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Outlawed

Podcast Outlawed
Beverly Gray & Jonas Swartz
Most people in the US support abortion access, but having nuanced conversations about restrictions and bans can seem impossible. Join two OB-Gyns on the front l...

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  • Abortion On Call
    This week, due to the impact of the LA fires on our team, we are taking a brief pause from new content. In place of our regularly scheduled show, we want to share an episode from Finally! A Show About Women That Isn’t Just a Thinly Veiled Aspirational Nightmare. Finally! A show is an award-winning documentary podcast, brought to you by our own Jane Marie. It takes a deep dive into the lives of women living and working in the US. This particular episode won a Signal award for the Health and Wellness category and introduces us to Jamie Rich, a telehealth abortion care provider. For more information about how you can support those impacted by the LA fires, visit this site: https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/how-to-help-la-fire-victims
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  • Episode 7: Tension of Opposites
    One of the most contentious topics of the last election cycle was abortion later in pregnancy (often mislabeled as “late term abortion”). Anti-abortion activists and politicians promote heinous misinformation about this care. This includes false claims that abortion is being performed after birth, an inaccurate and manipulative description of palliative care for babies born with grave physical and/or genetic abnormalities. This episode confronts both of these topics head on as we talk with OB-Gyn expert Dr. Jenni Villavicencio. She walks us through why care later in pregnancy is necessary and how patients are making thoughtful decisions for themselves and their families. Jenni also talks about her transformation for anti-abortion protestor to abortion care provider. We also debunk myths about abortion after birth and talk about the realities of palliative care for infants with lethal birth defects. 
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  • Episode 6: Abortion School
    It’s time to go back to school and learn about the nuts and bolts of abortion care. In the first part of the episode, Bev and Jonas walk you through specifics about medication and procedural abortion and how patients might decide which option is best for them. The second part of our episode (starting at minute 18) is an interview with Dr. Diana Green Foster, highlighting some of the findings of the Turnaway Study. We discuss the devastating impacts of being turned away from abortion care. Of note, this episode discusses rape and miscarriage. Find more information about this episode with additional links at outlawed.substack.com.Watch the full lecture at : https://youtu.be/syyUFYZ04rE?si=WcyIsaMR261RM48F
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  • Episode 5: Bravery Required
    In this episode you will meet Dr. Caitlin Bernard from Indiana, an amazing physician advocate and complex family planning expert. She provided abortion care for a 10 year-old rape victim in Indiana and was the center of a media and legal firestorm. In the face of unjust laws, she is just trying to do her job and take good care of her patients. We will hear her story and think through the implications of making expert clinicians outlaws. 
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  • Episode 4: Abortion Hollers
    In this episode we discuss who has access to abortion care and dispel some of the myths about who seeks care in the US. We hear from two reproductive justice advocates, Maya Hart and Ash Williams, about centering access in the conversation. You’ll learn how centering the most historically marginalized patients improves care for everyone. 
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About Outlawed

Most people in the US support abortion access, but having nuanced conversations about restrictions and bans can seem impossible. Join two OB-Gyns on the front lines of abortion care as they make sense of the ever-evolving consequences of our government ceding the expert decision-making power of medical professionals to lawyers and courts. Each short episode features stories and science from physicians, researchers, abortion-seekers and other expert witnesses to the impact on all of our lives. Whether you’re out drinking with the dudes, doing playground duty with other parents, or being stared down by Uncle Bob, we’ve got your back. Brought to you by Dr. Beverly Gray, Dr. Jonas Swartz and Jane Marie’s Little Everywhere.
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