543 episodes
- A 15-herb cleanse gives you only about 30 to 50 mg of each herb, and a lot of people feel worse on it. Dr. Chris Motley sits down with Drs. Michael and Noah Lebowitz to talk about total load, why chasing one infection misses the rest, the milk thistle mycotoxin problem, and what “other ingredients” on a label really means. They also cover what’s on your organic produce, including a 2026 Texas settlement with Sprouts.
Sources are in the show notes.
Disclosure: The guests own Supreme Nutrition Products, and Dr. Motley earns an affiliate commission on it. Educational only, not medical advice.
00:00 Why a cleanse can make you feel worse
00:41 Welcome
00:52 Symptoms the labs can't explain
02:00 Disclosure: Supreme Nutrition and my affiliate code
02:45 What is total load?
03:58 Your body is a soup
05:01 Metals first? Parasites first? Why they don't prioritize
05:36 Twenty things wrong at the first visit
07:04 Do microbes make you sensitive to foods?
07:49 Reintroducing foods, then and now
08:42 Glyphosate, atrazine and the pesticide load
10:10 Organic cotton beach towels
10:58 When certified organic failed the tests
11:32 Copper on organic grapes, and the Sprouts settlement
12:14 Can herbs be contaminated too?
12:54 Wild-harvested isn't unsprayed
13:45 Store-bought detoxes and the milk thistle problem
15:22 Single herbs versus 15-ingredient formulas
17:21 The capsule math
17:41 Muscle testing and road trips to Klamath Lake
19:12 Muscle testing versus labs
19:43 Same moldy room, two different bodies
20:40 Do nutrient levels fix themselves?
21:12 Six brands of vitamin D
22:46 Fillers and what magnesium stearate is for
23:37 Read the other ingredients
24:19 Tinctures, glandulars and "grass-fed"
25:21 Plant protein versus animal protein
26:02 Adventists, Okinawa and your ancestry
28:07 Is your mouth feeding the rest of your body?
29:24 Cavitations: rarely the life changer
29:46 Thyroid, infections and nightshades
31:15 Disclaimer
Want more of The Ancient Health Podcast? Subscribe to the YouTube channel.
Follow Doctor Motley!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctormotley
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doctormotley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctormotley/
Website: https://doctormotley.com
Follow Dr. Noah:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr_noahdc/
Follow Dr. Michael:
Website: https://michaellebowitzdc.com/
Check out their herbal products:
https://shop.supremenutritionproduct.com/
https://www.instagram.com/supremenutritionproducts/
Go deep on the Supreme Nutrition Products YouTube channel for more valuable insights: https://shorturl.at/vw8Kl
Sources are in the show notes.
Disclosure: The guests own Supreme Nutrition Products, and Dr. Motley earns an affiliate commission on it. This episode is for educational purposes only and is not medical advice.
00:00 Why a cleanse can make you feel worse
00:41 Welcome
00:52 Symptoms the labs can't explain
02:00 Disclosure: Supreme Nutrition and my affiliate code
02:45 What is total load?
03:58 Your body is a soup
05:01 Metals first? Parasites first? Why they don't prioritize
05:36 Twenty things wrong at the first visit
07:04 Do microbes make you sensitive to foods?
07:49 Reintroducing foods, then and now
08:42 Glyphosate, atrazine and the pesticide load
10:10 Organic cotton beach towels
10:58 When certified organic failed the tests
11:32 Copper on organic grapes, and the Sprouts settlement
12:14 Can herbs be contaminated too?
12:54 Wild-harvested isn't unsprayed
13:45 Store-bought detoxes and the milk thistle problem
15:22 Single herbs versus 15-ingredient formulas
17:21 The capsule math
17:41 Muscle testing and road trips to Klamath Lake
19:12 Muscle testing versus labs
19:43 Same moldy room, two different bodies
20:40 Do nutrient levels fix themselves?
