Spirit Gym with Paul Chek

Your relationship with pain probably goes one of the two ways…
Most people take the conventional route and try to obliterate it with drugs and extreme treatments they may not need (that can hurt them even more than the pain itself). In many cases, their relationship with pain defines who they are.
Paul and senior CHEK instructor Leigh Brandon, author of Beyond the Pain: A Whole-Person Approach to Understanding Pain and Participating in Recovery, explore a very different and holistic relationship with pain, one that doesn’t treat it like an enemy but a vital source of information about your body this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Leigh and his work at his website. Find him on social media via Instagram, Twitter/X and TikTok. Check out Leigh’s podcast, Beyond the Pain, on YouTube, Apple Podcasts and wherever you listen to them. Read the first chapter of Beyond the Pain at this link.
For Spirit Gym listeners: Download Leigh’s paper, The Load Capacity Hierarchy Model of Chronic Pain: A Systems Based Framework for Understanding Pain and Guiding Clinical Practice, today!
Timestamps
4:54 Why Leigh felt compelled to write a book about pain.
6:46 More UK adults suffer from chronic pain than Americans, depending on the studies you read.
14:43 The double-whammy of taking a painkiller and medication for depression.
16:44 One of Leigh’s worst experiences with pain that took him 22 months to diagnose, treat and heal.
27:13 Do you have a pain identity?
31:39 Miasms (trapped emotions).
36:39 Why people treat pain as their enemy.
44:12 Treating fear as different emotions.
50:21 Proprioception.
1:03:30 Pain is far more diverse and complex than most people realize.
1:10:30 The four predominant causes of persistent pain that interact with each other, based on Leigh’s experience (structural, metabolic, nervous system regulation and emotional load).
1:15:08 People are so addicted to mobile phones, they use them in saunas!
1:22:40 Leigh narrows down his knee inflammation to eating porridge every morning for breakfast.
1:31:30 Viscerosomatic reflexes.
1:41:02 When we can make meaning and understand our pain, it raises our threshold and we are better able to live our lives.
1:54:23 Leigh’s six principles of recovery.
2:02:27 Pain exists as a vital path of communication and a safety valve that doesn’t always guarantee painful problems.
Resources
Anatomy of Sports Injuries for Fitness and Rehabilitation by Leigh Brandon
Anatomy for Strength and Fitness Training For Speed by Leigh Brandon 
Anatomy For Yoga For Posture and Health by Leigh Brandon
Eliminating Adult Acne for Good by Leigh Brandon
The Tennis Biomechanics Manual by Leigh Brandon and Paul Chek
MRSA infections
The CHEK Totem Pole
Wall & Melzak’s Textbook of Pain by Stephen B. McMahon, Martin Koltzdenburg, Irene Tracey and Dennis Turk
Novak Djokovic: The Wolf in Winter
The work of Dr. John Sarno and Mariano Rocabado
Paul’s podcast conversations with Danny Way, Dr. Ibrahim Karim, Doreya Karim and Angie Chek
The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life by Robert Becker and Gary Selden
How to Eat, Move and Be Healthy! 20th anniversary edition
Nonviolent Communication: The Basics As I Know and Use Them by Wayland Myers
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In his first conversation with Paul, Mark Wolynn shared his personal journey that led him to become a renowned authority on inherited trauma and write a best-selling book about it. 
Mark returns to talk about his recently revised landmark book, It Didn’t Start With You, and a new workbook that accompanies it and to describe how our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Mark and his Inherited Family Trauma Training Program and workshops along with booking a private session with him on his website. You’ll also find him on Facebook and Instagram. If you need help, contact Giovanna Taormina for a list of practitioners Mark has trained.
Timestamps
9:13 Despite writing a book on generational trauma, Mark’s work with clients mainly focuses on attachment trauma.
11:02 “Throw away the old book!”
18:45 While some pay attention to attachment styles, Mark looks at breaks between people and how they function.
25:27 Describing generational trauma.
32:00 The first case that taught Mark how to look for inherited family trauma and changed his life 30 years ago.
40:57 Where does this deeply traumatic information reside?
49:12 How our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations.
52:49 Mark describes the trauma experience from a spiritual perspective.
1:03:50 Mark’s psychotic break at age 24 was the beginning of his healing and how he began helping others.
1:08:45 Mark regains his eyesight after healing his trauma inherited from his mother and grandparents.
1:12:36 Paul’s inherited trauma.
1:24:27 How many generations of inherited trauma could humans carry?
1:32:19 “Our inhumanity toward others is often a mirror of our own inhumanity toward ourselves.”
