, an NBA exec gets canned, and how to make your employee engagement survey meaningful with Dr. Nicole Boyko

  Employee Experience expert Dr. Nicole Boyko joins Nadia and Rob to share how companies are working to understand belonging now, how she helps leaders see themselves in survey results, and why companies have to listen to employees continuously. Nadia and Rob also break down a Mercer report on how leaders are missing the mark in AI communications and highlight an NBA executive's risky move that ended in disaster. Later, Nadia rants about the darker side of the rhetoric around Zohran Mamdani's election victory, and Rob sends Veteran's Day best wishes.Articles referenced in the show:https://www.hrdive.com/news/leadership-vacuum-prompts-ai-anxiety-at-work/805113/https://www.wsj.com/sports/basketball/nico-harrison-dallas-mavericks-fired-luka-doncic-trade-ea81e8e7?mod=sports_lead_pos2Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing  Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy.

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• SHRM gets raw and human-centered leadership with Dr. Golnaz Golnaraghi

  Dr. Golnaz Golnaraghi joins Nadia and Rob to talk about why trust is the new ROI, the importance of listening, and why command leadership can't drive innovation. Also, Nadia and Rob break down SHRM's "Listening Across Lines" DEI debate between Van Jones and Robby Starbuck. Plus Rob rants about and Nadia raves about... Learn more about the topics discussed in the episode today: SHRM Conversation: https://www.linkedin.com/events/shrmblueprint-leadingacrossline7386401327033102336/ Connect with Dr. Golnaz Golnaraghi:https://golnazgolnaraghi.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/ggolnaraghi/Learn more about Accelerate Her Future:https://accelerateherfuture.com/https://www.linkedin.com/company/accelerate-her-future/Find season 5 episode transcripts here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bP3N6QYBG0UkzdRm5GwiFfoQLvGtIRrK?usp=sharing  Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy. Send us your thoughts or topic ideas at [email protected] Inclusive Collective LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/inclusivecollective/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@inclusivecollectivepodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inclusivecollectivepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InclusiveCollective/ Connect with Nadia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadianazbutt/ Connect with Rob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hadley-utah/

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• Season Premiere: We’re Back! Exploring the Workplace in 2025 with Rob & Nadia

  The Inclusive Collective team returns to bring you Season 5: Leadership & Innovation Unlocked! ⁠Dr. Nadia Butt⁠ and ⁠Rob Hadley⁠ are back with fresh takes on what’s shaping the modern workplace.  This week, ⁠Google tightens remote work policies⁠ and ⁠Toyota brings childcare to rural Iowa⁠. They'll also answer listener questions about generational divides at work, navigating uncertainty, and how to assess and drive accountability. Find season 5 episode transcripts here Connect with us: Visit www.nazconsultants.com to learn more about Dr. Nadia Butt’s work in leadership, culture, and organizational effectiveness, and check out http://www.tekanoconsulting.com/ to explore Rob Hadley’s approach to data-driven inclusive strategy. Send us your thoughts or topic ideas at [email protected] Inclusive Collective: ⁠LinkedIn⁠, ⁠YouTube⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠, and ⁠Facebook⁠

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