21:12 Six brands of vitamin D
22:46 Fillers and what magnesium stearate is for
23:37 Read the other ingredients
24:19 Tinctures, glandulars and "grass-fed"
25:21 Plant protein versus animal protein
26:02 Adventists, Okinawa and your ancestry
28:07 Is your mouth feeding the rest of your body?
29:24 Cavitations: rarely the life changer
29:46 Thyroid, infections and nightshades
31:15 Disclaimer
Want more of The Ancient Health Podcast? Subscribe to the YouTube channel.
Follow Doctor Motley!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctormotley
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doctormotley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctormotley/
Website: https://doctormotley.com
Follow Dr. Noah:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr_noahdc/
Follow Dr. Michael:
Website: https://michaellebowitzdc.com/
Check out their herbal products:
https://shop.supremenutritionproduct.com/?aff28
https://www.instagram.com/supremenutritionproducts/
Go deep on the Supreme Nutrition Products YouTube channel for more valuable insights: https://shorturl.at/vw8Kl
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Spinning attacks, a full ear, a roar you can’t shut off: that’s the classic Ménière’s picture. But a migraine that never causes a headache can mimic it almost exactly. Dr. Chris Motley explains the one test that tells them apart (the audiogram), why every Ménière’s treatment seems to work (in the biggest drug trial, the placebo group got better too), what Chinese medicine wrote about the spinning room 1,800 years ago, and four steps to take before anyone treats your ear. Sources are in the show notes. Educational only, not medical advice.
0:00 The spinning room: is it really Ménière's?
1:03 Welcome to the Ancient Health Podcast
1:16 What a definite Ménière's diagnosis requires
3:00 Vestibular migraine: the condition that mimics it
4:05 The one test that tells them apart: the audiogram
4:32 Why the right label matters before treating the ear
6:53 Why every treatment seems to work
7:56 The betahistine trial: the placebo group got better too
10:00 A crack in the fluid-pressure theory
11:20 What happens when Ménière's comes into my office
12:24 A patient story: vertigo, tinnitus, and afternoon fatigue
13:50 The kidney meridian and the 3 to 5 p.m. window
15:35 Tongue, pulse, and EAV testing
18:20 The urinalysis and the audiologist's results
21:03 Chinese medicine, the spleen, kidneys, and fluid
23:15 Supporting the spleen, kidneys, and lymph
24:58 Homeopathic remedies for vertigo
26:52 Herbs for the kidneys: uva ursi and chanca piedra
27:55 Supplements for the spleen
30:06 Four steps to take this week
31:32 Closing thoughts
32:34 Disclaimer
Supplements Dr. Motley recommends:
SPLEEN
Spleeno-Lyph by Nutri-West
Spleen PMG by Standard Process: https://us.fullscript.com/welcome/doctormotley/signup
Albizia Supreme by Supreme Nutrition: https://shop.supremenutritionproducts.com/?aff=28
KIDNEY
Uva Ursi by Supreme Nutrition: https://shop.supremenutritionproducts.com/?aff=28
Body Guard by Supreme Nutrition: https://shop.supremenutritionproducts.com/?aff=28
Cranberry
UT Vibrance
Homeopathics that help with vertigo:
DesBio "Dizzy": https://dbscript.com/?direct=drmotley
Professional Formulas "Vertigo Syncope": https://professionalformulas.com/patientcode/?doctorname=Christopher&doctor_code=GXN776D
Vertigoheel
Standard Process Spleen PMG: https://us.fullscript.com/welcome/doctormotley/signup
The common four herbs that help with vertigo:
Cocculus
Conium
Theridion
Ambra
Want more of The Ancient Health Podcast? Subscribe to the YouTube channel.
