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Okay, But... Birds

Dr. Scott Taylor
Okay, But... Birds
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  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but can birds smell?

    2026-05-07 | 34 mins.
    E21. We're talking sense and scents with Dr. Danielle Whittaker, Oregon State, and author of The Secret Perfume of Birds, who spent a decade unraveling a 200-year-old myth that started with John James Audubon and a dead pig under a bush.
    In this episode:
    The bird that smells like a fresh-baked sugar cookie
    Why preen oil is a dating profile written in chemistry, and how seabirds use the same chemical cue that's now leading albatross parents to feed their chicks plastic
    The bonus myth Danielle wants gone

    New here? Listen, follow, and tell a friend who still thinks birds can't smell.
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Brown-headed Cowbird audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94262
    Dark-eyed Junco audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94361
    Red Knot audio contributed by Lucas DeCicco, ML516895
    Crested Auklet audio contributed by Sampath Seneviratne, ML132014
    Laysan Albatross audio contributed by Ted Miller, ML117679
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but what can we learn from a drawer of birds?

    2026-04-23 | 35 mins.
    E20. Less than 1% of what's in a museum is actually on display. So what's happening with the other 99%? Scott talks with Dr. Sushma Reddy, Breckenridge Chair of Ornithology at the Bell Museum and Associate Professor at the University of Minnesota, about the extraordinary scientific afterlife of a specimen in a drawer.
    In this episode:
    How birds collected 150 years ago are answering questions their collectors never imagined, from air pollution to insect decline
    Why falcons turned out to be closer to parrots than hawks, and what other surprises fell out of the bird family tree
    The case for making museum collections more open, especially to scientists from the places these specimens originally came from

    If you have a few seconds, please follow, rate, and leave a review for the show. It makes a huge difference in helping others discover it. Thanks for listening!
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Bald eagle sound contributed by Gerrit Vyn, ML 200943
    Red-tailed hawk sound contributed by David McCartt, ML 229578
    Gyrfalcon sound contributed by Lucas DeCicco, ML 516973
    Kea sound contributed by William V. Ward, ML 8523
    Small ground finch sound contributed by Robert I. Bowman, ML 86711
    Iiwi sound contributed by Doug Pratt, ML 5888
    Sickle-billed vanga sound contributed by Anonymous, ML 100013
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but are bird feeders helping or hurting?

    2026-04-16 | 32 mins.
    E19. More than 55 million Americans feed birds, and it's not exactly clear the birds asked us to. Dr. Olivia Sanderfoot, Research Scientist and Project Leader of FeederWatch at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, joins Scott to unpack what four decades of data tell us about whether feeding birds helps them, hurts them, or is really just for us.
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    Why bird feeding is mostly for us, and the handful of moments when it actually tips the scales for birds
    What forty years of FeederWatch data reveal about shifting ranges, feeder dominance, and the bird that definitely should not be bossing everyone around
    How to keep your yard from becoming an ecological trap, plus the best way to feed birds that doesn't involve a feeder at all

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    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    European robin audio contributed by Matthew D. Medler, ML140049
    Cooper's hawk audio contributed by Wil Hershberger, ML94518
    American crow video contributed by Jay McGowan, ML472843
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but what's in a bird's toolbox?

    2026-04-09 | 32 mins.
    E18. Turns out "bird brain" is less of an insult and more of a compliment. Scott sits down with Dr. Alex Kacelnik, Emeritus Professor at the University of Oxford, to dig into one of the most mind-bending questions in animal behavior: are birds actually building and using tools, or are we just projecting?
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    The experiment that left researchers completely flabbergasted and rewrote what we thought we knew about animal intelligence
    Why flexibility, not raw smarts, is the real test of a thinking mind
    Whether the drive to use tools is something birds are born with, learn, or some surprising combination of both

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Woodpecker Finch audio contributed by Robert Bowman, ML82522
    New Caledonian Crow audio contributed by Lucas DeCicco, ML188764
    Hawaiian Crow audio contributed by Tim Burr, ML218670
    Hawaiian Crow video contributed by Timothy Barksdale, ML425081
    Kea audio contributed by William V. Ward, ML8523
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but do birds have culture?

    2026-04-02 | 35 mins.
    E17. From sparrow songs that go viral across a continent to cockatoos that watch each other to learn how to open bins, Dr. Lucy Aplin, Australian National University / University of Zurich, studies how birds learn from each other and why it matters. Doing it for the culture? Yep. Birds are that impressive!
    In this episode you'll hear about:
    How a new white-throated sparrow song spread over 3,000 kilometers in just two decades, replacing a tune that had been stable since the 1950s
    The experiment that proved wild great tits can establish lasting cultural traditions through their social networks
    Why losing a population of birds might also mean losing knowledge that took generations to build

    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Bird media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    White-throated Sparrow audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML219799
    White-throated Sparrow audio contributed by Jocelyn Lauzon, ML121581051
    Great Tit audio contributed by Arnoud B. van den Berg, ML36198
    Eurasian Sparrowhawk audio contributed by Ben F. King, ML335224
    Regent Honeyeater audio contributed by Vicki Powys, ML223277
    Pink-footed Goose audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML235508
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About Okay, But... Birds
Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world . No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.
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