1:42:04 Mark’s core sentence tool in action.
1:49:37 Positive traits can be transferred and inherited among generations too.
1:56:31 Examples of verbal and non-verbal trauma language.
2:01:31 Mark’s The Official It Didn’t Start With You Workbook is designed to be used whether you read his book or not.
2:13:16 Every day, take a few moments to pause and take inventory of what you’re feeling and, especially, the divine nature within you.
Resources
It Didn’t Start With You by Mark Wolynn
The Official It Didn’t Start With You Workbook by Mark Wolynn
Trichotillomania
The work of Bert Hellinger, Dr. Isabelle Mansuy and Dr. Rachel Yehuda
Paul’s podcast conversation with Diane Poole Heller
Morphic Resonance and Morphic Fields: An Introduction by Rupert Sheldrake
Healing With Haiku: A Poetic Exploration of Self by Anne Helfer
Brainstorm: The Power and Purpose of the Teenage Brain by Dr. Daniel Siegel
The Biology of Transcendence by Joseph Chilton Pearce
A Practical Guide to Vibrational Medicine: Energy Healing and Spiritual Transformation by Richard Gerber
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So many people and companies sell miracle products and supplements that claim to detox your body from the harm of everyday living that it’s really hard to know the difference between fact and fiction.

Certified Nutritionist, CHEK Faculty member and shamanic-trained coach and consultant, Angie Chek joins Paul to share their philosophies about safe detox protocols and explain why too much of a good thing can become a bad thing this week on Spirit Gym.
Find Angie online at angiesworld.com, where you can also book a free 15-minute consultation to learn more about working with her in person or virtually to discuss detox strategies or any health issues.
For Spirit Gym listeners: Check out the DesBio product line of supplements and detox products Angie talks about during the podcast at the DBscript website. To purchase products on the website, register at this link. Save 10 percent on any purchase you make on the website by using the promo code PAULCHEK10 at checkout.
Timestamps
3:23 Toxic statistics.
11:39 The detoxification process in your body.
19:19 Liposuction.
21:44 Organs that detoxify your body.
28:21 The relationship between your organs and emotions.
38:39 Your environment (indoor and outdoor) can be toxic too.
46:28 Are chloramines in your drinking water?
52:09 What’s really in your supplements?
1:00:07 The toxic chemicals hiding in plastic containers.
1:05:54 Pollution your body feels from light, noise, Wi-Fi routers and 5G towers (EMFs).
1:15:21 “What you put in your mouth you have full control over…”
1:30:02 Angie’s annual Christmas gift for Penny and Paul.
1:42:09 Nature as the ultimate detox.
1:52:01 Are you detoxing too much?
2:00:02 Try a 30-day social media detox.
2:05:11 BioGeometry.
Resources
Body for Life
How Emotions Are Made: The Secret Life of the Brain by Lisa Barrett
The Environmental Working Group’s (EWG) consumer guides
EWG’s full lists of the Clean 15 and Dirty Dozen foods
King Corn (movie)
Optimize: A Groundbreaking 7-Step Plan to Health and Longevity Through Quantum Biology by Dr. Catherine Clinton
The work of L. Ron Hubbard
The Safe Shoppers Bible by David Steinman and Samuel Epstein
Gynecomastia
Shungite
Demeter Association
Find A Spring
Thimerosal
Cellcore
Metagenics
Paul’s podcast conversations with Dr. Catherine Clinton, Doreya Karim, Jason Pickard, Sayer Ji, Wade Lightheart and Matt Gallant, Dr. Ibrahim Karim and Dr. Robert Gilbert
Farmers of Forty Centuries: Organic Farming in China, Korea and Japan by F.H. King
Switch: How to Change Things When Change is Hard by Chip and Dan Heath
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Most people believe in Jesus as a savior who shared parables, performed miracles and died for our sins during his brief life.
But is that really true?
For the longest time, Paul had tried to connect with Jesus yet came up empty until recently when his soul led him to Jesus, the man not of the Bible.
Paul and Sean O’Laoire examine the life of Jesus from very different and complementary perspectives that may encourage you to reconsider what you think about myth and the Bible this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Sean at his Spirits in Spacesuits website. Find him on social media via Facebook, Instagram and YouTube.
Timestamps
11:05 Epistemology, ontology and cosmology.
15:28 Was Jesus a product of Jesus mythicism (Christ myth theory)?
19:38 What modern historians DO agree on about the life of Jesus.
31:08 The difference between wisdom and knowledge.
34:56 Mythish: Sacred wisdom shared in story form.