Follow Doctor Motley!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctormotley
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doctormotley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctormotley/
Website: https://doctormotley.com
*Join Doctor Motley’s newsletter for TCM insights and regular podcast updates https://www.doctormotley.com/
*Do you have a ton more in-depth questions for Doctor Motley? Check out his course on emotions and the body in his membership. You’ll find other courses full of his expertise and clinical wisdom, plus bring all your questions to his weekly lives! To try risk-free for 15 days click here https://www.doctormotley.com/15
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - The viral fungus numbers are real: about 7,300 deaths and 130,000 hospitalizations a year, per the CDC. But those figures count fungal infections, not the mold behind your shower. Dr. Chris Motley explains what damp buildings probably do to health (asthma, wheeze, cough, respiratory infections), why a urine mycotoxin test can't tell you if your home is making you sick, how Chinese Medicine describes "dampness," and the step that matters most: find the water.
Sources below. Educational only, not medical advice.
Mold Testing:
ImmunoLytics: https://immunolytics.com/?wpam_id=474
Want more of The Ancient Health Podcast? Subscribe to the YouTube channel.
Follow Doctor Motley!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctormotley
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doctormotley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctormotley/
Website: https://doctormotley.com
*Join Doctor Motley’s newsletter for TCM insights and regular podcast updates https://www.doctormotley.com/
*Do you have a ton more in-depth questions for Doctor Motley? Check out his course on emotions and the body in his membership. You’ll find other courses full of his expertise and clinical wisdom, plus bring all your questions to his weekly lives! To try risk-free for 15 days click here https://www.doctormotley.com/15
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Tight jaw, shoulders up by your ears, waking at 3 a.m.? Somatic movement teacher Liz Tenuto, author of When the Body Speaks, joins Dr. Chris Motley to explore where the body holds stress, why she favors tiny, lazy movements over force, why animals shake it off, and how to recognize when you’re still bracing. Dr. Motley adds the Chinese Medicine perspective on the jaw and waking at 3 a.m.
Sources and corrections are included in the show notes.
Content note: This episode discusses trauma, emotional healing, and the mind-body connection. Take care while listening, and feel free to pause or skip around if you need to.
Educational only, not medical advice.
Chapters:
00:00 Cold open: where your body holds stress
00:44 Welcome: Liz Tenuto, somatic movement teacher
02:45 Ten years without sleep, and everything she tried
03:51 "People rolling around on the floor in their pajamas"
04:47 Inside a somatic class: the laziest movements possible
05:52 From workhorse to gentle, and what surfaced
07:06 A dancer, disconnected from her emotional body
08:45 Does the body remember?
11:55 Dance, EMDR, and life before The Body Keeps the Score
13:23 Is fascia a highway for emotion?
15:00 Shoulders at her ears, and the saran wrap picture
16:58 Tiny lazy movements and new pathways
18:30 Calm, wired, or shut down: the "Goldilocks" state
19:41 Why people keep going back to the chiropractor
20:46 Calm takes reps
22:09 How your body learns tension
25:02 Can a stuck joint slow your lymph?
26:17 Dr. Motley's method: meridians, muscles, and the liver
30:17 An old basketball injury and three months of brain fog
33:10 How Liz starts with a new client
34:41 Why animals shake it off
38:04 Where your body holds stress: hips, shoulders, neck, jaw
39:48 Jaw tension, TMJ, and the Gallbladder channel
41:17 How long does it take?
42:29 Why forcing a release backfires
44:37 Why Dr. Motley tells patients a year
45:31 Signs you're storing stress
46:40 3 a.m., your lungs, and the Chinese medicine clock
47:35 What letting go feels like
49:24 Where to find Liz
50:50 Closing thoughts
52:09 Disclaimer
Want more of The Ancient Health Podcast? Subscribe to the YouTube channel.
