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• Lawrence Lam: ‘The Types of Companies That Attract Me Are Founder-Led and Profitable’

  Hi, and welcome to The Long View. I’m Dan Lefkovitz, strategist for Morningstar Indexes. Our guest this week is Lawrence Lam. Lawrence is managing director and founder of Lumenary Investment Management based in Melbourne, Australia, a firm that specializes in founder-led companies globally. Lawrence is also the author of a new book called The Founder Effect. Lawrence has also been an investment banker, a derivatives consultant, and a financial regulator. He holds degrees from the University of Melbourne and is a lifetime basketball player.BackgroundBioLumenary Investment ManagementThe Founder EffectFounder-Led Companies“Four Signs a Founder-Led Company Isn’t Worth the Hype,” by Lawrence Lam, afr.com, May 2, 2025.“Lessons From the Rise and Fall of Founder-Led Companies,” by Lawrence Lam, firstlinks.com, March 26, 2025.Founder-Led Companies Mentioned“Yvon Chouinard: The Founder of Patagonia,” by Charlie King, sustainabilitymag.com, Oct. 4, 2024.FUCHSFortinetHermesUniqloReplyFlight CentreCase StudyChemist WarehouseLe Specs“Chemist Warehouse Founder Reveals His Success Secrets,” by Lawrence Lam, Morningstar.com.au, May 30, 2023.Other“Social Loafing in Psychology: Definition, Examples & Theory,” by Riley Hoffman, simplypsychology.org, Sept. 7, 2023.Arista

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• The Biggest Risk Investors Face Today

  Today on The Long View, we’re featuring an episode from another Morningstar podcast, The Morning Filter, which you can subscribe to on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.Usually, Susan Dziubinski sits down every Monday morning with Morningstar’s chief U.S. market strategist Dave Sekera to talk about the week ahead.But we’ve got something a bit different for you on the podcast this week. Instead of our usual deep dive into the market and stocks, we’re taking a step back to look at the big picture of investing: things like how to build a smart portfolio, avoid common investment mistakes, and time-tested principles to invest by.Our special guest is Christine Benz. Christine is Morningstar’s director of personal finance and retirement planning. She’s also the host of The Long View podcast and author of the book How to Retire: 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful and Wealthy Retirement.  Episode highlights: What you need to know from stocks to bonds, and core investments to dividend payers Things you shouldn’t overlook in retirement and tips for setting yourself up for successIs “set it and forget it” a good way to invest in today’s market? Read about topics from this episode. Tune in to The Long View podcast.Access Christine Benz’s article and video archive on Morningstar.com.Order a copy of Christine’s book, How to Retire: 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful and Wealthy Retirement.Register for the 2025 Bogleheads Conference.Watch the How to Retire podcast, a companion podcast to the How to Retire book. Follow Dave on social media.Dave Sekera on X: @MstarMarketsDave Sekera on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davesekera

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• Nick Murray: ‘The Investor Is Hardwired to Be His Own Worst Enemy’

