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The Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast

Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir
The Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast
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    Fantasize About Pop-Tarts

    2026-07-17 | 37 mins.
    In Episode 72, co-hosts Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir dive into the psychology of workplace productivity by unpacking Parkinson’s Law – the famous adage that work expands to fill the time allocated for its completion. Trading witty banter about childhood Trapper Keepers and questionable snack choices, the duo dissects how this law manifests in organizations, particularly through "artificial busyness" and bureaucratic bloat (illustrated by the humorous trap of managers hiring multiple assistants who simply create more work for one another). To combat this, they connect Parkinson's Law to the Law of Triviality (where committees obsess over minor details they all understand) and the Pareto Principle (the 80/20 rule), offering actionable leadership strategies to trim the fat. Ultimately, they argue that modern leaders should use constraint as a tool for impact – recommending shorter deadlines, breaking large projects into bite-sized milestones, replacing hour-long calendar blocks with highly structured 15-minute syncs, and focusing strictly on outcomes rather than the illusion of being busy.
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    Evolution of Leadership

    2026-07-03 | 42 mins.
    In Episode 71 of the Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast, Kristem and Sylvia examine the historical shifts in leadership theories. Using the context of the United States' 250th anniversary, the co-hosts debate whether leaders are born or made by tracing the evolution from the "Great Man" trait theory to modern behavioral and situational frameworks. Drawing from their extensive backgrounds in law enforcement, they challenge the "Peter Principle" and the corporate habit of promoting individuals solely based on technical test scores rather than human and conceptual competencies. Ultimately, Kristen & Sylvia emphasize that true, impactful leadership requires an agile, situationally fluid approach that bridges the vital gap between formal institutional authority and earned cultural legitimacy.
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    Intellectual Tramp Stamp

    2026-06-19 | 39 mins.
    In Episode 70 of the Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast, co-hosts and former police chiefs Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir take aim at the ubiquitous corporate advice to "always be yourself," arguing that modern notions of leadership authenticity have devolved into an oversold, diluted word salad. While acknowledging that vulnerability can build trust, they contend that unfiltered "authenticity" often serves as a convenient shield for poor behavior, self-indulgence, or a total lack of emotional regulation. Drawing from their own high-stakes law enforcement careers – including the distinct ways they maintained composure and managed teams during the intense pressures of the COVID-19 pandemic – Kristen & Sylvia assert that true leadership demands situational behavior and strict emotional control to protect the crew and serve the mission. Interspersing this heavy leadership critique with sharp wit, banter about a live tour, and a debate over getting matching ampersand tattoos, the hosts deliver a definitive bottom line for the modern leader: your core values must remain fixed, but your behavior and delivery must adapt to what the situation requires.
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    Flattery Will Get You Everywhere, But Should It?

    2026-06-05 | 42 mins.
    Episode 69 of the Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast features former police chiefs Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir diving into the complicated relationship between leadership, influence, and authenticity through the lens of Stanford professor Jeffrey Pfeffer’s book The Power Playbook. The conversation explores everything from executive presence and personal branding to networking and mentorship, while also challenging some of Pfeffer’s more controversial ideas about flattery, image, and apologies in leadership. Throughout the episode, Kristen and Sylvia wrestle with the tension between perception and substance, ultimately arguing that strong leadership is built on credibility, self-awareness, and the willingness to own mistakes while continuing to grow.
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    Shirts vs. Skins

    2026-05-24 | 44 mins.
    In Episode 68 of the Hollow Bunny Leadership podcast, "Shirts vs Skins," former police chiefs Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir dive into the ultimate trial of leadership: what to do when something goes wrong on your watch and the spotlight lands squarely on you. Rejecting the instinctual urge to protect the ego or retreat into "hollow" silence, they challenge leaders to face public scrutiny with thick skin and unshakeable character. Through a breakdown of their own decision-making frameworks – and a deep dive into an iconic pressroom scene from The American President – Kristen and Sylvia lay down a powerful blueprint for confronting accusations, distinguishing between mere noise and genuine accountability, and avoiding the trap of professional obfuscation. Tune in to learn how true leaders stop managing the damage and start leading the narrative with courage, truth, and decisive action.
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About The Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast
Some leaders are full of substance, and others are hollow bunnies. Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir have experienced both as they rose through the ranks to eventually become police chiefs in their respective departments. They’ll share what they’ve learned and talk with other industry leaders in conversations that will frequently devolve from focused to fun.
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