Follow Doctor Motley!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctormotley
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doctormotley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctormotley/
Website: https://doctormotley.com
Follow Liz Tenuto:
Website: https://theworkoutwitch.com/
YouTube: theworkoutwitch.com/s/youtube
Instagram: theworkoutwitch.com/s/instagram
Book:
https://theworkoutwitch.com/pages/book
*Join Doctor Motley’s newsletter for TCM insights and regular podcast updates https://www.doctormotley.com/
*Do you have a ton more in-depth questions for Doctor Motley? Check out his course on emotions and the body in his membership. You’ll find other courses full of his expertise and clinical wisdom, plus bring all your questions to his weekly lives! To try risk-free for 15 days click here https://www.doctormotley.com/15
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Tired, losing hair, and told your labs are “normal”? Endocrinologist Dr. Cassie Smith explains the new 2026 American Society of Hematology ferritin thresholds, why your thyroid needs iron, the pregnancy thyroid rule every woman on thyroid medication should know, the gut signs you may be ignoring, and her honest take on GLP-1 drugs. With Dr. Chris Motley.
00:00 Dr. Cassie Smith is back
01:08 Graves' disease in med school, at 130 beats a minute
02:38 "Normal" labs, and the fertility questions you sent in
03:33 Why fertility starts in the gut, and PCOS gets a new name
04:30 What birth control does to your gut bacteria
06:21 Thyroid, nutrients, and early miscarriage
07:07 Why your TSH drops when you get pregnant
08:13 On thyroid medicine? The nine-dose rule
09:07 Which probiotic? The Akkermansia gap
10:58 After a miscarriage: the labs to ask for
13:02 Thinning hair and the new ferritin guidelines
14:58 A tongue and pulse read, and a ferritin result
17:24 Gut warning signs: bloating, reflux, gas
18:38 Acne, rashes, and swollen joints
19:57 Depression and anxiety after a baby
20:39 Can you inherit a bad gut?
21:56 Glutamine, butyrate, and the scab rule
24:42 Fiber, and the free fixes nobody can sell you
26:34 Gluten, Roundup, and your thyroid
28:53 GLP-1s: an endocrinologist's honest take
30:42 Insulin as traffic cop
32:27 Why kids stop eating when they're full
33:15 Using GLP-1s right: protein, water, weights, then stop
34:32 Where to find Dr. Smith
35:11 An endocrinologist who wants to learn acupuncture
37:50 Teeth, meridians, and infertility
39:38 Closing thoughts
41:28 Disclaimer
Sources are included in the show notes. Educational only - not medical advice.
Want more of The Ancient Health Podcast? Subscribe to the YouTube channel.
Follow Doctor Motley!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctormotley
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doctormotley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctormotley/
Website: https://doctormotley.com
Follow Dr. Cassie Smith:
https://www.instagram.com/modernendocrine_/
Buy her book Fix Your Gut, Fix Your Hormones: https://a.co/d/0gbCrVD6
*Join Doctor Motley’s newsletter for TCM insights and regular podcast updates https://www.doctormotley.com/
*Do you have a ton more in-depth questions for Doctor Motley? Check out his course on emotions and the body in his membership. You’ll find other courses full of his expertise and clinical wisdom, plus bring all your questions to his weekly lives! To try risk-free for 15 days click here https://www.doctormotley.com/15
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
More Alternative Health podcasts
Trending Alternative Health podcasts
About Ancient Health Podcast
Discover ancient solutions for modern health challenges. Join Dr. Chris Motley, expert in Traditional Chinese Medicine, frequency medicine specialist, and dedicated healthcare practitioner, as he breaks down real-life health issues with insight and approachability. Each week, discover simple, effective tools and techniques to elevate your health journey and pursue a vibrant life. Tune in every Tuesday and Friday for an East-meets-West approach to nurturing mind, body, and spirit.
Podcast websiteListen to Ancient Health Podcast, Sleep Magic: Sleep Hypnosis & Meditation for Sleep Podcast and many other podcasts from around the world with the radio.net app
Get the free radio.net app
- Stations and podcasts to bookmark
- Stream via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth
- Supports Carplay & Android Auto
- Many other app features
Get the free radio.net app
- Stations and podcasts to bookmark
- Stream via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth
- Supports Carplay & Android Auto
- Many other app features

Ancient Health Podcast
Scan code,
download the app,
start listening.
download the app,
start listening.
Ancient Health Podcast: Podcasts in Family