  Our guest on the podcast today is Nick Murray. Nick has written several influential books about investing and financial advice, including The Game of Numbers, Simple Wealth, Inevitable Wealth, and his latest, This Time Isn’t Different. His newsletter for financial advisors is called “Nick Murray Interactive,” and he also frequently leads seminars for financial advice professionals. Nick started out at EF Hutton, then moved on to Shearson and eventually to Bear Stearns. Since then, he has built his career around advising financial advisors.BackgroundAbout Nick MurrayNick Murray Interactive newslettersBooks and E-BooksThis Time Isn’t Different: Shockproofing Our ClientsThe Game of Numbers: Client Acquisition for Financial Advisors 2010Simple Wealth, Inevitable WealthNick Murray’s Scripts: What to Say and How to Say ItBehavioral Investment CounselingTalking It Over, Just The Two Of Us: A Guide for the Financial Advisor’s Life Partner with Joan MurrayAround the Year with Nick Murray: Daily Readings for Financial AdvisorsPodcasts and More“Financial Advisor Nick Murray,” Bloomberg Masters in Business podcast by Barry Ritholtz, Aug. 7, 2015“The Man Who Saved My Career: How Nick Murray came along and showed me my true purpose in this business,” by Josh Brown, downtownjoshbrown.com, May 21, 2024“The Value Proposition of a Financial Advisor With Nick Murray,” The Unlock podcast, May 21, 2024“The Golden Door For Financial Advice With Nick Murray,” The Unlock podcast, May 31, 2024“My Financial Planning Heroes: Nick Murray,” by Juniper team, juniperwealth.co.uk/blog, Jan. 1, 2025“Nick Murray’s Hard Truths for Advisors” by Jane Wollman Rusoff, thinkadvisor.com, March 5, 2015“Lessons Learned From the Legendary Financial Advisor Nick Murray,” Think Smart With TMFG podcast, Oct. 14, 2022“Murray: Financial Healing,” Consuelo Mack Wealthtrack, May 6, 2016

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• Charley Ellis: Indexing Is a Marvelous Gift

  BackgroundBio“Charley Ellis: Why Active Investing Is Still a Loser’s Game,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 27, 2020.Rethinking Investing: A Very Short Guide to Very Long-Term InvestingWinning the Loser’s Game: Timeless Strategies for Successful InvestingIndex Investing and ETFs“Stock Pickers Are on a Record Run With Investors. Don’t Be Fooled, Says Index Fund Guru,” by Jason Gewirtz, cnbc.com, Feb. 14, 2025.“Investment Costs Make a Huge Difference,” by Robin Powell, ifa.com, Feb. 17, 2025.ETF Edge interview with Charley Ellis, cnbctv, Feb. 10, 2025.OtherRegulation Fair DisclosureAlfred MarshallThinking, Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman

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• Cliff Asness: ‘The Problem Was Never Beta. The Problem Was Paying Alpha Fees for Beta’

  Today on the podcast we welcome back Cliff Asness. Cliff is the founder, managing principal, and chief investment officer at AQR Capital Management. Cliff writes often about investing and financial matters on AQR’s website and has been a prolific researcher throughout his career, with his contributions appearing in many of the leading scholarly journals, including the Journal of Portfolio Management, Financial Analyst’s Journal, the Journal of Finance, and the Journal of Financial Economics. Before co-founding AQR, Cliff was a managing director and director of quantitative research for the asset management division of Goldman Sachs. Cliff Asness, welcome back to The Long View.BackgroundBio@CliffordAsness“Cliff Asness: Value Stocks Still Look Like a Bargain,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 31, 2022.Macro Forecast, Market-Timing, and Equities“2035: An Allocator Looks Back Over the Last 10 Years,” by Cliff Asness, aqr.com, Jan. 2, 2025.“(So) What If You Miss the Market’s N Best Days?” by Cliff Asness, aqr.com, June 5, 2025.“Why Not 100% Equities,” by Cliff Asness, aqr.com, Feb. 12, 2024.“Exceptional Expectations: US vs. Non-US Equities,” by Antti Ilmanen and Thomas Maloney, aqr.com, Q2 2025.Alternative Assets and Artificial Intelligence“In Praise of High-Volatility Alternatives,” by Cliff Asness, aqr.com, Sept. 4. 2024.“Should Hedge Funds Hedge?: Why Some Alts Should Have a Beta of 1.0,” by Cliff Asness, aqr.com, March 28, 2025.“We Have ‘Surrendered More to the Machines,’ Says Quant Fund Titan Cliff Asness,” by Costas Mourselas and Amelia Pollard, ft.com, June 3, 2025.“CIO Perspectives: An Interview With Cliff Asness,” aqr.com, Sept. 1, 2024.OtherWisdomTree“AQR Launches the AQR Fusion Mutual Fund Series,” AQR Funds News, aqr.com, June 25, 2025.Asian Financial Crisis

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