40:20 The use of metaphor.
52:09 “When power becomes available, morality goes out the window.”
1:05:30 Prosopon.
1:17:27 A cohort of souls.
1:27:11 Sean is one of few people Paul thinks about the most, especially when he gets very irritated at Christianity.
1:38:13 Paul spent many years tracking Jesus and only experienced emptiness, until he recently connected with Jesus, the man not of the Bible.
1:42:54 What really happened to Jesus after the crucifixion.
1:45:35 What is evil?
1:46:34 Did Jesus practice a religion?
1:49:45 How Paul brought alchemy into his teachings.
1:54:16 Awe.
2:01:47 Why one minister taught kids at his church to fear God.
2:11:13 “We volunteer to be here right now.”
Resources
Setting God Free: Moving Beyond the Caricature We've Created in Our Own Image by Sean O’Laoire
Noosphere
Teleology
Dr. Walter Russell’s Home Study Course Third Edition (FREE PDF link)
The work of Bart Ehrman, Paramahansa Yogananda, Thomas Aquinas, Stanislav Grof and Elie Wiesel
Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility by James Carse
The Religious Case Against Belief by James Carse
Streams of Wisdom by Dustin DiPerna and Ken Wilbur
The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe by Jeremy Lent
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When people ask for your opinions about UFOs, are the little green men from The X-Files the first things that pop in your head?
Michael Jawer, author of the upcoming book What UFOs Really Are, believes we should be less focused on aliens flying in the sky and directing our attention on our inner selves and downward to living things anchored on the ground like plants, trees and fungi. 
Join Paul and Michael on a wide-ranging conversation that could make you look at reality in a brand-new way this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Michael’s work on his website and Linkedin.
Timestamps
2:20 Michael’s next book, What UFOs Really Are, coming out in December.
3:39 “My myth begins with emotion.”
13:51 Abnormalities like UFOs/UAPs (unidentified anomalous phenomena) are where enigmas often meet stigmas.
17:17 UAPs are forms of sentience, but not here to take over our planet.
26:59 Is lucid dreaming connected to remote viewing?
39:06 “The dimension that I'm most interested in is what's under the surface, or what we don’t see within our own unconsciousness.”
45:45 Is the unconscious poorly understood, incorrectly named or both?
58:00 Does an electron or atom feel like anything?
1:08:37 Michael is directing his attention inward and downward, rather than toward the skies.
1:13:50 C.H. Waddington’s concept of creodes.
1:21:27 UFOs and UAPs shake up our perceptions and invite us to consider viewing reality in different ways.
1:28:16 Paul’s question, What is on the sun?, is answered.
1:36:16 The ancient origins of AI.
1:46:06 “Humanity is in peril because we have archaic emotions, medieval institutions and god-like technology.”
1:48:56 John Lennon’s UFO sighting.
Resources
Michael’s recent appearance on New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove on YouTube
The Spiritual Anatomy of Emotion: How Feelings Link the Brain, the Body and the Sixth Sense by Michael Jawer and Dr. Marc Micozzi
Your Emotional Type: Key to the Therapies That Will Work For You by Michael Jawer and Dr. Marc Micozzi
Sensitive Soul: The Unseen Role of Emotion in Extraordinary States by Michael Jawer
Planta Sapiens: The New Science of Plant Intelligence by Paco Calvo and Natalie Lawrence
Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life by Dacher Keltner
The 2017 New York Times article about the Pentagon’s UFO program
A British military defense unit report on acquiring UFO tech from the Jerusalem Post
The Hidden Life of Trees and The Inner Life of Animals by Peter Wohlleben
The Future of Life by Edward O. Wilson
Disclosure Day (movie)
Arrival (movie)
The Soul of an Octopus by Sy Montgomery
After by Dr. Bruce Greyson
Rupert Sheldrake’s paper, Is the Sun Conscious?
Rupert Sheldrake’s banned TED talk on YouTube
The Trickster and the Paranormal by George Hansen
The Mystic Spiral: Journey of the Soul by Jill Purce
Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies by Carl Jung
Compendium of the Emerald Tablets by Billy Carson
The work of Ingo Swann, Barbara Hand Clow, Dr. Michael Levin, Steven Greer, Peter Godfrey-Smith, Jenny Randles and Jacques Vallée
Your Body is Your Subconscious Mind by Candace Pert
The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird
The Secret Life of Nature: Living in Harmony With The Hidden World of Nature Spirits From Fairies to Quarks by Peter Tompkins
The Unknown Spirit by Jean-Emile Charon
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